drove a ss/tc today. when i say that stage 2 guys are screwed. i mean just that.
if someone knows how to drive the tc cars. you will get walked. however. if the guy doesn't have a clue how to drive the tc. it will be a half ass drivers race.


im used to my car, no lag.

handling is softer than mine, quiet ass car. hit the tc button twice and threw it into comp mode. found a lil side street and gave it hell. the no lift shift thing is cool. i feel sorry for the clutch though. the clutch is softer than the sc cars. shifter is a tad shorter.

ran first up to 3k, and roll into it. foot glued to the floor, hammered second, revlimiter. doh! hammered third. brakes work alright i guess. they are nice cars, i just prefer the fun of mine. im spoiled by the 8k rpm fun

now i know what turbo lag feels like. again. there is a lot of room for improvement with the stock tune file in those things.

 

I honestly didn't think it felt that fast. *shrugs* Maybe I drove a dud, lol.

 

hmm what makes anybody think that someone with a stage2 can beat a tc? 260hp and 260 compared to 240ish and 215ish tq

 

who knows i still like the sound of the sc better though

 

do a little more reading on the numbers your quoting and you might understand.

 

obviously you haven't been paying attention to the forums at all.

260 and 260 is flywheel rated. Roughly 215ish give or take a few to the wheels.

the 240 and 215 is whp. BUT, I'm willing to bet the tc puts down more than 215 and we all already know not many stage 2 cars laydown 240 with that crap gm tune.

the tc should be faster than a stage 2 ss s/c. But I'm willing to bet driver error will play a big part of it.

 

Because stage 2 guys are getting 240 WHP, while SS/TC is rated at 260 BHP.

Just sayin'.

 

the 240 stage 2 is NOT to the tires.

 

Well everything Area posts I trust. He has a lot of knowledge. Now I really have to test drive one of these to see how it stacks up against a non-stock stage 2. If a bone stock ss/tc will walk my 2.9" bolt-on set up I will be very impressed.

I called my local dealer, no ss/tc yet. When they do I will test drive one and give my .02.

Thanks but no thanks Area... good info, but now I'm pissed if one will beat me..

 

there have been numerous S2 cars between 230-250 at the wheels man...

 

lol, good luck brian, let us know when you race one!

 

magic dyno's do not state exactness of numbers.

hell some guy on here claims 266 from a stage 2.

yet a 2.5 car did 253 with meth {lsjwannabe}

the 4 stage 2 cars i dynoed last dummer were all within 2-3 hp before i jumped in with the laptop.

the highest was 226 to the tire, and 197 ft lbs.



these stage 2 numbers were all done on the same dyno, maybe 10 degree difference in temps through out the day.

 

QFT!

 

and for some reason your dyno is the only correct one?

come now, you of all people know that dynos are just numbers.
why is yours right and the rest are wrong?

 

When warranties run out, I imagine stage 2 will be obsolete. People will be going to TVS, Rebel, or even twincharge.

 

this sounds about right. hence why I can pull pretty decent on a stage 2 car. I actually put down more than that in both areas.

 

I will just be happy when I can afford a stage 2. had the car for a full year now with stock everything

 

hey man, not a damn thing wrong with the ss s/c stock. decently quick and great gas mileage. Good looking car too. What more can you ask for?

 

Running stock here too.. I like it though I want two more doors. Dagnabit!

 

Cooling?

 

I trap almost 104 w/ stg 2 and exhaust. Id like to see someone drive the tc better than MT with a 102 trap and 13.9. my car shouldnt have a problem with an ss/tc. i wont get walked.

and i am in florida, one of the slowest states.

 

i dyno'd 242 hp 224 tq with stage 2 and intake and pacesetters header

 

true true, added cooling adds quite a bit to the top end.

headers are playing a big part into your numbers. opening up the exhaust on these cars shows quite the impressive gain.

104 is definitely healthy.

 

its the header stock cat and catback

 

yea, but the stock header is the most restrictive part of the stock exhaust system. It's been proven. Just look at your stock header, the ports are tiny! Header and downpipe are my next set of mods. along with MORE COOLING! lol.