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New Product @ TTR - Turbo Tech Racing STOP Transmission Mounts!

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http://www.turbotechracing.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=5278

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What's the install like on these?



These have been track tested on many Cobalts already, ranging up to over 400+ HP! For references please let us know.

And could I get a little more info on this?

What's the install like on these?





And could I get a little more info on this?


Takes ~45 minutes to install both, comes with a color install guide/

It means we have these on many cobalts already, nation wide. Which many have been to the track already and tried this product. PM us if you would like references.

Looks good. I'll prob pick up a set when the 2.2 versions r released.

Why poly inserts?

We chose poly for one main reason, control of the movement. With the proper amount of bushing ratio, vibs can be minimized, by dampening the harmonic motions the engine produces. We tested these and the testers have found the ratio to be very approperate. These mounts are to be the complete package, including reducing engine movement, a contributor to wheel hop.

Looks good. I'll prob pick up a set when the 2.2 versions r released.

Hopefull spring time :) Takes months to desgin, test, and get ready for production.

great product, i got the ability to help install these before they were avalible to the public, there a great product and seem to be a great upgrade to just the standard poly inserts:o

We chose poly for one main reason, control of the movement. With the proper amount of bushing ratio, vibs can be minimized, by dampening the harmonic motions the engine produces. We tested these and the testers have found the ratio to be very approperate. These mounts are to be the complete package, including reducing engine movement, a contributor to wheel hop.



Hopefull spring time :) Takes months to desgin, test, and get ready for production.

thats awsome! definitly PM me when you need a tester:)

great product, i got the ability to help install these before they were avalible to the public, there a great product and seem to be a great upgrade to just the standard poly inserts:o


Thanks again for all your help during the testing process!

Another great product to the already extensive list available for cobalts. thanks again TTR!

Another great product to the already extensive list available for cobalts. thanks again TTR!

Thanks again for your continued support!

How long were they tested and in what settings (racing/street)? time/miles etc.

How long were they tested and in what settings (racing/street)? time/miles etc.

Been on cobalts for around 4 months... Street and drag. Once member should be posting a video of "lanuches" at various RPMs, showing no wheel hop :)

Any non-constructive posts/questions from here on will result in a 3 day suspension...

Aaron, these also rotate the engine/tranny correct? what is the degree of the rotation?
Great question!

It is not done on a degree of rotation.

It was done by properly re loacting the X and Y axis, of the mounting points, to have alignment of the axle.

We do not use the term "rotate". Rotation "degrees" is irrelevant, with this being stated.

I have these mounts already and they work very well. Shifting is more solid and no wheel hop.

Great question!

It is not done on a degree of rotation.

It was done by properly re loacting the X and Y axis, of the mounting points, to have alignment of the axle.

We do not use the term "rotate". Rotation "degrees" is irrelevant, with this being stated.

so these shift the location of the engine/tranny to align the axles straight up?

I have these mounts already and they work very well. Shifting is more solid and no wheel hop.

Installed pics please

Been on cobalts for around 4 months... Street and drag. Once member should be posting a video of "lanuches" at various RPMs, showing no wheel hop :)

I am mainly concerned about long term. I mean like thousands of miles, 10k+? Because there have been prior mounds, ie. ms3, using poly that couldnt hold up long term. They held for the testing period though.

Installed pics please

I can get some pics of these up tonite. They are amazing mounts. I haven't had a chance to get a full review up, but these are amazing, they work great with my s20g turbo. NO wheel hop.

What I noticed about these mounts the most, is that there is no slop at all. I poly inserts in my stock mounts, and they were sloppy. These are straight solid. There is no play a all.

so relocating of the mounts causes a ROTATION of the engine correct? yes or no

Yes, the engine will rotate. However! The rotation degree amount has NOTHING to do with the relocation of the mounts. It is just a side effect by shifting the mounting points of the mounts. You are dealing with different vetors here. It is the X and Y movement in the plane.

The purpose is the move the mounts orintation (X and Y) so the axle alignment is acheived. Rotation is irrelevant.

people are reachin hard.....



aaron. i saw u mentioned a 2.2 version. that includes 2.4s right? do u need the top mount if u get these?

So what measurement did you use to determine proper alignment of the axles?

A faro arm CMM.

I have these mounts already and they work very well. Shifting is more solid and no wheel hop.

Thanks again for being a tester!

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people are reachin hard.....



aaron. i saw u mentioned a 2.2 version. that includes 2.4s right? do u need the top mount if u get these?


What makes you think the axles are out of alignment on the F23 cars?

Installed pics please

I am sure one of the many testers would be proud to post up these pictures!

Go do your homework and find out, we did, and you can rent/use a $60,000 faro arm and take the measurements also.

whoa..... he was asking a legit question and you come back at him with that.... that's not nice :nono:

people are reachin hard.....



aaron. i saw u mentioned a 2.2 version. that includes 2.4s right? do u need the top mount if u get these?


No the top mount is not needed, it would be an upgrade :) 2.2L and 2.4L manual tranny should be the same, when we do it.

bump to my 2nd long term question.

bump to my 2nd long term question.

I have had poly trans mount inserts on my ion redline for over 15k and still are perfect.

i dont know if this has been answered but...... vibes..... how are they? i had your engine mount and tranny inserts (a while ago) and the vibes were no bueno.

You will have some vibs, but that is a BENIFIT of this mount. As it does not allow your engine to flop around, like the factory mounts do.

so having vibes is a benefit now? having the dash rattle like glassware in the cabinet during an earthquake isn't a benefit, it's annoyance.

where are the "testers"? i want them to answer the vibe question.

I have had poly trans mount inserts on my ion redline for over 15k and still are perfect.

inserts are completely different. They still rely on the stock mount. This is a full poly mount so its going to react differently.

Vibes are going to happen on any mount that is stiffer than the stock (which you are used too). That is one of the side effects of any replacement mount on any car.

To you maybe, but many others who care about total performance would disagree.

Testers have posted in this thread already, please take some time to read this thread, so we dont have double posts...

i see their posts, they've not answered the vibe question....

i do care about "total performance" and i feel that it doesn't have to come at the cost of the interior of my car falling apart. these aren't race cars. 90% of the people on here drive theirs cars daily and this would only be annoying.

Wrong, bushings are made independent of the mount. They are bushings that are pre pressed in the aluminum housing...

Wrong, you are posting about something else. ecotecturbo posted he had poly INSERTS. those install INTO the stock mount, hence why he said they were on his redline. Those are completely different than your full replacement mounts.

You didnt read my last post so I will repost. This is a serious question that I would ask of any vendor.

"I am mainly concerned about long term. I mean like thousands of miles, 10k+? Because there have been prior mounts, ie. ms3, using poly that couldnt hold up long term. They held for the testing period though."

i see their posts, they've not answered the vibe question....

i do care about "total performance" and i feel that it doesn't have to come at the cost of the interior of my car falling apart. these aren't race cars. 90% of the people on here drive theirs cars daily and this would only be annoying.

these are race cars. You are obviously not in their targeted market and these would not be for you at all. Either would any other replacement mount. You should be considering inserts at the most if your worst fear is vibes.

i see their posts, they've not answered the vibe question....

i do care about "total performance" and i feel that it doesn't have to come at the cost of the interior of my car falling apart. these aren't race cars. 90% of the people on here drive theirs cars daily and this would only be annoying.

That is your thoughts, each to their own. Many members want total performance, you choose not... Like we stated before, if you are actually interested in this product post, if not dont, and you are obviously not interested, and others are.

Wrong, you are posting about something else. ecotecturbo posted he had poly INSERTS. those install INTO the stock mount, hence why he said they were on his redline. Those are completely different than your full replacement mounts.

You didnt read my last post so I will repost. This is a serious question that I would ask of any vendor.

"I am mainly concerned about long term. I mean like thousands of miles, 10k+? Because there have been prior mounds, ie. ms3, using poly that couldnt hold up long term. They held for the testing period though."


these are race cars. You are obviously not in their targeted market and these would not be for you at all. Either would any other replacement mount. You should be considering inserts at the most if your worst fear is vibes.


Sorry about that...

We have tested enough to have out warranty stamp on the mount, any issues, we will take care of them :)

i'm trying to gain knowledge of the product. i like to know things so that when the local people i know that don't spend a bunch of time online or on this forum can come to me with questions. i like to be able to provide correct information.

Nice insult.

I said I was confused and needed a little clarification. Degrees of movement = rotation in my head.

because its like this outside of your head as well. as TTR says even a high school grad should know that. rewording something doesnt make it any different. i invented the intrasnet, not its not the internet, it does the same thing, looks and acts the same, but isnt.

I want to see these in person to judge the vibes. Poly mounts vibed a shitlaod, smaller bushing almost barely vibed. These are poly so IMO they would vibe a shitload too.

because its like this outside of your head as well. as TTR says even a high school grad should know that. rewording something doesnt make it any different. i invented the intrasnet, not its not the internet, it does the same thing, looks and acts the same, but isnt.

LOL thanks! :cssNET:

Lets see if I can help...I'm far from a biased person, if you really knew who i was, you would know.

If your worried about the quality of these mounts, don't be. They are very high quality.

I have a habit of street racing, and beating on my car. These mounts have held up so far, and done an outstanding jobl. I had my doubts with it being a new product, but i was definately impressed, especially because i had the tester product. TTR could not have done a better job with these mounts.

Some vibrations are normal with solid mounts. If you do the lower mounts, but not the top mount, you may have more vibration that you would if you have both, because the main vibration is focused on the one mount. I honestly dont really notice the vibrations that much.

These mounts prevent the motor from shifting. They are that solid. You can as soon as you go to install them, you will be able to see that they will be doing their job.

We have tested enough to have out warranty stamp on the mount, any issues, we will take care of them :)

how long is the warranty?

I want to see these in person to judge the vibes. Poly mounts vibed a shitlaod, smaller bushing almost barely vibed. These are poly so IMO they would vibe a shitload too.

Again, we are not claiming "no vibs", rigid mounts are needed to firm up the drivetrain, true performance members will want them, and wont care about this side effect. If you are not intereted becuase they have poly, it is YOUR choice, dont post.

Lets see if I can help...I'm far from a biased person, if you really knew who i was, you would know.

If your worried about the quality of these mounts, don't be. They are very high quality.

I have a habit of street racing, and beating on my car. These mounts have held up so far, and done an outstanding jobl. I had my doubts with it being a new product, but i was definately impressed, especially because i had the tester product. TTR could not have done a better job with these mounts.

Some vibrations are normal with solid mounts. If you do the lower mounts, but not the top mount, you may have more vibration that you would if you have both, because the main vibration is focused on the one mount. I honestly dont really notice the vibrations that much.

These mounts prevent the motor from shifting. They are that solid. You can as soon as you go to install them, you will be able to see that they will be doing their job.


Thanks for this post.

how long is the warranty?

standard warranty is 1 year, but as any "cavalier" member knows, if it is past this date, we will still take care of you :) No worries, that is why everyone knows TTR Customer Service is the BEST!

Do these fit on a 2004 redline?

Do these fit on a 2004 redline?

No sorry buddy!

TTR has been known well before the cobalt platform was released to have great customer service going above and beyond, and they will still hold that even after the cobalt is gone and the next model is released

I am mainly concerned about long term. I mean like thousands of miles, 10k+? Because there have been prior mounds, ie. ms3, using poly that couldnt hold up long term. They held for the testing period though.

had mine for 20k miles... maybe a lil bit more. they looked brand new when i pulled them out

i know a friend in NY that has been running a TTR transmission mount for 6 years and it still is holding up / performing fine and that car has 120k on it, and 6 years of NY winters. what more testing do people want on TTR products?

so having vibes is a benefit now? having the dash rattle like glassware in the cabinet during an earthquake isn't a benefit, it's annoyance.

where are the "testers"? i want them to answer the vibe question.

seriously? these are performance mods, like all mounts you will get vibes. and if you dont enjoy the feel of your car and what it is doing you are not truley a car guy. you drive a cobalt, not a cadillac.

vibrations are normal, buth there are nothing with questions

but you still get vibes... and i love that feeling everytime i start my car... its awesome!

have you guys compared these to the ottp mounts because i have the ott stage 2 mounts and i still get some wheel hop at the track. i kinda miss my ttr solid mounts except these dont vib as much

I dont see how you get wheel hop still because from what i've seen, tires simply roast with those mounts.

Again, we are not claiming "no vibs", rigid mounts are needed to firm up the drivetrain, true performance members will want them, and wont care about this side effect. If you are not intereted becuase they have poly, it is YOUR choice, dont post.





I'm posting because i'm interested in the vibes. I had poly's, holy shit they sucked. Rode in a rotated mount car, very minimal vibes. If these "stop" mounts rotate and use poly I want to see how much it vibes. Can't see anything without having a set of my own though. I'll wait for a comparo from someone else.

Great question!

It is not done on a degree of rotation.

It was done by properly re loacting the X and Y axis, of the mounting points, to have alignment of the axle.

We do not use the term "rotate". Rotation "degrees" is irrelevant, with this being stated.

Hi,

Are the TTR mounts correcting a factory defect by re-aligning the axles?

What happens when 3rd party lowering springs are installed? Does the axle alignment get worse? If so, is the amount of re-alignment of the axles always the same for every different set of lowering springs? What about adjustable coil-overs where the height can be raised and lowered? Will that affect the axle alignment after every adjustment?

Thanks!

no one has actually compared them, they are either on a bandwagon already or they are open to new product, its sad

I'm not on a bandwagon. I had other solid mounts, i have pictures at home that compare them. I'm not a bandwagoneer. I tested this product to give an honest response. You want results with mounts that do their job, this is them.

I like ottp alot, and I think they are a great company and have great products, but TTR IMO, is just as good, if not better, because they work with hahn, and sell alot of hahn products.

I'm posting because i'm interested in the vibes. I had poly's, holy shit they sucked. Rode in a rotated mount car, very minimal vibes. If these "stop" mounts rotate and use poly I want to see how much it vibes. Can't see anything without having a set of my own though. I'll wait for a comparo from someone else.

I can honestly say that the vibes are minimal. I had a different set of poly inserts and they vibrated hella bad. These are like a whole different world. You feel some minimal vibration, and that really it. Scary part is, I dont have the ttr top engine mount, i wish i did, its just something I can't afford at the moment.

the only time i get wheel hop is at the track when it is not prepped well

I can honestly say that the vibes are minimal. I had a different set of poly inserts and they vibrated hella bad. These are like a whole different world. You feel some minimal vibration, and that really it. Scary part is, I dont have the ttr top engine mount, i wish i did, its just something I can't afford at the moment.

Thanks for you input on this new product!

your either torqued wrong or they are not settled in.

everything is installed right and i have had them for a long time now everything is settled they just dont stop wheel hop 100% like my solid mounts did

Aaron.... do you know the correct torque specs for the mounts? same as factory?

This thread is about the mounts, how about you take your school girl drama somewhere else. (not intended to you^^^)
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.

Aaron.... do you know the correct torque specs for the mounts? same as factory?

Yes we use factory torque specs, as they use the factory bolts.

This thread is about the mounts, how about you take your school girl drama somewhere else.

Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.

I agree 100%

This thread is about the mounts, how about you take your school girl drama somewhere else.

Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.

Thanks, this is exactly what is post is about, informitve.

Yes we use factory torque specs, as they use the factory bolts.

gotcha, i didn't know if with the poly inserts or strategic design it'll require a tad bit more torque. factory bolts = factory torque specs

So you think your upper mount has enough play to let the engine rotate enough for your trans mounts to work?

Already been tested :) so YES!

I wish I had the money, id be willing to get rid of my tranny mounts boughten from you guys for these new mounts, it would compliment my TTR engine mount nicely :)

you already said the 2.2 are being tested what about auto?s i want mounts but i don't want inserts. from what i heard rotated or shifted axle mounts? have less vibes right. so do you have any plans on auto stop mounts

I've been running the TTR STOP mounts for about 4 months and ~10,000 miles of driving now. (I drive 100 miles a day at least). The install couldn't be any easier on this car, I believe they are using the guide I wrote up which is very detailed with plenty of high quality pics. If it takes you the 45 mins Aaron is quoting, I would be surprised! It's very straight forward!

On the install, since there are questions about the stock upper mount while using these, I am running ONLY the TTR STOP mounts, all others are stock. When you install the rear mount, which makes the alignment change, I only had to jack up the rear of the engine maybe .25-.5". There was no flex or stress to speak of on the other mount from doing this!

With all that being said, the car feels incredibly solid with these in place. Running my 25+ psi tune you could feel the car lug while things moved around and then pick up, now that feeling is gone. It instantly delivers the power to the ground with 0 wheel hop to date while using these. I track my car prolly every other Friday at a local dragstrip and these have held up QUITE well! I have high quality pics from the day of the install, I will go outside later today and take some current pics to compare the Poly for everyone. I just changed my oil again, I checked them out and they looked great still! I look forward to using these with some DR's next year!!

And finally onto the vibration aspect. Yes they are there. But they are very minimal and quite livable! Aaron is dead on with it being a MORE then fair trade for the performance! At VERY first they felt a little harsh to be totally honest. After talking with Aaron he suggested I give them a couple days, and within a couple days that did pass! The only time I notice any difference at this point is if I pull away from a traffic light lugging it in first or on cold startup for the first 30 secs. Otherwise you really notice no change in vibration! Highway at 75-80 is nice and smooth and even when you accelerate to climb a hill, its still has no vibe.

Ive had quite a few cars with poly inserts and this is NOTHING like that. Excellent work TTR! Don't forget me if you have more parts :)


Edit: Some pics

http://www.backyardturbo.com/nick/ttr.jpg

http://www.backyardturbo.com/nick/ttr1.jpg

http://www.backyardturbo.com/nick/ttr2.jpg

http://www.backyardturbo.com/nick/ttr3.jpg

These are the install pics, so don't mind that they're not fully installed in the one pic lol. I can't find the other ones at the moment!

I agree with the above!

Update! Installed pictures on page #5 (bottom)!

I've been running the TTR STOP mounts for about 4 months and ~10,000 miles of driving now. (I drive 100 miles a day at least). The install couldn't be any easier on this car, I believe they are using the guide I wrote up which is very detailed with plenty of high quality pics. If it takes you the 45 mins Aaron is quoting, I would be surprised! It's very straight forward!

On the install, since there are questions about the stock upper mount while using these, I am running ONLY the TTR STOP mounts, all others are stock. When you install the rear mount, which makes the alignment change, I only had to jack up the rear of the engine maybe .25-.5". There was no flex or stress to speak of on the other mount from doing this!

With all that being said, the car feels incredibly solid with these in place. Running my 25+ psi tune you could feel the car lug while things moved around and then pick up, now that feeling is gone. It instantly delivers the power to the ground with 0 wheel hop to date while using these. I track my car prolly every other Friday at a local dragstrip and these have held up QUITE well! I have high quality pics from the day of the install, I will go outside later today and take some current pics to compare the Poly for everyone. I just changed my oil again, I checked them out and they looked great still! I look forward to using these with some DR's next year!!

And finally onto the vibration aspect. Yes they are there. But they are very minimal and quite livable! Aaron is dead on with it being a MORE then fair trade for the performance! At VERY first they felt a little harsh to be totally honest. After talking with Aaron he suggested I give them a couple days, and within a couple days that did pass! The only time I notice any difference at this point is if I pull away from a traffic light lugging it in first or on cold startup for the first 30 secs. Otherwise you really notice no change in vibration! Highway at 75-80 is nice and smooth and even when you accelerate to climb a hill, its still has no vibe.

Ive had quite a few cars with poly inserts and this is NOTHING like that. Excellent work TTR! Don't forget me if you have more parts :)



These are the install pics, so don't mind that they're not fully installed in the one pic lol. I can't find the other ones at the moment!

Thanks Nick!

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Okay, I skimmed through a few pages of this nonsense.....I have some questions I want cleared up/answered as I didnt see the answer.

Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?


Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?

Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.

Okay, I skimmed through a few pages of this nonsense.....I have some questions I want cleared up/answered as I didnt see the answer.

Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?


Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?

Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.

We would love to post all the testers, however, we have to let them come to this thread, on their own; confidentiality reasons (and if you were one, I am sure you would agree, as we just asked them to long term test these, not be our advertizing campain)


Yes the proportion was a tested amount, Nick stated in his coments back to us, he felt the poly portion ratio was very nicely done for this application. Durameter is around a 75 Shore A.

Okay, I skimmed through a few pages of this nonsense.....I have some questions I want cleared up/answered as I didnt see the answer.

Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?


Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?

Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.

I've been here since 2006....i just had a different sn. I can tell you who i am via pm if you want.

2.0L lsj
s20g turbo converson
forged internals
If you want to know the little stuff i'll tell you.

All the work was done by me, and local friends to help with tear down.

You have rotate the trans, its very minimal, but it works very well!!! I cant say how impressed I am with these mounts.

Honestly, the hardest part of being a tester was waiting for TTR to release the the product so I could post about it. It is honestly worth every single penny. No doubt in my mind.

We would love to post all the testers, however, we have to let them come to this thread, on their own; confidentiality reasons (and if you were one, I am sure you would agree, as we just asked them to long term test these, not be our advertizing campain)

Fair enough, but Id still like to hear from all the testers.

They do rotate the engine, however, that is not a factor, it is a result of shifting the front and rear tranny mounts in a X & Y plane from the factory location. I am sure you could find an imaginary point in space and state it rotates around this point, but who cares...

Youre right I dont care, I asked a specific question about realigning the axles and you again didnt answer it directly as you havent for everyone who asked.

Again, to be clear.... Do these realign the axles by moving the powertrain assembly in relation to the vertical(up/down) and longitudinal(front/back) axis of the vehicle?

Nice Aaron. I don't know if this was asked. But will these mounts be safe to run with the TTR engine mount? I know there was some debate with another companies mounts and your engine mount.

Nevermind I should have clicked the link first :lol:

Again, to be clear.... Do these realign the axles by moving the powertrain assembly in relation to the vertical(up/down) and longitudinal(front/back) axis of the vehicle?


Sorry Maven, I over looked this will all the post trying to respond to them…

OUR mount moves in BOTH directs, however the critical direction is alignment front to back, as you can control this. The up/down you cannot control, as you as a suspension guy, knows the A-arm does not stay in a static position, it also moves up and down and you can never achieve an alignment, in a drivable alignment in this aspect. Overall tire diameter would change the output alignment, as drive over bumps/cracks in the road, movement in the suspension will also move. Why did we move up/down? We needed it to pivot around our upper mount, along with keeping the distance from the front and back transmission mount the same distance apart, as the bolts would not fit up as they should.

Hope this helps.

Nice Aaron. I don't know if this was asked. But will these mounts be safe to run with the TTR engine mount? I know there was some debate with another companies mounts and your engine mount.

Nevermind I should have clicked the link first :lol:

Yup, it has been tested with and without our upper engine mount, either case our mounts work with it.

so when i ordered my engine mount i got trans mounts also....should i get these instead or is this something different? and does this replace the trans mounts?

so when i ordered my engine mount i got trans mounts also....should i get these instead or is this something different? and does this replace the trans mounts?

You may want to for max performance

As stated earlier.

Any non-constructive posts/questions from here on will result in a 3 day suspension...

If you don't think you can follow this simple rule you will be banned.


I will be watching to make sure this topic does not go off topic again.


Carry on.

You may want to for max performance Would you recommend using these with your upper mount or will it defeat the STOP mounts main purpose? I didn't know if a stock mount would be ok with these, or if these mounts would stress the stock motor mount. I still have the upper mount and the old inserts from you.

Would you recommend using these with your upper mount or will it defeat the STOP mounts main purpose? I didn't know if a stock mount would be ok with these, or if these mounts would stress the stock motor mount. I still have the old inserts from you.

We have had it on cobalts both ways already...

Either way, you can run the stock upper and just the STOP mounts

OR

You can run the TTR upper and the STOP mounts, OUR mounts are designed to work with the TTR upper mount.

For max performance, if you can, get both.

love the limited engine movement (crisper shifts and no harsh drivetrain shock), but hate the vibs during the winter......most of all, I hate the tiny bit of wheelhop!

I need to think about this since I spent over $250 last year on all poly mounts from you. lol

love the limited engine movement (crisper shifts and no harsh drivetrain shock), but hate the vibs during the winter......most of all, I hate the tiny bit of wheelhop!

I need to think about this since I spent over $250 last year on all poly mounts from you. lol

Any questions let us know.

A new order just came in, thanks! If you may, please post when you order :cssNET:

have a question...not sure what has happened but this should stay on the point of constructive thread.

what material is the mount made of? not the poly bushing but the mount itself. To me, it honestly looks identical to another mount that has been on the market for almost a year. What makes these mounts different other than the poly bushing?

have a question...not sure what has happened but this should stay on the point of constructive thread.

what material is the mount made of? not the poly bushing but the mount itself. To me, it honestly looks identical to another mount that has been on the market for almost a year. What makes these mounts different other than the poly bushing?

Aluminum, the most common material to make aftermarket mounts with. There is only 2 main choices, aluminum and steel. Who wants all that weight from steel?

ALL intakes look simillar also, oh and so do lowering springs, and struts... Lets move on.

bump for a good vendor and product.

We chose poly for one main reason, control of the movement. With the proper amount of bushing ratio, vibs can be minimized, by dampening the harmonic motions the engine produces. We tested these and the testers have found the ratio to be very approperate. These mounts are to be the complete package, including reducing engine movement, a contributor to wheel hop.



Hopefull spring time :) Takes months to desgin, test, and get ready for production.

I would test these just have the ploy inserts now. And with cams the Vibe are harsh

i want someone to compare these mounts to ott mounts. i still get wheel hop with mine and i dont what any hop but dont want the vibs of solid mounts because i have already had them

Aluminum, the most common material to make aftermarket mounts with. There is only 2 main choices, aluminum and steel. Who wants all that weight from steel?

ALL intakes look simillar also, oh and so do lowering springs, and struts... Lets move on.

yes they may look similar but please tell me what the difference is. On intakes there is something that makes them different then the next...same with springs (spring rates, drop, etc). Can't the same be said for mounts?

Are there pics of the mounts that have lasted "long term"? How many long term tests were there? I have only heard of 1 person stating they had them on for 10k+ miles.

Are there pics of the mounts that have lasted "long term"? How many long term tests were there? I have only heard of 1 person stating they had them on for 10k+ miles.


We have to let the testers show their photos. None of the test cobalts, had any showing of wear. They look just like new after 1,000's of miles. We have made mounts for many many years, this is nothing new for us. Durability has never been an issue.

Anything else let us know.

these appear to only be for the LSJ, not for the LNF... care to comment?

these appear to only be for the LSJ, not for the LNF... care to comment?

Why do you say that?

http://www.turbotechracing.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=5278&idcategory=

Fits:
2005-07 Chevrolet Cobalt SS/SC 2.0L, F35 Trans
2008-09 Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 2.0L, F35 Trans

These have been tested on the LNF and LSJ.

I have these installed and i have a ss/tc.

these appear to only be for the LSJ, not for the LNF... care to comment?

hahah, he posted in the OTT thread that the mounts in the ss/sc dont fit the ss/tc... someone mechanically declined?

hahah, he posted in the OTT thread that the mounts in the ss/sc dont fit the ss/tc... someone mechanically declined?

Lets keep to the point here, and not venture off :)


Bushing diameter between the stock castings are slighly different (SS/SC VS SS/TC), I am sure this is what he is refering to. However being these are 100% replacement from the factory mounts, this makes no difference, and is why they are for both applicaions.

Have had previous issues with TTR saying that something fit the LNF when it didn't.... (I will not elaborate in this thread however...)

Thus, it was a legitimate question on my part... I wanted to make sure that some with a tc actually tested these.....

Have had previous issues with TTR saying that something fit the LNF when it didn't.... (I will not elaborate in this thread however...)

Thus, it was a legitimate question on my part... I wanted to make sure that some with a tc actually tested these.....

Sure not a problem, as ecotecturbo has confirmed for you.

yes they may look similar but please tell me what the difference is. On intakes there is something that makes them different then the next...same with springs (spring rates, drop, etc). Can't the same be said for mounts?

so what is the difference in these mounts? They look similar and yes so don't springs and intakes, but there are many differences between those......so what is the difference in these mounts to the ones that are out there?

these mounts have uber l33t poly bushings
for ultimate vibrations!
:twothumbs

so what is the difference in these mounts? They look similar and yes so don't springs and intakes, but there are many differences between those......so what is the difference in these mounts to the ones that are out there?

We use poly bushings at a specific durameter (hardness) for this application.

We use a specific center bushing pin size, very precise to the actualy diamter of the bolt, which travels through it.

Over all JUST like springs, they must fit in a very specific, pre determined area/window. You could say ours look a lot like the factory ones, just made from aluminum? :) Along with many other mount choices out there.

Springs have 3 over all varables, spring rate, ride height and color... Basic principles of what springs are.

I wrote a review for these and I have a LNF, they def work on them :)

I will take some pics of the mounts at 10K + miles asap!

We use poly bushings at a specific durameter (hardness) for this application.

We use a specific center bushing pin size, very precise to the actualy diamter of the bolt, which travels through it.

Over all JUST like springs, they must fit in a very specific, pre determined area/window. You could say ours look a lot like the factory ones, just made from aluminum? :) Along with many other mount choices out there.

Springs have 3 over all varables, spring rate, ride height and color... Basic principles of what springs are.

ok so you went with a poly bushing that is harder, just like the poly inserts into stock mounts....why are you replacing the stock mount to a mount that rotates along the x and y axis?

ok so you went with a poly bushing that is harder, just like the poly inserts into stock mounts....why are you replacing the stock mount to a mount that rotates along the x and y axis?

As stated on our site, and already in this thread, if you would take some time to read it, to align the axles. If you would go to the product link you will see.

OUR customers asked us Turbo Tech Racing to manufacture these mounts, we did just that for OUR customers. They wanted an axle alignment mount, in which was designed with poly, for a rigid mount setup, made with billet aluminum, and be a direct bolt in, did not want a mount they had to take apart and install an insert into. Like any good company would do, we listen and offered our customers with their request.

I wrote a review for these and I have a LNF, they def work on them :)

I will take some pics of the mounts at 10K + miles asap!

Thanks Nick!

I didn't put a ton of miles my car, but i pounded the crap out of it, and these mounts definately held up lol

I didn't put a ton of miles my car, but i pounded the crap out of it, and these mounts definately held up lol

Thanks for the comments to others concerns!

Perhaps I'm not informed well enough, but here goes anyway...
OK, I know this is for the F35 manual...I saw that you are hoping to have a 2.2 version out sometime near spring...will this only be for manual or is there an auto version in the works? Or is this something that doesn't work with auto's at all?

Thanks.
Mike

Perhaps I'm not informed well enough, but here goes anyway...
OK, I know this is for the F35 manual...I saw that you are hoping to have a 2.2 version out sometime near spring...will this only be for manual or is there an auto version in the works? Or is this something that doesn't work with auto's at all?

Thanks.
Mike

This is something we will have to figure out.

Post up pictures when you guys install them. New 6 page COLOR install guide is now included in every kit :)

the mounts are aluminum...can u make them black (not the bushing)...like the upper engine mouts???powder coated?? i would deff. get one that way whn i get the cash.

the mounts are aluminum...can u make them black (not the bushing)...like the upper engine mouts???powder coated?? i would deff. get one that way whn i get the cash.

Yes, we offer both powder coated for $10.00 ($5.00 each) Just PM us...

5 more sets shipped this week! Thanks everyone for your support!

Hey Aaron you guys going to be having any ridiculously awesome sales on black friday?

Hey Aaron you guys going to be having any ridiculously awesome sales on black friday?

I am sure we will have something, as we have done for the last 5 years here :)

Awesome :)
Looks like I will have to be patient and wait till then and see if I can save some cash then. Thanks Aaron!

this is a awesome product and works wonders for Cobalts... this is a must buy! should be one of the first mods!

PM me your contact name. Sounds like you have a set from us already...?

Please keep this thread on topic :cssNET:

Awesome :)
Looks like I will have to be patient and wait till then and see if I can save some cash then. Thanks Aaron!

If you are interested in anything sooner, let us know, we can work out a package deal or somthing for you.

sub. might need some while i do my turbo swap umm

sub. might need some while i do my turbo swap umm

im running these rico, they work very well and are well worth the price. they eleminated wheel hop completely!

heres a video from a 4500rpm launch control, just messing around.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/th_DSCN1129.jpg (http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/?action=view&current=DSCN1129.flv)

dang nice. yeah ill get these once i get a new clutch. and first of all figure out my tune problem that I see happening:(

Maybe I'm lazy and don't feel like reading in to this. Is there OR will there be an option for those of us with 04 RL's?

Maybe I'm lazy and don't feel like reading in to this. Is there OR will there be an option for those of us with 04 RL's?

Not at this time.

We have just the poly insert designed for the front 2004 mount, rear is the same bushing as the 2005-07 cobalt ss/sc

Is the front mount rotated or is it only the rear mount?

Is the front mount rotated or is it only the rear mount?

On this kit, both the front and rear mount move in reference to the bolt point onto the transmission.

The 2004 bushing is just a bushing...

For anyone who is interested here is my review of this product along with pics and video of initial testing.

i went ahead and installed the ttr steering blocks and ttr stop mounts and upper ttr mount at the same time.

I just got back from a test drive and I am very very impressed. Not only was the steering easier, but the shifting was tighter, accel, and decel were both smoother and felt almost like a different car! I have provided a link with some pics as well as video's of the install and testing! Back to the "STOP" mounts.

The install was easy and smooth although to get the top passenger TTR upper engine mount to re-align it took quite a bit of jacking on the front pass corner of the oil pan (with a block of wood in between the jack and oil pan of coarse).
On my turbo car the dp is in the way and wont allow the bolt to come out, so i removed the whole rear unit (as seen in pics) this allowed installation of the rear TTR STOP mount.
Then i moved up to the front and did the quick swap of the front STOP mount. Due to the handy machined in spacer you provide. this was very easy and quick swap.
After that I followed up with the upper TTR pass mount. This is a direct bolt in for SS/SC, but in my case I had to remove my K&N due to the custom turbo set-up. This was the first mount to be completely tightened.
Then with the front and back loose I started the car and ran the A/C to increase vibes and help the engine settle in place. I then turned off the car and tightened both the front and rear mount.
This gave me the best results as far as least cabin vibration. Another thing I would like to touch on. There is almost no vibration at all, I was very surprised to find that the vibrations were much like stock but a little more in touch with the LSJ 2.0 : )




All i can say is thank you!

Thank you, for everything you have done for not only me but the whole cobalt community!


HERE IS THE LINK TO THE ALBUM, THE PASSWORD IS: TTRSTOP (case sensitive)


http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/TTR%20STOP%20MOUNTS/

video:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/TTR%20STOP%20MOUNTS/th_8419a089.jpg (http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/TTR%20STOP%20MOUNTS/?action=view&current=8419a089.pbr)

Thanks for the review and write up. Glad to hear you feel there are hardly any vibs :)

So this won't fit on a 2.2L?.. Darn. :cry:

is there a set for the 2.2 in the works yet?

is there a set for the 2.2 in the works yet?

We will be evaluating to see if the 2.2/2.4 (F23 transmission) has this same issue. It will most likely be spring time before we get through all the findings/design/testing. It could be the 2.2/2.4L does not have this issue, or maybe it does.

HERE IS THE LINK TO THE ALBUM, THE PASSWORD IS: TTRSTOP (case sensitive)


http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/TTR%20STOP%20MOUNTS/

video:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/TTR%20STOP%20MOUNTS/th_8419a089.jpg (http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/hungryhip-ccp/TTR%20STOP%20MOUNTS/?action=view&current=8419a089.pbr)

Thanks again for this video, shows how well these work!

3 more sets shipping today!

click. after my turbo kit in on

click. after my turbo kit in on

You got it, let us know if you have any questions.

Nice thing about these is they have Poly for max performace to eliminate engine movement! They cause minimal vibs, but members that go to the track and want max performance you will want to have minimal engine movement to maximize torque!