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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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Yup that's a great example you don't need to upgrade ^ but if you want alot more than that then upgrading wouldn't be a bad idea
How do you want a lot more? Unless you're silly like me
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 04:55 AM
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Oh, and to the OP- ZZP uses HP Tuners and adjusts your tune for free if it is necessary. Our tune is by far the best value out there.
thats a good deal, I didnt know you guys were willing to adjust tunes. When I hear canned tunes, I think they are "as is" but this is good to know in the future.
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 04:56 AM
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I got a "canned" zzp pcm tune last week on my stock 09 cobalt ss/tc lnf and holy ****, it's like night and day now. Before I was only boosting to 18psi max and now I'm hitting 25+psi and can do a burnout in 2nd and 3rd gear. I didn't think the tune would be that aggressive. I'm literally bone stock besides a drop in k&n filter. I guess these LNFs can make some freaking power. My next purchase is gonna be projector headlights with halos.
Why yes, yes they can
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 04:57 AM
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My hater comment is based on all the people that jump in and say there's no way you are spinning your tires, it must be your clutch, you must have crappy tires, etc...
And I am certain the tires are crappy. I think he mentioned the car only has 6k miles. Meaning hes on the stock junk tires.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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I have their canned tune and I'll spin 2nd after 4K and then 3rd just grabs all day. 1st gear is still useless and you have to really pedal it, even with reduced boost. I have new DZ101s at 29psi upfront.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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I have their canned tune and I'll spin 2nd after 4K and then 3rd just grabs all day. 1st gear is still useless and you have to really pedal it, even with reduced boost. I have new DZ101s at 29psi upfront.
Yeah I can't get traction from the start at all if I'm racing somebody, I'll spin a little in 2nd then 3rd just goes and goes. I think these cars just suck from the starting line, at least mine does lol
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Yeah I can't get traction from the start at all if I'm racing somebody, I'll spin a little in 2nd then 3rd just goes and goes. I think these cars just suck from the starting line, at least mine does lol
I can launch pretty well and i have a 7163 on nt01s
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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I can launch pretty well and i have a 7163 on nt01s

I'm still a little bit of a noob when it comes to these cars but what is a 7163?
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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I'm still a little bit of a noob when it comes to these cars but what is a 7163?
The bigger ZFR
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 09:52 PM
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Bigger turbo lol since zfr might not help either
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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Bigger turbo lol since zfr might not help either
Enough to do a search on the youtube
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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Lol I know but he could of put 7163 on google and something would of come out
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Snail_SS
Lol I know but he could of put 7163 on google and something would of come out
Maybe a vid or 2 of a white car 😉
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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Lol exactly
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Snail_SS
Bigger turbo lol since zfr might not help either
I know what it is. Its the turbo upgrade from zzp
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TedSS
I know what it is. Its the turbo upgrade from zzp
Yup a beauty
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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Exactly I want it looking far away atm tho
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Old Apr 23, 2016 | 10:02 AM
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I know this is bringing up an old thread, but has anyone run the ZZP 1.0 tune on stock MAP sensors? I know they suggest the GMS1 sensors but I was wondering if they are absolutely neccesary?
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Old Apr 23, 2016 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sjss
I know this is bringing up an old thread, but has anyone run the ZZP 1.0 tune on stock MAP sensors? I know they suggest the GMS1 sensors but I was wondering if they are absolutely neccesary?
I've been running the zzp tuned pcm on stock sensors since last summer and I've had absolutely no problems. The only thing I might see not being accurate is the boost gauge when you get into high boost. Hope this helps.

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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Intercooler/charge pipes are not needed for stock turbo. Only time is upgrade is IF your stocker breaks or if you go bigger turbo. Some people cry you need them for reliability but its rare to bust the stock charge piping and the stock IC is overkill for this car, unless you smash it on something then might aswell go after market since price will be similar to stocker.
I don't agree at all, the plastic charge pipes and plastic end tanks on the stock parts tend to be a weak point. Especially since even the newest SS you can get is 6 years old at this point, the plastic degrades and gets brittle.

Add more boost to brittle plastic = Pop. I see stock piping pop all the time at anything near 24psi.

Plus what KMO said. Flow is much better and I assume temps will be much better on a new intercooler. Worth the money to upgrade.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 03:16 PM
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I know this is bringing up an old thread, but has anyone run the ZZP 1.0 tune on stock MAP sensors? I know they suggest the GMS1 sensors but I was wondering if they are absolutely neccesary?
My tuner actually prefers the stock sensors to tune because there are so many way to control boost in our application and the stock sensors I believe read to 23.5psi. Which is plenty. Should never go over 24psi in my opinion but that's because I like my rings to stay intact and anything over that the K04 is blowing hot air.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 04:07 PM
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This doesn't seem right. I don't know exactly how these sensors work as far as voltage range, but fundamentally the MAP sensor outputs a voltage for a corresponding pressure input. I'd think that if you have the same pressure input the voltage output would be different for the two sensors. Meaning the tune would need to know which sensors are giving it info. It may be low enough of a delta that it's not very noticeable, and if the PCM thinks there's more air than actual you're just going to run rich or have more trim. Again, I'm not experienced so I could be wrong.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 04:41 PM
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This doesn't seem right. I don't know exactly how these sensors work as far as voltage range, but fundamentally the MAP sensor outputs a voltage for a corresponding pressure input. I'd think that if you have the same pressure input the voltage output would be different for the two sensors. Meaning the tune would need to know which sensors are giving it info. It may be low enough of a delta that it's not very noticeable, and if the PCM thinks there's more air than actual you're just going to run rich or have more trim. Again, I'm not experienced so I could be wrong.
You would need a retune if you switched sensors.

Off-topic: Did you change your name?
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 04:45 PM
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When you order their tune you tell them which sensors your running and they adjust the tune accordingly.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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You would need a retune if you switched sensors.

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Yes I did! Good catch!

Do they have the option of stock sensors vs 3bar? As long as it's specified then i'm not sure why there'd be any issues.

NEVERMIND, i just read the post above. The question made it seem like he was asking/suggesting running the same tune with either sensor.
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