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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
Yea the evo x is nice. Hell all evos are. Why not a new wrx tho? They are basically the same as the sti
Hate the hatchback's. Although the sedan ones are nice but so damn heavy. My favorite is the 04-07 STI's
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Hate the hatchback's. Although the sedan ones are nice but so damn heavy. My favorite is the 04-07 STI's
The sedans are only about 300lbs heavier than the cobalts.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
faster than wrx's? rlly?
As you can see its pretty close. The evo x is listed at around 300bhp & the wrx at around 265bhp. That isn't a 35hp race, the margin would be much bigger. I've been hearing that the wrx's are underrated. From a dig the margin is pretty much the same.

My bro & I sat and compare the two cars. As you can see, the evos turbo spools quicker than the wrx, he also has a higher rev limiter @7200 compared to the wrx 6500. Neither of us take it to redline, he said he takes his to about 6900-7000 & I take mine to about 6200-6300.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of the new evo x. I would rather get a evo 8 or 9 for half the price. I just think they look better too. The new Subaru wrx is nice my buddy just got a 2012 and he beat me by a car and a half but im stock.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blksscharged
I'm not a huge fan of the new evo x. I would rather get a evo 8 or 9 for half the price. I just think they look better too. The new Subaru wrx is nice my buddy just got a 2012 and he beat me by a car and a half but im stock.
Good luck with that. The 8s and 9s are still rather pricey given their popularity.

Nice run OP.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Good luck with that. The 8s and 9s are still rather pricey given their popularity.

Nice run OP.
Thanks.

I was going to say the same thing. The 8s and 9s are still expensive.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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Not around me. I've found three or four with under 50k for around 17000-22000. You just gotta know where to look lol.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blksscharged
Not around me. I've found three or four with under 50k for around 17000-22000. You just gotta know where to look lol.
Yea that's not the best deals. I got my car for 25 brand new.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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It's a good deal if you want one. 17000 is a damn good deal for a evo 8 or 9 when the new one is 30-40k. I guess it really depends on the person and how much someone is willing to pay.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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The video is small because my wife recorded it wrong, but the important part which is the race is viewable.
Mods are in the video.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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**** will smoke us I have a friend with 12 wrx cobb tuned , full exhaust n headers and idk what else making almost 4oohp


Sti's have too small of a turbo and too much dt loss to make that power on the stock turbo.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2291742

A wrx is not going to make anywhere near 400 on stock stuff

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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by turbosmart4
Haven't watched the vid cuz I'm mobile but those are my options for next year...evo being the first...wrx if I can't find a white X
Hope you like a Trunkless car , cant Even fit a dead body in Them x.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC


Sti's have too small of a turbo and too much dt loss to make that power on the stock turbo.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2291742

A wrx is not going to make anywhere near 400 on stock stuff
Actually you're wrong about the wrx's. the 08+ wrx's and sti's have the same turbos, just different flanges. The efficiency of the two are the same. They put down identical numbers. That post was a brief stage 2 which is an intake turbo back and an OTS tune. 339AWHP > 339 FWHP. That's at least a 12.7 pass in a quarter mile with bolt ons only.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
Actually you're wrong about the wrx's. the 08+ wrx's and sti's have the same turbos, just different flanges. The efficiency of the two are the same. They put down identical numbers. That post was a brief stage 2 which is an intake turbo back and an OTS tune. 339AWHP > 339 FWHP. That's at least a 12.7 pass in a quarter mile with bolt ons only.
How am i wrong? Thats NO WHERE NEAR 400 awhp......

And how is 339 awhp > 339 fwhp? Thats makes no sense at all.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
Actually you're wrong about the wrx's. the 08+ wrx's and sti's have the same turbos, just different flanges. The efficiency of the two are the same. They put down identical numbers. That post was a brief stage 2 which is an intake turbo back and an OTS tune. 339AWHP > 339 FWHP. That's at least a 12.7 pass in a quarter mile with bolt ons only.
you mean 09+ wrx has the same turbo as the sti. the 08 wrx had a smaller turbo than the sti
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC


Sti's have too small of a turbo and too much dt loss to make that power on the stock turbo.

Dyno Tune - 2012 STi Stage 2 - COBB AccessPort - NASIOC

A wrx is not going to make anywhere near 400 on stock stuff
I was just about to say the same thing
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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All the sti turbos (04-06) vf39, (07) vf43, (08-13) vf48 are the same turbo. The wrx came with a tdo4 (02-08) then in 09 they switched to the vf52 which is a very good turbo. Not the same turbo as the sti but a way better than the tdo4.

Really the biggest deal breaker between the two is the 6 speed tranny compared to the 5 speed. Although the 5 speeds are holding up better since 09ish they still blow often at 300ish plus. Not to many issues with the sti 6 speed.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
How am i wrong? Thats NO WHERE NEAR 400 awhp......

And how is 339 awhp > 339 fwhp? Thats makes no sense at all.
You're right it's no where near 400. My point is its bolt ons that got it to that point. This is with an OTS tune. You can get a few more ponies with a protune and other things.

As for 339AWHP > 339FWHP, we both know that if an awd vehicle has the same whp as an fwd that awd vehicle has more bhp. On a track 8/10 the awd vehicle would pull a better time; the fwd car would pull a better trap. We all know its hard for fwd to get off the line, thus making awd > fwd.

I'm not gonna argue tho. You either like the vid or you don't. That's what the thread is about.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by skatin_boarding
All the sti turbos (04-06) vf39, (07) vf43, (08-13) vf48 are the same turbo. The wrx came with a tdo4 (02-08) then in 09 they switched to the vf52 which is a very good turbo. Not the same turbo as the sti but a way better than the tdo4.

Really the biggest deal breaker between the two is the 6 speed tranny compared to the 5 speed. Although the 5 speeds are holding up better since 09ish they still blow often at 300ish plus. Not to many issues with the sti 6 speed.
They usually blow b/c guys launch the wrong way. The tranny goes seeing as they don't have transfer cases.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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Besides, of rwd, fwd, awd, I've owned all three and I must say awd is the most fun. So regardless of power; which is faster or slower, awd cars are extremely fun.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
You're right it's no where near 400. My point is its bolt ons that got it to that point. This is with an OTS tune. You can get a few more ponies with a protune and other things.

As for 339AWHP > 339FWHP, we both know that if an awd vehicle has the same whp as an fwd that awd vehicle has more bhp. On a track 8/10 the awd vehicle would pull a better time; the fwd car would pull a better trap. We all know its hard for fwd to get off the line, thus making awd > fwd.

I'm not gonna argue tho. You either like the vid or you don't. That's what the thread is about.
The kid said bolt ons and cobb made 400 whp. I said thats bs an wrx and sti both cant make that power on stock turbo even with bolt ons.

And 339 hp is 339 hp. Its a measurement of power, numbers. If the numbers are the same its relative. When did the different dt platforms come into play? If you want to play that game theoretically a 339 fwd car will pull a 339 awd car from a roll. Why? Because the fwd car will 8/10 weigh less than an awd car.

So if the fwd car is faster from a roll, and the awd car is faster from a dig, what 339 hp numbers are better then? See how what u said makes no sense.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
The kid said bolt ons and cobb made 400 whp. I said thats bs an wrx and sti both cant make that power on stock turbo even with bolt ons.

And 339 hp is 339 hp. Its a measurement of power, numbers. If the numbers are the same its relative. When did the different dt platforms come into play? If you want to play that game theoretically a 339 fwd car will pull a 339 awd car from a roll. Why? Because the fwd car will 8/10 weigh less than an awd car.

So if the fwd car is faster from a roll, and the awd car is faster from a dig, what 339 hp numbers are better then? See how what u said makes no sense.
My apologies I didn't know "the kid" said that about the numbers.

The 339 from a standstill (dig) is better. That's how real races start.
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Fwd just need better drivers to launch.
or get it in auto.
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