New Product @ TTR - Turbo Tech Racing STOP Transmission Mounts!
10-30-2009, 11:59 AM
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I'm posting because i'm interested in the vibes. I had poly's, holy **** they sucked. Rode in a rotated mount car, very minimal vibes. If these "stop" mounts rotate and use poly I want to see how much it vibes. Can't see anything without having a set of my own though. I'll wait for a comparo from someone else.
10-30-2009, 12:00 PM
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Are the TTR mounts correcting a factory defect by re-aligning the axles?
What happens when 3rd party lowering springs are installed? Does the axle alignment get worse? If so, is the amount of re-alignment of the axles always the same for every different set of lowering springs? What about adjustable coil-overs where the height can be raised and lowered? Will that affect the axle alignment after every adjustment?
Thanks!
10-30-2009, 12:01 PM
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I like ottp alot, and I think they are a great company and have great products, but TTR IMO, is just as good, if not better, because they work with hahn, and sell alot of hahn products.
10-30-2009, 12:03 PM
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I'm posting because i'm interested in the vibes. I had poly's, holy **** they sucked. Rode in a rotated mount car, very minimal vibes. If these "stop" mounts rotate and use poly I want to see how much it vibes. Can't see anything without having a set of my own though. I'll wait for a comparo from someone else.
10-30-2009, 12:08 PM
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I can honestly say that the vibes are minimal. I had a different set of poly inserts and they vibrated hella bad. These are like a whole different world. You feel some minimal vibration, and that really it. Scary part is, I dont have the ttr top engine mount, i wish i did, its just something I can't afford at the moment.
10-30-2009, 12:19 PM
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This thread is about the mounts, how about you take your school girl drama somewhere else. (not intended to you^^^)
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.
10-30-2009, 12:22 PM
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This thread is about the mounts, how about you take your school girl drama somewhere else.
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.
10-30-2009, 12:22 PM
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This thread is about the mounts, how about you take your school girl drama somewhere else.
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.
Fact is, these are awesome mounts, and they what they are intended to do, solid shifts, eliminates torque shift in the motor, and prevents wheel hop. Some vibrations, but very minimal. Thats what it comes down to.
10-30-2009, 12:23 PM
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you already said the 2.2 are being tested what about auto?s i want mounts but i don't want inserts. from what i heard rotated or shifted axle mounts? have less vibes right. so do you have any plans on auto stop mounts
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10-30-2009, 12:45 PM
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I've been running the TTR STOP mounts for about 4 months and ~10,000 miles of driving now. (I drive 100 miles a day at least). The install couldn't be any easier on this car, I believe they are using the guide I wrote up which is very detailed with plenty of high quality pics. If it takes you the 45 mins Aaron is quoting, I would be surprised! It's very straight forward!
On the install, since there are questions about the stock upper mount while using these, I am running ONLY the TTR STOP mounts, all others are stock. When you install the rear mount, which makes the alignment change, I only had to jack up the rear of the engine maybe .25-.5". There was no flex or stress to speak of on the other mount from doing this!
With all that being said, the car feels incredibly solid with these in place. Running my 25+ psi tune you could feel the car lug while things moved around and then pick up, now that feeling is gone. It instantly delivers the power to the ground with 0 wheel hop to date while using these. I track my car prolly every other Friday at a local dragstrip and these have held up QUITE well! I have high quality pics from the day of the install, I will go outside later today and take some current pics to compare the Poly for everyone. I just changed my oil again, I checked them out and they looked great still! I look forward to using these with some DR's next year!!
And finally onto the vibration aspect. Yes they are there. But they are very minimal and quite livable! Aaron is dead on with it being a MORE then fair trade for the performance! At VERY first they felt a little harsh to be totally honest. After talking with Aaron he suggested I give them a couple days, and within a couple days that did pass! The only time I notice any difference at this point is if I pull away from a traffic light lugging it in first or on cold startup for the first 30 secs. Otherwise you really notice no change in vibration! Highway at 75-80 is nice and smooth and even when you accelerate to climb a hill, its still has no vibe.
Ive had quite a few cars with poly inserts and this is NOTHING like that. Excellent work TTR! Don't forget me if you have more parts
Edit: Some pics
These are the install pics, so don't mind that they're not fully installed in the one pic lol. I can't find the other ones at the moment!
On the install, since there are questions about the stock upper mount while using these, I am running ONLY the TTR STOP mounts, all others are stock. When you install the rear mount, which makes the alignment change, I only had to jack up the rear of the engine maybe .25-.5". There was no flex or stress to speak of on the other mount from doing this!
With all that being said, the car feels incredibly solid with these in place. Running my 25+ psi tune you could feel the car lug while things moved around and then pick up, now that feeling is gone. It instantly delivers the power to the ground with 0 wheel hop to date while using these. I track my car prolly every other Friday at a local dragstrip and these have held up QUITE well! I have high quality pics from the day of the install, I will go outside later today and take some current pics to compare the Poly for everyone. I just changed my oil again, I checked them out and they looked great still! I look forward to using these with some DR's next year!!
And finally onto the vibration aspect. Yes they are there. But they are very minimal and quite livable! Aaron is dead on with it being a MORE then fair trade for the performance! At VERY first they felt a little harsh to be totally honest. After talking with Aaron he suggested I give them a couple days, and within a couple days that did pass! The only time I notice any difference at this point is if I pull away from a traffic light lugging it in first or on cold startup for the first 30 secs. Otherwise you really notice no change in vibration! Highway at 75-80 is nice and smooth and even when you accelerate to climb a hill, its still has no vibe.
Ive had quite a few cars with poly inserts and this is NOTHING like that. Excellent work TTR! Don't forget me if you have more parts
Edit: Some pics
These are the install pics, so don't mind that they're not fully installed in the one pic lol. I can't find the other ones at the moment!
10-30-2009, 01:14 PM
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Update! Installed pictures on page #5 (bottom)!
Thanks Nick!
Any questions, let us know
I've been running the TTR STOP mounts for about 4 months and ~10,000 miles of driving now. (I drive 100 miles a day at least). The install couldn't be any easier on this car, I believe they are using the guide I wrote up which is very detailed with plenty of high quality pics. If it takes you the 45 mins Aaron is quoting, I would be surprised! It's very straight forward!
On the install, since there are questions about the stock upper mount while using these, I am running ONLY the TTR STOP mounts, all others are stock. When you install the rear mount, which makes the alignment change, I only had to jack up the rear of the engine maybe .25-.5". There was no flex or stress to speak of on the other mount from doing this!
With all that being said, the car feels incredibly solid with these in place. Running my 25+ psi tune you could feel the car lug while things moved around and then pick up, now that feeling is gone. It instantly delivers the power to the ground with 0 wheel hop to date while using these. I track my car prolly every other Friday at a local dragstrip and these have held up QUITE well! I have high quality pics from the day of the install, I will go outside later today and take some current pics to compare the Poly for everyone. I just changed my oil again, I checked them out and they looked great still! I look forward to using these with some DR's next year!!
And finally onto the vibration aspect. Yes they are there. But they are very minimal and quite livable! Aaron is dead on with it being a MORE then fair trade for the performance! At VERY first they felt a little harsh to be totally honest. After talking with Aaron he suggested I give them a couple days, and within a couple days that did pass! The only time I notice any difference at this point is if I pull away from a traffic light lugging it in first or on cold startup for the first 30 secs. Otherwise you really notice no change in vibration! Highway at 75-80 is nice and smooth and even when you accelerate to climb a hill, its still has no vibe.
Ive had quite a few cars with poly inserts and this is NOTHING like that. Excellent work TTR! Don't forget me if you have more parts
These are the install pics, so don't mind that they're not fully installed in the one pic lol. I can't find the other ones at the moment!
On the install, since there are questions about the stock upper mount while using these, I am running ONLY the TTR STOP mounts, all others are stock. When you install the rear mount, which makes the alignment change, I only had to jack up the rear of the engine maybe .25-.5". There was no flex or stress to speak of on the other mount from doing this!
With all that being said, the car feels incredibly solid with these in place. Running my 25+ psi tune you could feel the car lug while things moved around and then pick up, now that feeling is gone. It instantly delivers the power to the ground with 0 wheel hop to date while using these. I track my car prolly every other Friday at a local dragstrip and these have held up QUITE well! I have high quality pics from the day of the install, I will go outside later today and take some current pics to compare the Poly for everyone. I just changed my oil again, I checked them out and they looked great still! I look forward to using these with some DR's next year!!
And finally onto the vibration aspect. Yes they are there. But they are very minimal and quite livable! Aaron is dead on with it being a MORE then fair trade for the performance! At VERY first they felt a little harsh to be totally honest. After talking with Aaron he suggested I give them a couple days, and within a couple days that did pass! The only time I notice any difference at this point is if I pull away from a traffic light lugging it in first or on cold startup for the first 30 secs. Otherwise you really notice no change in vibration! Highway at 75-80 is nice and smooth and even when you accelerate to climb a hill, its still has no vibe.
Ive had quite a few cars with poly inserts and this is NOTHING like that. Excellent work TTR! Don't forget me if you have more parts
These are the install pics, so don't mind that they're not fully installed in the one pic lol. I can't find the other ones at the moment!
Any questions, let us know
Last edited by TurboTechRacing; 10-30-2009 at 01:15 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
10-30-2009, 01:31 PM
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Okay, I skimmed through a few pages of this nonsense.....I have some questions I want cleared up/answered as I didnt see the answer.
Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?
Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?
Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.
Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?
Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?
Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.
10-30-2009, 02:00 PM
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Okay, I skimmed through a few pages of this nonsense.....I have some questions I want cleared up/answered as I didnt see the answer.
Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?
Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?
Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.
Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?
Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?
Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.
Yes the proportion was a tested amount, Nick stated in his coments back to us, he felt the poly portion ratio was very nicely done for this application. Durameter is around a 75 Shore A.
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10-30-2009, 02:15 PM
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Okay, I skimmed through a few pages of this nonsense.....I have some questions I want cleared up/answered as I didnt see the answer.
Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?
Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?
Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.
Who are the testers? I didnt recognize half the names, looked like most of them have only been here for a few months, so to help us out Can we get a list? what engine, what mods, etc?
Okay I get these dont "rotate" the engine, I get why,we all know this is nothing entirely new but I think both sides are being unecessarily douche-y about it. I just want it to be clarified (at least for me) that these mounts realign the axles by repositioning the powertrain along the longitudinal and vertical axis' of the car, correct?
Is the poly portion of the mount unique to this application or is it used somewhere else?is it the same diameter/durometer as the inserts?
Trying to get more answers as to vibes.
2.0L lsj
s20g turbo converson
forged internals
If you want to know the little stuff i'll tell you.
All the work was done by me, and local friends to help with tear down.
You have rotate the trans, its very minimal, but it works very well!!! I cant say how impressed I am with these mounts.
Honestly, the hardest part of being a tester was waiting for TTR to release the the product so I could post about it. It is honestly worth every single penny. No doubt in my mind.
10-30-2009, 02:18 PM
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They do rotate the engine, however, that is not a factor, it is a result of shifting the front and rear tranny mounts in a X & Y plane from the factory location. I am sure you could find an imaginary point in space and state it rotates around this point, but who cares...
Again, to be clear.... Do these realign the axles by moving the powertrain assembly in relation to the vertical(up/down) and longitudinal(front/back) axis of the vehicle?
10-30-2009, 02:49 PM
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Nice Aaron. I don't know if this was asked. But will these mounts be safe to run with the TTR engine mount? I know there was some debate with another companies mounts and your engine mount.
Nevermind I should have clicked the link first
Nevermind I should have clicked the link first
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