Just have to attach all hoses and electrical thingys

im pullin an all nighter

I will say this now putting an engine in the cobalt by yourself is a true bitch


Mounting the tranny back to the block and aligning the slave cylander into the pressure plate is a joke and that tranny weights a good 250 so holding it wasnt fun



I reccomend anyone that does this have at least 3 individuals to help with reinstall dont do it solo like i just did

I dropped the tranny on my foot in the process

U sir are a true Cobalt fan! I give mad props to you as I will be doing this exact build in the next two weeks! lol

dude get lots of redbull and you as i have will take up smoking from stress

yes this thing has driven me to smoke

its nuts

congrats on being a true cobalt enthusiast.

dude get lots of redbull and you as i have will take up smoking from stress

yes this thing has driven me to smoke

its nuts


Haha yea I already smoke trying to quit but I have some help. my gf's uncle and two cousins build race cars in Illinois and they are going to help me out. Her cousin has a lift in his pole barn at his house so I have access to everything I need. They said they would even hone the cylinders and everything for me. So Im pretty excited I wont have to do this by myself in my garage!

replace cylander sleeves trust me

Great job bro. sounds liek your havin alot of fun lol. let us kno how it runs when you take it out for a drive. I kno your feeling so happy right now. lol. i would be.

so when are you gonna start her up?

Great job bro. sounds liek your havin alot of fun lol. let us kno how it runs when you take it out for a drive. I kno your feeling so happy right now. lol. i would be.

its 50 / 50

im happy it will be done very soon yet i just looked at my credit card bill....:lol:

i hope to fire her up around 7 am when my buddie gets here to help me preliminarly tune it

im gonna try to tune it so i can drive it safely for 3-5 days to break stuff in

then ill play some more

lol...now i found your thread. know what you are doing now

I hope your foot is ok, I'm sure it will be well worth the pain in the end. Specially if your going to have well over 300hps and 250torq...Keep up the hard work. :twothumbs :twothumbs

dude after reading all your threads lately, and the enthusiasm you have for this....I truely hope it fires up and pulls fucking hard.

I hope your pour down 340hp on the dyno and it runs strong for a long time.

Your an inspiration for the rest of us who are to broke or to scared to let go of the warranty (me) lol

keep posting. your car is gonna be idolised soon hehe.

you have got alot of balls man no way i would pull this task i would have my friends shop do it for me lol

I dont trust shops, i might not be the best machanic but i know i do shit right even when i know im right i double check it

ive double and tripple checked everything i only have one possible problem but we wont go into that :)

Dont worry im broke to :)

Yeah I'd quad-check everything

It would suck sooooo bad if you fired that bitch up, and something went wrong

next time call me! i' woulda helped you out... well let me know how it goes!

right on man

well imnot to worried i know timing is dead on we spent 6 hours on it and redid it 3 times and all three times were correct we rotated the crank by hand 10 times to make sure also

so honestly i dont see anything major that can fuck up maybe just a wrong wire or some cels lol

You have put a ton of time effort and money into this project. We at CPP are waiting for you to fire that thing up and show some decent numbers. Hopefully scare the piss out of a few people when you blow by them.

Hey you guys know I love you best customer service out of any vendor on this board and look at that the one I ordered most of the parts from lol

great job man, u truly dedicated

awesome man! Can't wait to see what this beast can do!

Dude that tranny weighs like 75lbs. Lol. Lining it up ain't no thing. Why is it that everyone just decided to build the piss out of their LSJs in the past month? I thought I was going alone on that one right now.

Dude that tranny weighs like 75lbs. Lol. Lining it up ain't no thing. Why is it that everyone just decided to build the piss out of their LSJs in the past month?
Blown ring lands tend to inspire people to upgrade internals. :lol:

I just thought of this, while you had it out you should have swapped to the Neutral balance shafts. I heard that with the stock balance shafts the crank can't handle much more than 370 at the crank. A Red Line guy already snapped his crank at 7800rpm because he didn't swap the balance shafts. He dynoed 425 at the wheels but admits the dyno wasn't accurate.

Blown ring lands tend to inspire people to upgrade internals. :lol:

While you had it out you should have swapped to the Neutral balance shafts. I heard that with the stock balance shafts the crank can't handle much more than 370 at the crank. A Red Line guy already snapped his crank because he didn't swap the balance shafts.

That RedLine guy also beats the snot out of his car on a daily basis. Who is to say he didn't damage the crank prior to that build from detonation or something like him revving to 7800 rpm and this extra power added to it and broke the bitch. GM says the crank is good to like 550. I'd stick with that estimate.

Like another member said what exactly are you doing. All i saw was that you apparently swapped the engine or took it out to upgrade internals. Detailed information would be helpful to understand this thread

can wait to hear/see it!

this has been an ongoing story guys..... do some research and spare him recounting the frustration :P

Like another member said what exactly are you doing. All i saw was that you apparently swapped the engine or took it out to upgrade internals. Detailed information would be helpful to understand this thread
Read his sig and imagine him doing all the work for it. Now your up to speed, or atleast he will be. :guns:

The entire cooling stystem is in!!!

The oild pan is being run though hot water not to clean it out

Then comes electrical and im done!!!!!

yeppie

and neutral balance shafts i was told you dont need them if you dont rev over 7-7200 rpm when powershifting or what not

Honestly i want this for an autoX car so we shall we but i plan to drag to

Read his sig and imagine him doing all the work for it. Now your up to speed, or atleast he will be. :guns:


all the work is done im just playing connect the dots with wires now

ahh back to the garage batman

ok so after like 21 hours of straight automachanines i am so tired i passed out in my engine bay under the car, in the shower and on the steps headed downstaits


She is not running and for that matter neigher am I.

I just have to connect the oil pump, and put the intake manifold on then attach all the little wires

does any1 happen to know where i can find a wiring diagram at?

pictures...pictures...pictures!!!!

DAMN BRO... good luck to you... I myself am going through the same build.. but I bought a spare motor to build up so my wouldn't be down for too long... but it looks like I'll be doing most the work myself and I hope all goes to plan...

bdwarr06, all the wires sort of fall in place believe it or not. Don't forget the cam sensor connector, as that is the one I forgot. Once I plugged it in, we were up and running.

Word of advice, since the engine has been out of the car for a week or so, get electrical connector cleaner from the parts store. Spray both the connector and receptacles on all the parts. This seems dumb, but it solved another issue I was having with one of the sensors not getting the correct readings. Good luck, and get that thing fired up! :twothumbs

I'd be willing to bet that he's passed out somewhere

can't wait to find out how it runs

I'm so watching this thread now.

I give you major props man. I yanked and fixed an engine on my old car by myself, and I know exactly how much of a pain in the ass it is. Hope the rest is easy on you. Def. agree with 2K5SS/SC? about the connector cleaner. I had 4 plug malfunctions when I finally put mine back together.

Dano

I want to know that it started dagnabit

We're all pulling for him, but I have a feeling someone is taking a well deserved nap and may not have everything together for a few hours...either that or he's plugging away at those connections right now.

i passed out in my engine bay....

lol get a bit of rest man.
make sure your head is clear to do a final checkover so its all smooth sailing.
besides....youll enjoy it far more if your rested when it fires up, so you dont collapse just when its play time!!!


btw.....you better get that first fireup on video!

btw.....you better get that first fireup on video!

x2, that'd kick all kinds of ass.

yea i wont be able to work on it until tonight though work sucks

just have the upper intake manifold and the header to put on parts wise and the drive belt, and one coolant hose 1 tranny mount bolt

and then as assload of electrical connectors

good luck man make us proud.

yea i wont be able to work on it until tonight though work sucks

just have the upper intake manifold and the header to put on parts wise and the drive belt, and one coolant hose 1 tranny mount bolt

and then as assload of electrical connectors

:lol: It sounded like you started to say all I have is this, and then the list got larger and larger. Those are definitly some parts all over the bay though, so you must have been tired! You don't have the GM Perfomance Division emblem marked on you forhead now from falling asleep in there do you? That would be an awesome pic! :lol:

By the way when I finally finished my headgasket job, it was 2:00AM and I definitly drove for like an hour or so because I was so happy despite the fact I had to be up early the next morning in my Full Service Dress to attend a funeral!

dont tempt me to do that just for fun to put a gm pd emblem to my head lol cause i will do it

dont tempt me to do that just for fun to put a gm pd emblem to my head lol cause i will do it


DO IT.... DO IT..... DO IT.....!!!!!!!! :lol:

dude u should be taken mad pics

but i hope u alrdy did this from day one

dont tempt me to do that just for fun to put a gm pd emblem to my head lol cause i will do it

no you won't!! :lol:

lol. i can only pray that everything starts up just fine. you deserve a solid start up after all that work.

and yes... SLEEP. you wouldnt want it to start and then ur too tired to play :P

Good luck with everything man . With all the work like this Ive done , trust me ....your gonna have butterflies when the time comes to turn the key :lol: I get em everytime thinking I forgot something .

It makes it a little more special when ya do it all yourself ....so a big :twothumbs to you .

Just wanted to say good job on the build, and I cant wait to hear if it started ok, keep us posted :cssNET:

http://www.ctgilles.net/images/pictars/bestthreadaward.jpg

Hurray up and finish that motor! :lol: I'm rootin for ya. If you need someone from MI to help let me know!

god i cant wait for the video!

I want to know what he's doing right now. He can't still be sleeping, and if I was him, I'd either be working on it still, or driving everywhere

:lol: It sounded like you started to say all I have is this, and then the list got larger and larger. Those are definitly some parts all over the bay though, so you must have been tired! You don't have the GM Perfomance Division emblem marked on you forhead now from falling asleep in there do you? That would be an awesome pic! :lol:

By the way when I finally finished my headgasket job, it was 2:00AM and I definitly drove for like an hour or so because I was so happy despite the fact I had to be up early the next morning in my Full Service Dress to attend a funeral!
Thats nothin! When I did my dual pass intercooler mod, I was still bleeding air out of the system at 5:30AM!!!

Good luck with everything man . With all the work like this Ive done , trust me ....your gonna have butterflies when the time comes to turn the key :lol: I get em everytime thinking I forgot something .

It makes it a little more special when ya do it all yourself ....so a big :twothumbs to you .


I am actually scared..

due to the fact I will no longer have a project and if for some reason it doesnt work ill cry if i have to pull the motor back out but rest assured I will

Would you guys hate me if i said















































Its done? Just have to add oil, tranny fluid, and bleed the clutch

also could someone take a picture of the top of your engine bay I have 1 vacume host extra and I have an open port on my supercharger for a vacume hose but it wont reach that far.

Oh yea I also have 1-2 extra bolts :(

ill make a new thread with a video once paul brings back HP tuners, I dont want to start it without it, also im going to get a new set of spark plugs when autozone opens mine looked a tad fouled

awsome to hear man, i hope everything runs smooth... lol i feel like ive been folowing this thread like a dam soap opera, stop the suspence!! haha let us know what the end product is like asap!

your just as anxious as I am

Im just so worried something will mess up happens everytime i have done engine work dunnpo why oh well i guess

damit autozone open already

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/jmonte345/untitled.jpg

This is the only pic I have, I don't know if it is close enough to help though.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g145/AlphaJaguar5/Grill%20and%20Engine/IMGA0650.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g145/AlphaJaguar5/Grill%20and%20Engine/IMGA0651.jpg

That should be good, let me know if you see what your looking for.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6247/imga0651tu5.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imga0651tu5.jpg)

I dont have this one hooked up, is it the small vacume hose that is about 1 foot long that comes off the black thingy that has 2 sensors and 2 vacume hoses?

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6247/imga0651tu5.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imga0651tu5.jpg)

I dont have this one hooked up, is it the small vacume hose that is about 1 foot long that comes off the black thingy that has 2 sensors and 2 vacume hoses?

It goes onto the intake manifold. There is a little tube that is right next to the injectors that it connects to. Real tight fit in there with all the injectors.

ahh shit i lost a vacume hose then

then what does the like 8 inch vacume tube on back of the bacl thing to the front has like a 3 foor tube and back has 6-12 inch tube that doesnt reach anything

It goes onto the intake manifold. There is a little tube that is right next to the injectors that it connects to. Real tight fit in there with all the injectors.


Yes sir, just an open nipple that should be obvious

then what does the like 8 inch vacume tube on back of the bacl thing to the front has like a 3 foor tube and back has 6-12 inch tube that doesnt reach anything

Are you talking about the PCV system?

Are you talking about the PCV system?


yea let me go take a picture

Dude if its the PCV system just throw a little breather filter on the PCV nipple and block off the nipple on the intake.

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/0/IMAGE_00068.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/0/IMAGE_00069.jpg

and a shot on my messy garage
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/0/IMAGE_00071.jpg

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/0/IMAGE_000691.jpg

1 is where it has a free hose to the rear of it

and 2 is where im missing a hose

Hey nick I hate to say it but I think you broke your bypass actuator from the pictures I can see. You are missing one vaccum line from the bypass solenoid to the bypass actuator.

The line at the bottom of the solenoid (#1) goes to the bypass actuator (#2) and the line at the top of the solenoid goes to the open nipple on the intake manifold

EDIT DONE

can you diagram it for me im so tired and im living on rockstar right now

its not a big deal ill go buy another one but i dont think i broke it i just unhooked it

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/0/IMAGE_00069.jpg


lol, never mind its on there, just the blurryness of the actuator looks like there is a wide open space where the lower nipple is lol

Just the follow the directions in my previous post

EDIT: I will make a diagram now

sorry its from my cell phone
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/4/0/4/0/IMAGE_00074_997735.jpg

#2 runs to the nipple on the intake manifold
#1 is run to nowhere

Dude if its the PCV system just throw a little breather filter on the PCV nipple and block off the nipple on the intake.


can you be more detailed on this for a sleep deprived person please

lol, sorry man I really havent slept in the past 2 days beside a couple hours at my g/f's house today but here's a nice pic of what I'm talking about
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g145/AlphaJaguar5/Grill%20and%20Engine/bdwarr.jpg

so the dinky little pos goes tot he super thats what i thought i just couldnt make it reach

im so happy i can acually drive to work today

hopefully

now that thats fixed time to double check all bolts and add fluids!!!!

i feel it man i feel it

im here with ya man lets get some NEWS

Just got here in time for the good stuff........ sucks to have two bolts left over though

well unless you know howto fire up a car without spark plugs we are all gonna have to wait for autozone

Still Wanta race? LOL :lol:

Still Wanta race? LOL :lol:


name the place

ok it's 8 oclock. Auto Zone opens right now. Hurry the hell up already.

We're almost there man! I men all of us are there with you via computer... Can someone please pass the popcorn here. :lol: I can't wait to hear you cranked it up!

ok it's 8 oclock. Auto Zone opens right now. Hurry the hell up already.
:lol: I can't wait to see this beast done man! Is today judgement day???

Oh, you should set up an steaming video so we can watch you start it up for the first time!

Let the "Pacing around the room" begin!

Let the "Pacing around the room" begin!


I hear that one. I don't have crap to do here in the desert with my free time, so I'm living vicariously through you guys that can actually play with your cars! :lol:

My fingers are crossed for you man! I have been watching this thread since its inception. I too am feeling a little nervous for you! Good Luck!:twothumbs :twothumbs

I hope it works out. You definitely need to post a movie when you fire her up. I hope you get zero problems man, good luck.
I've been watching too from the beginning, just quietly as to not make myself sound like a fool (total newb, i couldnt do what youre doing, no way no how!)

Good Luck!
:guns: :cool: :twothumbs :cssNET: :#one: :-D :D:thumb: :beer:

Youre killing us man!

I fell asleep oncec again 7 hours of sleep in a week now trying to get ahold of my buddie then were good for ignition

So what have you got left to do, except wait for your buddy to come w/ the HP Tuners?

as im reading these posts im also looking for something to snack on... its like the previews at the movies. its fun, and almost the best part, but not exactly what you came for. lol. man i wanna see it fired up. definately need a video. and good luck man.

Well Whats The Haps

I missed the whole story that lead up to this, so how come it blew up?

Well i just picked up 8 plugs :)

Fire It Up!!!!!!!

let's hear it, bitch!! :cssNET:

Good luck Bro!

Cant wait to see video.

This is gonna be sweet once everything fires up.
I got my fingers crossed for you!

:cssNET:

im waiting on my buddie to help me bleed the clutch add fluid and hehas my hptuners

Good luck dude I hope everthing goes as planned

wake me up when its ready to fire up... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzzz...........

I thought I read that the clutch takes some special bleeding. Wish I knew more just make sure to look in to it. GL with everything.

When I pulled my powertrain I did it from below. We used a lift and an engine floor jack. Took the whole thing out from below. Worked great, very easy. I realize in your garage you don't have a lift, but damn are they handy.

The suspense here is killing me. What the heck did you get 8 plugs for? Did you swap in a LS7 or something? :lol:

Jesus! I'm starting to get fidgety! All the laybacks, is killing me! First, Spark Plugs. Then Bleeding the clutch. Then, Your boy w/ the HPTuners. WHAT NEXT???

Ok so i tried to crank it.......

\
battery is dead its on the charger

i havent bled the clutch as i dont know howto get to it or what wrench to use


please i need a way to bleed it while its all in the car i dont wanna have to take shit back off

it wont turn over

i think i didnt hook up the starter

The black fuse box has to be taken off to bleed the clutch initially. There is a little bleeder that is a PITA to get to that the clutch line is connected to. Use the two man system to foot pump the clutch, and open/close the bleeder. Then you will have to vacuum pump to get the rest of the air out. Mity Vac with a rubber stopper will do the trick. Check the drivetrain forum, as there was someone about a week ago the posted pics in there how to set it up and bleed it. Once that is donw 4-5 times you should be set. Make sure you have the wires on the starter correctly. And when playing with the starter disconnect the back so you don't shock yourself like I did one time as my friend decided to hook it up as I was attaching the wires!

What kinda C/R are you going to be running?

10/1 isnt the starter half way in the bell housing?

my car is fucked lol i turned the key and it went flat nuts

i might take it to a dealer and let them fix it from here as its all electrical and a clutch bleeding issue

flat nuts, how?

Details

car is better just wont turn over its acting like the dam starter isnt even hooked up

Is your battery dead.?

it was dead as a doorknob but its been on charger for about an hour with it on start for about 30 min

everything in the car work but the bitch wont crank

i need a picture of the starter on a car the back of it

Double check how the wires are on the starter. Actually pull them off and put them back on. Make sure the connectors on the postive and negative side are not touching each other at all! IIRC there are three, 1 POS+, 1 NEG-, and 1 GRND. Ensure your battery is charged, and it's all hooked up correctly. Check the ground strap on the cylinder head to make sure you reattached it as well. Look over all your sensors as well for any unplugged items.

See your other post as I posted the link to bleed the clutch correctly.

Let me know if there are more questions I can answer.

Check all the relays in the fuse block... 10:1 odds one is loose (it will do the dead key thing) take the cover off and check em all make sure they arent loose.. I am also willing to bet you took the block apart to get it out to take out the motor, make sure the bottom parts all went back in correctly and the crews holding it together are tight..
also bleeding the clutch isn't that hard... use the mitivac method and have a friend just keep pumping the clutch and brake pedal.. I just did a tranny last week and we repeated 5 times and it worked out fine...
also double and triple check all your connections as 2k5ssc stated they could be dirty and can be cleaned with contact cleaner...
well hope this helps./. g/l and keep us posted

check taht ur battery cable from the trunk is hooked up to the + lead under the hood, i had that problem as well, and it jsut turned out to be the cable was not connected, alos try hooking 12 volts directly to the post under the hood

you charged the battery on "Start" for 30 minutes?!

Thats a good way to make a homemade bomb or fire, batteries arent made to be charged with that kind of current!

Try jumping it with another vehicle

Is the switch for when you push down the clutch to start the car connected

It honestly sounds like he fragged his battery.

Standard battery chargers that have a 'start' setting run a 55amp current on 'start' and it should never be used for more than 30 seconds, as it can damage the battery and the charger. A sealed lead acid battery should never be charged at more than 10-15 amps

Upon some investigating

my crank fuse was blown, and it blows every fuse that i put in there


any ideas as to what would cause this?

I bought a new starter aswell

Upon some investigating

my crank fuse was blown, and it blows every fuse that i put in there


any ideas as to what would cause this?

I bought a new starter aswell

Short Circuit somewhere

try pop starting!

Ok after removing the PCV system sensor and the Drivetrain fuse it stopped going nuts...

any ideas?

Ok after removing the PCV system sensor and the Drivetrain fuse it stopped going nuts...

any ideas?

i would get some help with this... i don't mean to be a dick, but you're asking all these questions, and it kinda sounds like you're not 100% sure what you're doing... i would get someone that knows before you do some serious damage to your car...

Make sure you didnt pinch any of the wires anywhere:cssNET:

I know what im doing just electricaly im lost right now

Ok, here is the plan

I am going to check all grounds, sensors and wires in general

Replace the starter buy all new fuses

but first im going to bleed this dam clutch and put tranny fluid in it

I can guess you have the wires wrong to the starter... that would be the best guess there

thing is i never took the wires off the starter i just pulled it out and rested it on the lower frame

there are a few things here

my rear o2 i had to splice in im going to check that
I also forgot to d/c battery and hit starter witha wrench and it make hell of sparks

so that is my answer for those

but i have no clue why my pcv was clicking so loud

pcv or your throttle body... we had a cobalt do that this weekend and it wouldn't start or do anything... I reflashed it and it was fine.. very odd

try to reflash it

yea, make sure you didn't cut or smash any wires. both me and 06black did this with the fuel injector wires.

not this 06black....

nope, just 06black

All problems have been fixed, it now turns over just wont fire. That sleep i got last night paid off

I just have to bleed to clutch and figure out what
[PCM] P0230 - Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit (Pending) (Current) (Immature)

and howto fix it

hmm... all problems arent fixed until its running right. jk man. kudos to you on getting this far. hope you get it fired up soon.

There is no spark

hmm

There is no spark

hmm

use a test light to make sure your getting power to the module

i would check for grounds on starter circuit by working from the starter to the fuse block

wish i had a wiring diagram to offer

did you connect the ground strap from the head to the cam sensor?

^^^ That's just what I was about to say. Make sure you check that ground, and the connectors to the CDI. We're getting close and on the home stretch now!

Did you make sure the cam sensor timing was in the right postion? The sensor has to be installed with the #4 piston at TDC, and the slot inside has to be at a 45 degree angle from the front lip of the to the roof line if you were looking at it straight on from the driver's side.

no i didnt and no i didnt damit!

i also never removed the cam sensor

is the cam angle the front cam or read cam when looking at the car?

cams never came off the head, they are timed correct we made 10 revolutions of the motor while it was out

I'm not talking about the cams themselves. Check out the second pic in this link. You had the head resurfaced right? If so, they had to take the cams out to do so properly meaning the sensor had to come off. This is probably why the marks on your cams were gone when they got done with it.

Check out the link here. Read the last part about the cam sensor (on the exhaust cam) and look at the second picture. You can pull it off with the head still on the car, just make sure you're at TDC #4. Align the mark as shown, and reinstall the sensor. Also make sure you plug it in, as my car didn't start at firs because that was the one sensor I forgot to plug in.

http://www.******************/forums/219564-post1.html
^^redlineforums .com^^

Good Luck man. I hope you get it fired up. I'm going to bed as it's 11:38 here in the middle east! I'll check back in the AM hopefully to see some great news. :twothumbs

right on, i just bought 100 worth of relays to no way to test them and i kno i fired one

[PCM] P0230 - Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit (Immature)
[PCM] P1124 - Unknown (SES) (Pending) (Old) (History) (Current) (Immature)
[PCM] P1185 - Engine Oil Temperature Circuit (SES) (Pending) (Old) (History) (Current) (Immature)
[PCM] P1682 - Driver 5 Line 2 (SES) (History) (Immature)
[PCM] U2101 - Unknown (SES) (Pending) (History) (Immature)

my current CELS

i just replaced every relay in the fuse box to

holy sweet jesus get this done so i can start mine :D

[PCM] P0230 - Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit (Immature)
[PCM] P1124 - Unknown (SES) (Pending) (Old) (History) (Current) (Immature)
[PCM] P1185 - Engine Oil Temperature Circuit (SES) (Pending) (Old) (History) (Current) (Immature)
[PCM] P1682 - Driver 5 Line 2 (SES) (History) (Immature)
[PCM] U2101 - Unknown (SES) (Pending) (History) (Immature)

my current CELS

i just replaced every relay in the fuse box to
P1124 Could be a tuning error, that shouldn't be turned on. If you mean p1184 its a supercharger inlet pressure sensor high voltage (happens on twincharged and ram air setups)
P1185 Shouldn't be turned on either at least no for SES status(lol?) but thats the right DTC #
P1682 Ignition 1 Switch Circuit 2
U2101 ??? Bus error maybe? Prolly the cause of the other SESs.

not this 06black....

nope the original and bestist 06Black!

now im getting [PCM] P0335 - CKP Sensor A Circuit Performance (Old) (Current) (Immature)

your U code is definatley a class 2 data code most likely just a stored code from diconnecting anything with logic. but genrally that shows up as lost communication. it sounds like maybe a connector is not seated properly at the pcm. you might want to pin gauge the pcm connectors. to make sure none were damaged upon instalation. i believe they are micro 64 terminals which are very fragile so i would not pin gauge them unless you have the proper pin guage. although you can use a needle but its not the best idea. and i dont know anything about hptuners or what you are using to scan for these codes but with the tech 2 gm scanner you can look at the snapshot data displays for what it shows in paranthesis (history)(pending)(immature) this will show you what almost every sensor was reading at the time of failure.

[PCM] P0335 - CKP Sensor A Circuit Performance (Old) (Current) (Immature)
most likely just relearn involved for that code or the ckp sensor is not installed properly . unless like i said before its a connector issue at the pcm


i would'nt start to worry to much unless you see a crankshaft pos. sensor - camshaft pos. sensor correlation code.

[PCM] P0335 - CKP Sensor A Circuit Performance (Old) (Current) (Immature)
most likely just relearn involved for that code or the ckp sensor is not installed properly . unless like i said before its a connector issue at the pcm


i would'nt start to worry to much unless you see a crankshaft pos. sensor - camshaft pos. sensor correlation code.


I fixed this, the sensor came out about 1/2 the way screwed it back in and the cel went away

Now I am stuck with no firing

I fixed the cam angle sensor aswell

I also retorqued my spark plugs one of them was loose

The only thing i can think of is the ground on the block is not hookedup

it is right next to the cam angle sensor i cant figure out where to hook it to.

your geitng fuel and no spark rite?

if the ground on the block is not hooked up that is indefinately your problem let me go see where it goes

thank you :) i want this bad boy to fire up so bad

only problem i have is i drank to much already and my car is in storage with no good light and i have no flashlight and my cell phone would not cut it so i really cant see it but did'nt someone mention that its near the cam sensor? cause if you have no ground there you will never get spark cause you will not get a signal from the cam sensor which is an integral part of spark timing this is taking to long if you need any more assistance call my cell 1 978 726 2760 and i will do my best to talk you through this

ahhh ha found a light ok it goes from directly under the bypass valve but more towards the exhaust cam on a specific tab on the block and then right under the coil cover on the intake cam side, i will have to pull the coil cover if you need me to be more specific. i can get a picture maybe with my phone but i have no host for pics so only email or phone to phone pics from me

I figured it out

My ecu is dead

and i got that wire grounded it has a small melted spot on the black (middle) connector by what i assume is the power connector pin

that sux. it also sux that your not in Michigan around me i would loan you one of mine.

huh? how would your ecu be dead?

Maybe he means he fried it

touched it with something on accedent

what makes you think your ecu is fried? you must have some proof those things are'nt cheap. sorry but this is the mindset of a tech, cause i cant just go spending the money of my customers without proper diagnoses.

The black connector has a melted spot near the one prong that is away from all others and it smells like ass......


So i need a pcm

I can get one from intense for like 200-300 due to my gift certificates

touched it with something on accedent


yep wrench fell hit the positive terminal and ten touched the pcm

Yeah that sucks, and make sure the connector is good enough to be used again or you will have to replace that too.

pray to sweet jesus that the connector is ok becuase to get or much less replace that concector housing is a royal pain in the ass. your eyes are going to hurt for a week if you have to r&r those terminals. trust me i just did it to the bcm on a malibu ss tuesday. and of course, it was warranty and paid exactly .9 hrs and took atleast 2hrs i love flat rate warranty b.s.!!

Exactly how much of your engine did you put together? From the looks of this thread, everything you have done, you have done wrong.

I am not trying to be rude or anything, but if you don't know how to install an engine, you probably shouldn't do it. With all the money you have spent replacing parts that you don't even know are broken or not, you could have had a mechanic do the work for you and your car would be on the road and working right now.

My worry is that all the money you spent on internals could go out with a bang when and if this car ever fires up. The little problems your having now aren't critical. But if you "forgot" to tighten a head bolt, or a crank bolt like you forgot to tighten a spark plug, your going to have a serious problem on your hands and your going to be back where you started. I hope none of this happens, but I would have the ENTIRE car checked over by a licenced mechanic before you try turning it over again.

pray to sweet jesus that the connector is ok becuase to get or much less replace that concector housing is a royal pain in the ass. your eyes are going to hurt for a week if you have to r&r those terminals. trust me i just did it to the bcm on a malibu ss tuesday. and of course, it was warranty and paid exactly .9 hrs and took atleast 2hrs i love flat rate warranty b.s.!!

Yes you really really do not want to have to do this. This sucks more than anything. Had to do it on a Lincoln were I work.

I will say it now most of the shit im having problems with I didnt take off the dealership dide like the grounds and vacume hoses I labeled all my shit and installed it right


I am 100% certian my engine is sound and its my money in it

Just the PCM was an accident and the spark plug was one i used to ground test it with

I wanna see this bad boy next time im in Indy!!!!!

right now its the slowest on the site nothing special

I will say it now most of the shit im having problems with I didnt take off the dealership dide like the grounds and vacume hoses I labeled all my shit and installed it right


I am 100% certian my engine is sound and its my money in it

Just the PCM was an accident and the spark plug was one i used to ground test it with
hey I'll sell you my PCM for $300 intense dollars ;)

i dont know you so i wont question your abilities in any way. but i rly dont think you could have fried your pcm by touchin the case with pos. cable via wrench. because everything leading into it that is b+ is on a fuse as well as the pcm itself. now whatever individual wire is burnt i would check that system for a short. just beacuse that wire is torched does not mean the pcm is aswell i know you had a bet going for how much horsepower your going to make. but i will make a bet with you, that just a pcm will not fix your issue. as long as all the info you provided was correct to the best of your knowledge, however bleak that may be. not trying to be an ass but i do this shit every day and i have yet to hear of this. what was the wager 5$? take it or leave it

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??????? ^^^^^

don't be so hard on this guy, he's probably put alot of time and effort into this project. And i gurantee when the car starts up and runs like a bat out of hell he'll feel great that he did it himself.

right now its the slowest on the site nothing special
No it's not, :nono: and yours is a lot more together than mine.;)
Of course I think at this point you owe me $5. from the other thread guessing your HP.:lol:

No it's not, :nono: and yours is a lot more together than mine.;)
Of course I think at this point you owe me $5. from the other thread guessing your HP.:lol:


i KNOW you aint talkin bout the 1hp bid cause i had it first!

i KNOW you aint talkin bout the 1hp bid cause i had it first!
Nope, mine was 0 hp because of mechanic error:lol: :lol:

LOL, guys i still have time my pcm will be here saturday

I know it was the PCM Hptuners was doing some silly shit saying the throttle was at 35% while noone was on the gas and saying my a/f was like 19/1 it wouldnt read volts

My friend that was over when it happened I would put up against any mechanic hes a pure genious i argued with him and he just looked at me and said smell this, it honestly smells like shit its fried there is no argument there

LOL, guys i still have time my pcm will be here saturday

I know it was the PCM Hptuners was doing some silly shit saying the throttle was at 35% while noone was on the gas and saying my a/f was like 19/1 it wouldnt read volts

My friend that was over when it happened I would put up against any mechanic hes a pure genious i argued with him and he just looked at me and said smell this, it honestly smells like shit its fried there is no argument there

how the hell do you fry the PCM?.....i gotta hear this.


BTW....dam good work son....dam good.

steel wrench from battery terminal to the top of PCM

and it sat for about 60 seconds while i ran to get it

steel wrench from battery terminal to the top of PCM

and it sat for about 60 seconds while i ran to get it

ohhhh okok...roger that.

Man, that PCM frying sucks! After sparking on the starter, now I make sure all wrenches are clear of the engine compartment before I even connect the battery. Hopefully she'll fire up now without a hitch after you get the new PCM. You'll probably have to perform a new CASE learn on it first though.

BooSSted, man why are you being so negative here? The engine is mechanical, and it's not that hard to figure out especially if you have a guide to follow like we do. Take it apart, and put it back together in the reverse order. The electrical system on a car is a little more difficult, and trying to trace out a single problem is not as easy. I personally think bdwarr06 is doing a great job. He has just run into a few snags as many engine builders do with the electrical systems. Hell, he's got it all done up to this point, so I would say he has to be quite competent and probably quite tired by now. I think we are all trying to help a fellow member out here, so lets be postive and support him. :cssNET:

I will be the first to say that I hope this car starts after a new PCM. Keep us posted.

I will be the first to say that I hope this car starts after a new PCM. Keep us posted.
I am sure that with all our kidding aside, 99% of us are hoping the car starts and runs great. :cssNET:

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a clean and smooth startup. :twothumbs I'm sure on the PCM gets in, all will be fine!

Don't forget to make sure you have the battery disconnected before you install it this time though! And put your wrenches back in the tool box! :lol:

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a clean and smooth startup. :twothumbs I'm sure on the PCM gets in, all will be fine!

Don't forget to make sure you have the battery disconnected before you install it this time though! And put your wrenches back in the tool box! :lol:
I second that.

I second that.

I third that :cssNET:

damn!!......I'm taking my battery out of the car right now.....I Don't need these headaches! Dude I hope the PCM is the only problem....I want to know when it turns over. i get excited everytime I get on CSS.net and hope that it fired over! My head will come out this weekend so I'll be able to see the extent of the damage.

update!?

update!?

His PCM got owned, so he's waiting on a new one

Smoked up in a bad way. What was the eta on a new ecu?

tomorrow hopefully

don't be so hard on this guy, he's probably put alot of time and effort into this project. And i gurantee when the car starts up and runs like a bat out of hell he'll feel great that he did it himself.


ive got 200+ hours in

I have seriously worked on it 14-16 hours a day for almost a month

I know 5 ways not to get the motor out the top and one way to :)

I bet I could do this from start to finish in 10-20 hours now though

Please everyone pray for my car and my ecu to arrive tomorrow, I really need it done!!!!

and wouldnt mind being able to drive again LOL

^^ :lol: That's the first time I've been asked to pray for a car, but I will if you want me to I will. :twothumbs

shit i pray nightly for my car

shit i pray nightly for my car

We all will goto church and pray that your car will be done ASAP ;)
Your gonna be soo happy when you drive your car!!

i know ive got about 5-10 local cobalts that are pissing me off and making a bad name i worked so hard to establish

I put up with so much shit to show this car has potential when they were rare in 2k5 now that everyone and there mother has them here they go out stock and act stupid

I hate people like that man. Same shit here where all the stock cobalt ss s/c do "ricer" shit then everyone thinks badly about me. But a lot of people know whats done to my car and are scared to race me :).

lol i dont have anyone scared of me, indy is honestly nuts

I know of about 200 cars over 500 hp here all street driven and i know there must be more

I just get respect which is all i ever wanted

I just get respect which is all i ever wanted

Thats what i meant to say. I just said it really different lol

Not really related to this thread, but I do hope you get runnin and able to dyno your car by the 21st. I have a quick question- What is in our trunk by the spare tire? It looks like a second battery to me.

its the only battery ...we only have one.


good luck with your car and i hope you get it all done without anymore snags

Yeah, I hear you about people rocking stock Cobalt SS Superchargeds and Redlines and making a bad reputation for us that work so hard on our cars. My buddies thought the car was slow because there was this idiot running around Charleston that couldn't drive worth a damn and was getting smoked by easy kills. I got in my car and showed some people the car meant business and earned my street cred. Then the ones I lost to, I went back a rechallenged after I got my mods, and beat most of them earning more street cred. Since I do all my own work like you have, it feels a lot better too after all is said and done.

its the only battery ...we only have one.


good luck with your car and i hope you get it all done without anymore snags

Well then, what is next to my motor that looks like a battery to with terminals on it?

it is the only battery, there is a power line run to the front engine compartment

the battery terminal up there just sits on 2 power cables

Yeah, I hear you about people rocking stock Cobalt SS Superchargeds and Redlines and making a bad reputation for us that work so hard on our cars. My buddies thought the car was slow because there was this idiot running around Charleston that couldn't drive worth a damn and was getting smoked by easy kills. I got in my car and showed some people the car meant business and earned my street cred. Then the ones I lost to, I went back a rechallenged after I got my mods, and beat most of them earning more street cred. Since I do all my own work like you have, it feels a lot better too after all is said and done.


i let rob do the 42lbers and 2.8 it was fun

i did the rest and i could care less what i beat i just enjoy the rush now knowing its my work and my sweat im playing with

amen...i pray for you...

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Good luck, hope everything works, I did help my friend change the tranny on his 98 Z24 and that was a bitch..... getting it to line up.... How are you making out anyways?? Im too lazy to read all 12 pages....

I gotta say I love you sig, Bdwarr6. You found that magical angel that just picks up every thing that is so ungodly gorgeous about the SS! GL getting the car rolling again! :twothumbs

dose it live? i realy hope everything goes good. and your is gona hall azz when its all said and done.

Its not done yet, I am actually about to go check the mail for my pcm.

Wish me luck

it came!!! ust i missed postal guy

SO i have to goto the postal place and try to catch the guy before he clocks out otherwise i have to wait till monday

SO i have to goto the postal place and try to catch the guy before he clocks out otherwise i have to wait till monday

HURRY!! good luck! lol :lol:

Well then, what is next to my motor that looks like a battery to with terminals on it?

Its a fuse box and jump starting location (GM says so anyways...I've heard of people hurting their electrical systems jumping from here)

bdwarr, good luck! Its always cool to see a motor come back to life!

Did you forget to leave a note by the door?

yes i did, so now i have to wait on my mother to come get me and take me to the post office, no car sucks but making payments on a non running car is worse

Shit, I'd be running to the post office if it was within a 5 or so miles! I'm not joking either! I hope you get it!

was hopin to have some good news by the end of the day @ work i'll just have to check when i'm home

Shit, I'd be running to the post office if it was within a 5 or so miles! I'm not joking either! I hope you get it!


its 20 or so miles away i called them every 15 minutes till the driver showed up and oh yea i waited in the lobby for an hour and a half
I GOT IT THOUGH


the more i think of some of the things i have done the sadder i think this is, oh well

im happy with my car even though its on jackstands, doesntrun, has a dent in the hood, and oh yea has a huge penis drawn in the dust from my buddies, my trunk lid has SS spelled out inanimal crackers on it

I gotta say I love you sig, Bdwarr6. You found that magical angel that just picks up every thing that is so ungodly gorgeous about the SS! GL getting the car rolling again! :twothumbs


if you want one just pm me your car color and w/e you want in it ill be happy to make you one

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my buddies took my hp tuners cable so im fucked till they return it im pissed

my buddies took my hp tuners cable so im fucked till they return it im pissed
fuck them get ur cable back

we wanna see this car up and running

What the fuck.. Who takes a cable?

Half your problems you cause yourself.

It would have been in and runng a week ago if it wasn't for the shitty fuckups..

gah! i wanna see it run!

What's the deal? Is she running yet or what? If you're still waiting on that cable I'd be making some calls, taking names, and kicking asses!

What the fuck.. Who takes a cable?

Half your problems you cause yourself.

It would have been in and runng a week ago if it wasn't for the shitty fuckups..
thanks brian... im sorry i share my toys and honestly who cares if i screwed up, bothing is broke i gave learned alot and im totally toasted

bd wanna inform me how much you have paid for pistons, head gasket, jsut overall build im just sorta curious, im hoping to get some stuff going for myself as well here soon, i foudn a guy whos gonna my head for a wicked price so :D:D:D. btu i man as well do the bottom end while im at it :D

thanks brian... im sorry i share my toys and honestly who cares if i screwed up, bothing is broke i gave learned alot and im totally toasted


I was being a bit harsh. You did learn it's true..

But it sounds like you are rushing and not thinking.

Get a white board next time.
Get a digital camera next time.

Take pictures of every part of the engine. Every Connection and hose.

Put in order the steps you have to do to make it run..

Ie.

Clean Head and Block Surfaces
Install Head Studs
Place Head Gasket (Correct Face Up)
Initial Torque Head in Outward Pattern to 20 Ft/Lb
Install Head to 80 Ft/Lb In Outward Patten
Time Motor so that crank is TDC Intake Cam sits 90 Deg Ex Cam Sits 270 Deg
Tension Chain and rotate assembly (Crank) by hand Clockwise (Twice) to check timing.

Etc.. Etc..

You wasted so much time and money by being sloppy... If you worked in a garage and did this, you would be fired and blacklisted in your city.