agreed

from what i've read on this site. the MS3's are sick when modded (a big aftermarket already) and are only in the 23,000 range. sometimes GM makes me go

 

Yeh, they might be sick, but 1) its a wagon and 2) it weighs around 3350 lbs, thats 400 more than the T/C
When there is a big aftermarket for the LNF Cobalt MS3s will get smoked. Although stock the T/C should beat a stock MS3.

 

Ha Ha! How true!

I think Ms3's are beautiful station wagons ...

That's why they need the extra hp/trqe, and why a 245hp St. 2 SC is as fast as an Ms3 (and you still have a couple of extra grand left over in your pocket to boot!).

The T/C will shut down the Ms3.

Mazda's gonna have to up the ante some to compete with the T/C ...

 

260 stock 290stage 2

30hp upgrade

 

dont think so about the smokin the ms3...mazda has shorty gear ratio's which are good for highway racing,same power,more trq,and a REAL LSD...i can't wait for road and track and all the other companies out there to compare the srt4 vs ms3 vs ss/tc...the cobalt will loose so bad

and mazda...uhmm boost controller will do the trick and a full exhaust and u got 300+hp

also remember the cobalts internals are weak..330hp and BOOM,where mazda is 450hp

 

quick, somebody get laloosh in here!!!

 

You are on crack...

no...just...no...take your ricer math elsewhere...

 

hahaha,i so agree with u..so let me think how he thinks...a s2 cobalt with full exhaust would loose to a stock ss/tc?

 

Eh, it would be close


SS/TC has the 3.83 final drive and on a rwd platform the LNF puts 240 to the wheels which is stock S2.

Well it was on the same dyno anyways.

S2 with exhaust were about 247 or something...S2 full exhaust wins, but not by much