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he can send me the tune via email, and ill get a local shop with hp tuners to load it in my car on the spare ecu, and then they can change the afr if need be
Yep. But do I want to see what that SC tuner does to the DALs, MALT and Lambda. Cam angles are likely stock and so are the timing tables. Probably still has torque management left in there too. I am probably going to have to fix his MAF calibration table too as it seems the Hahn intakes show less airflow than actual. Hence those who have logged their Hahn intake are seeing very positive LTFTs.
I doubt that for 2 reasons.
#1 - people who buy handhelds don't really have dyno/tuning options or access
#2 - people aren't hardcore enough to buy something and then try to help us all out by posting if it works or not.
For that, I salute you Drew.
Thanks, expect to see numbers when the GM stage kit comes out too.... don't hold your breath.
Yep. But do I want to see what that SC tuner does to the DALs, MALT and Lambda. Cam angles are likely stock and so are the timing tables. Probably still has torque management left in there too. I am probably going to have to fix his MAF calibration table too as it seems the Hahn intakes show less airflow than actual. Hence those who have logged their Hahn intake are seeing very positive LTFTs.
I am curious to as to what they do to the DALS, and what not... Oh by the way got a killer DAL table now!
Yep. But do I want to see what that SC tuner does to the DALs, MALT and Lambda. Cam angles are likely stock and so are the timing tables. Probably still has torque management left in there too. I am probably going to have to fix his MAF calibration table too as it seems the Hahn intakes show less airflow than actual. Hence those who have logged their Hahn intake are seeing very positive LTFTs.
I have access to a dyno, heck i'll try to get a baseline prior to it... my tuner will be here Friday
by the time Stage 1 comes out.... everyone's warranty will be up on these cars anyway, lol
the way I see it, its honestly not worth waiting to have to keep this car stock... if it were my only car, I would... its not... therefore, i'm simply tired of waiting, you will get the same or worse results with the stage kit than with the superchips, it'll be twice as high and if you break something its going to be fun trying to get it covered anyway, besides with the Cortex you get a two year warranty, I wont have the car much longer than that anyway... that is why I am kind of staying away from some of the more aggressive tunes, yeah the numbers are nice but i'll take a conservative tune over pushing the limit any day, the way I see it around 275whp with this and probably closer to 290 with full bolt-ons... that is enough to keep most of the mustangs in my area on their toes and i'll be happy... yeah you could probably make 20whp more with a dyno tune, but sometimes I think tuners go a little over board in trying to get high numbers... I wish superchips would have released a 93 tune as the one they have is for 91, I would bet a 93 tune would gain a good bit over this tune
I got tired of waiting and i'm bored with 15psi, the price is good on this, hell, its almost worth the price in being a diagnostics tool... so I went with it...
all in all, it doesn't matter which tune you get... without the driver mod that extra 30-50whp isn't going to do **** for you... and because of that, there will always be people with canned tunes embarrassing folks with dyno tunes, and vice versa
the way I see it, its honestly not worth waiting to have to keep this car stock... if it were my only car, I would... its not... therefore, i'm simply tired of waiting, you will get the same or worse results with the stage kit than with the superchips, it'll be twice as high and if you break something its going to be fun trying to get it covered anyway, besides with the Cortex you get a two year warranty, I wont have the car much longer than that anyway... that is why I am kind of staying away from some of the more aggressive tunes, yeah the numbers are nice but i'll take a conservative tune over pushing the limit any day, the way I see it around 275whp with this and probably closer to 290 with full bolt-ons... that is enough to keep most of the mustangs in my area on their toes and i'll be happy... yeah you could probably make 20whp more with a dyno tune, but sometimes I think tuners go a little over board in trying to get high numbers... I wish superchips would have released a 93 tune as the one they have is for 91, I would bet a 93 tune would gain a good bit over this tune
I got tired of waiting and i'm bored with 15psi, the price is good on this, hell, its almost worth the price in being a diagnostics tool... so I went with it...
all in all, it doesn't matter which tune you get... without the driver mod that extra 30-50whp isn't going to do **** for you... and because of that, there will always be people with canned tunes embarrassing folks with dyno tunes, and vice versa
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by the time Stage 1 comes out.... everyone's warranty will be up on these cars anyway, lol
the way I see it, its honestly not worth waiting to have to keep this car stock... if it were my only car, I would... its not... therefore, i'm simply tired of waiting, you will get the same or worse results with the stage kit than with the superchips, it'll be twice as high and if you break something its going to be fun trying to get it covered anyway, besides with the Cortex you get a two year warranty, I wont have the car much longer than that anyway... that is why I am kind of staying away from some of the more aggressive tunes, yeah the numbers are nice but i'll take a conservative tune over pushing the limit any day, the way I see it around 275whp with this and probably closer to 290 with full bolt-ons... that is enough to keep most of the mustangs in my area on their toes and i'll be happy... yeah you could probably make 20whp more with a dyno tune, but sometimes I think tuners go a little over board in trying to get high numbers... I wish superchips would have released a 93 tune as the one they have is for 91, I would bet a 93 tune would gain a good bit over this tune
I got tired of waiting and i'm bored with 15psi, the price is good on this, hell, its almost worth the price in being a diagnostics tool... so I went with it...
all in all, it doesn't matter which tune you get... without the driver mod that extra 30-50whp isn't going to do **** for you... and because of that, there will always be people with canned tunes embarrassing folks with dyno tunes, and vice versa
the way I see it, its honestly not worth waiting to have to keep this car stock... if it were my only car, I would... its not... therefore, i'm simply tired of waiting, you will get the same or worse results with the stage kit than with the superchips, it'll be twice as high and if you break something its going to be fun trying to get it covered anyway, besides with the Cortex you get a two year warranty, I wont have the car much longer than that anyway... that is why I am kind of staying away from some of the more aggressive tunes, yeah the numbers are nice but i'll take a conservative tune over pushing the limit any day, the way I see it around 275whp with this and probably closer to 290 with full bolt-ons... that is enough to keep most of the mustangs in my area on their toes and i'll be happy... yeah you could probably make 20whp more with a dyno tune, but sometimes I think tuners go a little over board in trying to get high numbers... I wish superchips would have released a 93 tune as the one they have is for 91, I would bet a 93 tune would gain a good bit over this tune
I got tired of waiting and i'm bored with 15psi, the price is good on this, hell, its almost worth the price in being a diagnostics tool... so I went with it...
all in all, it doesn't matter which tune you get... without the driver mod that extra 30-50whp isn't going to do **** for you... and because of that, there will always be people with canned tunes embarrassing folks with dyno tunes, and vice versa
I honestly think with the Superchips, a downpipe and (the only choice it seems for an intake) the AEM intake - guys will be at or over 300 TO THE WHEELS.
Remember what i have read is that the Stage Kit is looking like 275 gross hp (meaning at the crank). That translates, accounting for drivetrain loss to a little more than stock rwhp.
That just doesn't excite me.
the stage kit is supposed to have 290 gross hp... which is not in my opinion worth the nearly thousand $ price tag it's going to have with instillation
the stage kit is supposed to be having close to 290 gross hp... which is not in my opinion worth the probably $800 price tag after instillation
the stage kit is supposed to be having close to 290 gross hp... which is not in my opinion worth the probably $800 price tag after instillation
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How would i go about sending you the logs???? Would the guy that puts the tune into my car be able to do that?
Well said bro. I agree. I think drewbroo got 281/305 in some hot ass weather, so I would say your estimate is right one. He has an intake, muffler delete and I think one cat cut out.
I honestly think with the Superchips, a downpipe and (the only choice it seems for an intake) the AEM intake - guys will be at or over 300 TO THE WHEELS.
Remember what i have read is that the Stage Kit is looking like 275 gross hp (meaning at the crank). That translates, accounting for drivetrain loss to a little more than stock rwhp.
That just doesn't excite me.
I honestly think with the Superchips, a downpipe and (the only choice it seems for an intake) the AEM intake - guys will be at or over 300 TO THE WHEELS.
Remember what i have read is that the Stage Kit is looking like 275 gross hp (meaning at the crank). That translates, accounting for drivetrain loss to a little more than stock rwhp.
That just doesn't excite me.


