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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Hey nothing wrong with the Hahn stuff I love it. Yea might have spent a little more than others but hey. I was representing an Illinois based company. Chi town all the way. Hahn never gave me a problem and I got a bad ass deal for buying all three at once. What ever floats your boat right. Just like how when I see the dyne numbers I'm getting this stage 1 turbo
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Just think if you didn't overpay for all that Hahn stuff, you could've probably had enough.
Hate to say it but Hahn was the FIRST company that was actually able to nail an intake for our cars with out throwing STFT and LTFT way out of wack. I have hahn everything on my car and i paid top dollar. I also got THE best of THE Best.

Other tuner garages still have yet to get an intake that comes even close to the quality that hahn has done. With the exception of MAYBE the K&N and MAYBE the revised Injen, regardless Hahn was still the 1st.

Were sorry that we choose to spend our money of High Quality items such as Hahn. I have never read on this site about anyone complaining about the craftsmanship of anything that Hahn has put out. Only about their prices.

But its like saying "I want a Borla exhaust for my v-8 but damn its expensive". Nothing beats the sound or quality of a Borla. Same with Hahn.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gdubs
Hate to say it but Hahn was the FIRST company that was actually able to nail an intake for our cars with out throwing STFT and LTFT way out of wack. I have hahn everything on my car and i paid top dollar. I also got THE best of THE Best.

Other tuner garages still have yet to get an intake that comes even close to the quality that hahn has done. With the exception of MAYBE the K&N and MAYBE the revised Injen, regardless Hahn was still the 1st.

Were sorry that we choose to spend our money of High Quality items such as Hahn. I have never read on this site about anyone complaining about the craftsmanship of anything that Hahn has put out. Only about their prices.

But its like saying "I want a Borla exhaust for my v-8 but damn its expensive". Nothing beats the sound or quality of a Borla. Same with Hahn.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to get something that's worth buying. I'm still waiting for a retune from trifecta to unleash all this **** and it seems like when I want to fly past anyone in second I can just break the tires loose.. Just think when I retune.. Can't wait. But will see about the turbo before retune
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxercobaltdriver
I'm glad I'm not the only one to get something that's worth buying. I'm still waiting for a retune from trifecta to unleash all this **** and it seems like when I want to fly past anyone in second I can just break the tires loose.. Just think when I retune.. Can't wait. But will see about the turbo before retune
I spin all the way through 3rd if i nail it right
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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*facepalm* hahns intake isn't spot on.. goto the intake thread..there are many other intakes that are closer not to mention the issues it had when it came out that took forever to fix

their FMIC is too large and not optimized for flow of the stock turbo, their CP is no different then anyone elses neither is their DP and they're both more expensive.. i've said it before i'll say it again.. price is the perception of quality
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gdubs
Hate to say it but Hahn was the FIRST company that was actually able to nail an intake for our cars with out throwing STFT and LTFT way out of wack. I have hahn everything on my car and i paid top dollar. I also got THE best of THE Best.

Other tuner garages still have yet to get an intake that comes even close to the quality that hahn has done. With the exception of MAYBE the K&N and MAYBE the revised Injen, regardless Hahn was still the 1st.

Were sorry that we choose to spend our money of High Quality items such as Hahn. I have never read on this site about anyone complaining about the craftsmanship of anything that Hahn has put out. Only about their prices.

But its like saying "I want a Borla exhaust for my v-8 but damn its expensive". Nothing beats the sound or quality of a Borla. Same with Hahn.
hahn intake still throws your fuel trims out of whack you have to tune to get them back in line. i think the only intake mod that dosnt mess with your fuel trims too much is ZZP's intake mod
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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I like the K&N intake
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gdubs
I spin all the way through 3rd if i nail it right
I call b.s. I have the almost the exact same mods (not hahn tho) and more and I don't spin in 3rd. Not even at the beginning of third, except for maybe a little chirp. I can spin all the way through 2nd, but not 3rd. (mad torque steer in 3rd, torque steer makes me feel alive!)

Are you really saying that you can spin you tires all the way up to 100mph? Unless you have the worst tires ever I really doubt it. I'd love for you to prove me wrong though...take a vid and prove it!
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Just got an email looks to be that there having clearance issues guys:



As some of you know I have shipped out a hand full of these stage 2 units.

I have one customer that is in the middle of installation of the stage 2 and has some minor clearance issues. We talked about it and we have come to the conclusion that we will need a spacer made to bring the turbocharger out 1/4". I want this to be a pain free installation with minimal fabrication while keeping stock heat shields. So next week I will make a CAD drawing of the exhaust manifold flange, have it cut out of steel and then order gaskets from GM. I will send the flanges, gaskets and water line kits out to the 5 purchasers of the stage 2 units. Also I will type out instructions on assembly of the spacer and water line adaptation. Also will get you pictures of the assembly process to make it easy for everyone.

Also the purchasers will need to flip the wastegate actuator around 180 degrees since the frame rail is finger width away from the wastegate actuator barb. The pictures will show how the actuator needs to be set up. Any of the purchasers can call me if they need help rotating the actuator.

Instead of the turbocharger being $1150, I'll have to bump it up to $1200 for all the hardware costs.

Here are the pictures of the stage 2!

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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To the two of you getting defensive about my comment, I was not saying that their parts are garbage just real expensive. If you want to pay for their stuff that's up to you, I'm not here to judge anyone.

Now back on topic, an extra $50 is still not bad for the work he's doing.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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What is considered stage 2 now? gt2871 chra or 2860?
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jb09ss
What is considered stage 2 now? gt2871 chra or 2860?
Stage 1 is a gt2860
Stage 2 is a gt2871
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Hey I'm not getting defensive but we r talking about the turbo on this thread and want the stage 1.... Waiting fir the dyno numbers before purchase. If 350whp is an easy gain than I'm down hopefully 400whp almost maxes out is fine with me. Hey quick question anyone do put metal sides on the intercooler. Will the stock intercooler with the metal sides fabed up a good way to go? Heard that doing this would be a decent upgrade to make the stock ic work better
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxercobaltdriver
Hey I'm not getting defensive but we r talking about the turbo on this thread and want the stage 1.... Waiting fir the dyno numbers before purchase. If 350whp is an easy gain than I'm down hopefully 400whp almost maxes out is fine with me. Hey quick question anyone do put metal sides on the intercooler. Will the stock intercooler with the metal sides fabed up a good way to go? Heard that doing this would be a decent upgrade to make the stock ic work better
Should be *interesting*...I don't think stage 1 will make it to 350WHP. More reliable...could be... less boost..good thing. Thing is, a lot of people are making close to 350 WHP already with stock turbo. So, the merits of stage 1 may not be the best choice here.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Im no genius, but if you runs same idea of tune and psi and all that the bigger guts gotta push more air.
so it has to make more power.....

I"m no genius

Im just sayin
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 09SS
Stage 1 is a gt2860
Stage 2 is a gt2871
Could of swore stage 2 was still the gt2860 but with a higher flowing compressor cover, stage 3 is the big boy gt2871 and stage 1 is stock cover + gt2860.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by peachpuff
Could of swore stage 2 was still the gt2860 but with a higher flowing compressor cover, stage 3 is the big boy gt2871 and stage 1 is stock cover + gt2860.
It was. They decided it was not worth it to screw around with the housing so they dropped it.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 01:21 AM
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Should be *interesting*...I don't think stage 1 will make it to 350WHP. More reliable...could be... less boost..good thing. Thing is, a lot of people are making close to 350 WHP already with stock turbo. So, the merits of stage 1 may not be the best choice here.
Who is making 350whp on stock turbo??? Won't you need then with the stage 2 GT2871R need to up the fuel OSI in order to run smoother after 400hp? I'm sure the turbo is capable of making that and then some, but what about fueling after???
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Who is making 350whp on stock turbo??? Won't you need then with the stage 2 GT2871R need to up the fuel OSI in order to run smoother after 400hp? I'm sure the turbo is capable of making that and then some, but what about fueling after???
There are a few who are making over 350 whp on the stock turbo. Heck I made almost 350 whp without meth or E-85.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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I see the stage 1 as a great option for those wanting to make 350-60 reliably. Maxing out the K04 to make that power without E or meth just means probs down the line.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cubaniche
I see the stage 1 as a great option for those wanting to make 350-60 reliably. Maxing out the K04 to make that power without E or meth just means probs down the line.
Maybe but BW makes one heck of a tough turbo IMHO. AT 30K tuned miles I have no shaft play on the turbo no oil usage no issues at all.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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There are a few who are making over 350 whp on the stock turbo. Heck I made almost 350 whp without meth or E-85.
yayyyy for happy high reading dynos.. In the real world 350whp on the stock turbo (with no meth, no race fuel, or some sort of high ethenol mix) on a realistic reading dyno aint happening. Even with godly tuning magic...

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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Is the spacer going to keep with the dual scroll design or is it not enough distance to matter?
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Who is making 350whp on stock turbo??? Won't you need then with the stage 2 GT2871R need to up the fuel OSI in order to run smoother after 400hp? I'm sure the turbo is capable of making that and then some, but what about fueling after???
Read my post again..I said making *CLOSE to 350WHP*... 335 -345 area would be in that range.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Who is making 350whp on stock turbo??? Won't you need then with the stage 2 GT2871R need to up the fuel OSI in order to run smoother after 400hp? I'm sure the turbo is capable of making that and then some, but what about fueling after???
im making 351whp and 393wtq and on a slipping clutch. look at terminators sig he has a link to my dyno graph
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