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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by restonSS
ok, im not trying to start a war here, but im just asking how you got to that conclusion. how do you think a cobalt could make up for a 200whp difference? the 600lb difference in weight will not be enough to overcome that, plus once youre moving the weight difference doesnt mean much. that just seems a bit off bc 200whp is a HUGE difference.
hey i'm not either i'm just saying lol. you figure i have a verified timeslip on a 620hp cobra, and it is running a 10.9, take away 120hp, whats it running, 11.5-11.9's probably? idk i dont have a timeslip for that so i'm just educated guessing. but cobalts are running 12's with just a tune and such, and from a roll you eliminate the launch and shave a lot of time off of what would be at the track, time spinning, bad launching, and all that, that is still netting 12's. pulling a car or two is a few tenths shaved off a 1/4 so it's not too unrealistic.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
hey i'm not either i'm just saying lol. you figure i have a verified timeslip on a 620hp cobra, and it is running a 10.9, take away 120hp, whats it running, 11.5-11.9's probably? idk i dont have a timeslip for that so i'm just educated guessing. but cobalts are running 12's with just a tune and such, and from a roll you eliminate the launch and shave a lot of time off of what would be at the track, time spinning, bad launching, and all that, that is still netting 12's.
that's why i wouldn't call bs off the bat lol.
i got that much, but you also have to remember that the cobalts that are netting 12's, which is still very few (like 8 maybe) by ralliartists thread, are using slicks. at best without slicks the best time was a 12.6x.

i just did a quick search on youtube and cobras with roughly 500whp net traps of 122-124mph most cosistently. some are higher and a few are lower, but i just took the average. i dont know of any slips on here that are over 120mph traps. correct me if im wrong.

*i just want to make clear im not bashing cobalts here, just having a good solid conversation.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by restonSS
i got that much, but you also have to remember that the cobalts that are netting 12's, which is still very few (like 8 maybe) by ralliartists thread, are using slicks. at best without slicks the best time was a 12.6x.

i just did a quick search on youtube and cobras with roughly 500whp net traps of 122-124mph most cosistently. some are higher and a few are lower, but i just took the average. i dont know of any slips on here that are over 120mph traps. correct me if im wrong.

*i just want to make clear im not bashing cobalts here, just having a good solid conversation.
yeah slicks don't really matter on a roll though. it wasn't my run he can explain himself i just came in to say that the cobra in the video posted in this thread is obv lying.
the other guy he can speak for himself, but like i said i don't see it being TOO far fetched depending on driver and whether the kid is exaggerating a 2 car pull for a 1. too many variables with no video = fail.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Or maybe the guy in the cobra exagerated the power he's laying down? Hard to say, but all I heard when I raced this guy was the whine of his super charger. Couldn't even really hear his exaust. Maybe he was already heat soaked to hell? Maybe the 5k+ elevation was raping him? Who knows. But I do know he only took me by a car in 1/4 mile pull.

btw, skip jones was hitting 12's on the stock conti's :P
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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a 1/4 mile roll? lmfao. do you realize how fast a 1/4 mile goes by from a roll? a 1/4 mile would pass before you even get halfway through 3rd probably. now you are making your story less believable...
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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MPH doesn't always mean a better 1/4 mile time. After my turbo swap when I was still having some issues, I ran a 14.1@123 on my setup. That's as fast as a cobra mph wise, but it was too slow to build the initial momentum. Cobalts with the smaller turbo have EXCELLENT low and mid range power. I know every time I run a cobalt with the stock turbo and a tune, it will have me all the way till about 1/2 way through 3rd for me. So I could see the Cobalt keeping up with the cobra. I've learned that when dealing with front wheel drive cars as drag cars, whatever they run on the strip, take 1 second off of that and that is roughly the speed of the car they will keep up with from a roll. So if the Cobalt is running low 13's, an un tuned cobra would be running low 12's high 11's, thus the race would be kinda close.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
no tune he shouldn't have pulled that bad lol idk
ik theres one here with a kb upgrade and all the supports putting down mid 600's and he runs high 10s...

edit. it's whippled @ 620rwhp/590rwtq. 10.97 @ 127mph

i think that mustang was lying a lil unless op can't drive lol.
You do realize there are stock (ported) blower 03/04 Cobra's in the bottom-mid 10's.. Right?

10.90's @ 127mph just goes to show the person either A. wasn't able to hook or B. Can't drive

Also, a pullied/supporting bolt ons Cobra is going to RAPE a 300whp+ SS/TC. Stop looking at the weight difference and peak numbers. The Cobra has more torque off idle than a full bolt on LNF does, on race gas/full tilt. Couple the stump pulling torque with the fact that the HP is going to be VASTLY superior, everywhere in the power band but it also doesn't fall off.

I speak from experience here. My Sedan is plenty capable and my brothers pullied/bolt on/ *tuned* Zinc Yellow 03 would make me look silly.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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The Terminators are the ****. I wish I could have kept mine, but hard financial times are what they are.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by T-Man
You do realize there are stock (ported) blower 03/04 Cobra's in the bottom-mid 10's.. Right?

10.90's @ 127mph just goes to show the person either A. wasn't able to hook or B. Can't drive

Also, a pullied/supporting bolt ons Cobra is going to RAPE a 300whp+ SS/TC. Stop looking at the weight difference and peak numbers. The Cobra has more torque off idle than a full bolt on LNF does, on race gas/full tilt. Couple the stump pulling torque with the fact that the HP is going to be VASTLY superior, everywhere in the power band but it also doesn't fall off.

I speak from experience here. My Sedan is plenty capable and my brothers pullied/bolt on/ *tuned* Zinc Yellow 03 would make me look silly.
Uh ok....It's pretty much neither he needs a solid rear.....stock ported blower is very vague. That could be every supporting mod known to man and a stock blower. Big whoop.
Who said anything about weight differences? I sure didn't. But if this cobra was pulleyd with no tune there's no way in hell it shoulda pulled like that.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Dude, whatever you say. We ran till the end of 3rd gear, that's what I hit anyway. I know what I saw. Maybe the guy was just lying? Whatever, be an ass somewhere else.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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ok now i know im going to get beat on this one but what do i need to beat or even stay even with him not on the track eather. my mods are a trifecta tune 25psi injen charge pipe and zzp catless dp. my ss is a 4dr. his mods pully cat back and UNTUNED
just looking for some insite
Did you say "eat her" ??? Youre sick man! lol

Originally Posted by Willis08tc
Who cares i say do it, those cars are wicked fast.If he duz beat you, it wont be my much and make the guy feel stoopid cuz he almost lost to a cobalt.There is no better feeling than that imo.
Other than....hmm I dunno....actually beating him!

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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80vetteL82
Did you say "eat her" ??? Youre sick man! lol



Other than....hmm I dunno....actually beating him!
True that.. Just the dumbfounded look on peoples faces is priceless.
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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this thread is full of lol
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gtsr100
ok now i know im going to get beat on this one but what do i need to beat or even stay even with him not on the track eather. my mods are a trifecta tune 25psi injen charge pipe and zzp catless dp. my ss is a 4dr. his mods pully cat back and UNTUNED
just looking for some insite
If he keeps running that thing hard with a pulley and no tune he is going to blow it up so it is not going to matter LOL.
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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Just thought i wood post a cobra story , first off these cars are insane end of story.My former boss had an 03 cobra. He had a pulley intake full exhaust and like a sct or jet chip sumthin like that, it went high11s on slicks. I love my turbalt but if i ever run across 1 for the rite price, im jumpin ship.These cars are like the 2jz supras, very minor mods and ur insane fast.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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I have a special spot in my heart for Terminator Cobras and SVOs. Side sorry, I had the money in my hands for a mint 86 SVO and the sommmabitch dealer had JUST sold it. Sigh.
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