Superchips
The first tune I had on my car was not my own it was done by someone who is supposed to be an expert (10 years tuning experience and he runs the tuning school for HP Tuners!!!!) needless to say my car never felt right driving around on the street. Gas mileage was crap and it surged and bogged a lot. Well I got tired of his excuses and him saying that there was nothing wrong with my car and bought HP tuners myself and I logged my car for the first time on the street my commaned A/F was 13.5-13.2 but acual A/F was 10.6-11.8 (he raped my MAF calibration table to change the A/F rather than just cahnging the commanded lambda) and the car was seeing up to 10* or KR from running that rich under load. Luckily I had that tune in my car for only 2K miles or less. That is how I came to tune and what I vow to never ever do to someones car. Too many people out there that say they can do something (even though they have been doing it for a long time) then take dangerous short cuts to save time or because the do not know the proper way to do things. Let the buyer beware.
Your trap speed is about what most are seeing stock. IMHO you have improved as a driver and that is 90% of the half second ET imporovement.
thr Sc tune probably made a 0.1-0.2 at most improvement by itself.
My tune holds the power really well up top especially with full supporting mods so the motor can breathe easier up there.
Your trap speed is about what most are seeing stock. IMHO you have improved as a driver and that is 90% of the half second ET imporovement.
thr Sc tune probably made a 0.1-0.2 at most improvement by itself.My tune holds the power really well up top especially with full supporting mods so the motor can breathe easier up there.
The first tune I had on my car was not my own it was done by someone who is supposed to be an expert (10 years tuning experience and he runs the tuning school for HP Tuners!!!!) needless to say my car never felt right driving around on the street. Gas mileage was crap and it surged and bogged a lot. Well I got tired of his excuses and him saying that there was nothing wrong with my car and bought HP tuners myself and I logged my car for the first time on the street my commaned A/F was 13.5-13.2 but acual A/F was 10.6-11.8 (he raped my MAF calibration table to change the A/F rather than just cahnging the commanded lambda) and the car was seeing up to 10* or KR from running that rich under load. Luckily I had that tune in my car for only 2K miles or less. That is how I came to tune and what I vow to never ever do to someones car. Too many people out there that say they can do something (even though they have been doing it for a long time) then take dangerous short cuts to save time or because the do not know the proper way to do things. Let the buyer beware.
Everyone on here should read this post about my experiece with a "experienced tuner" he is one of the biggest names in LSX tuning in Florida (runs the tuning school for HP Tuners too) and he nearly blew my car up. This car is not a LS series motor nor is it tuned the same way. DI Turbo is not what they know how to tune there is a big difference.
Everyone on here should read this post about my experiece with a "experienced tuner" he is one of the biggest names in LSX tuning in Florida (runs the tuning school for HP Tuners too) and he nearly blew my car up. This car is not a LS series motor nor is it tuned the same way. DI Turbo is not what they know how to tune there is a big difference.
like i said i know he's made changes on the tune to tweak alot of things .. he's learned alot developing the infiniboost and infinifuel setups he's working on as well as his "madman" tune lol
i know man i'm not worried.. I think based on reviews i've gotten after tuning people it's not me lol i don't take it personal.. i've never had an issue with someone not feeling happy with their tune however i totally understand what you mean
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Ive gotta go in friday for my brake rotors, so i popped in my stock ECU, and gave a rip thru 1st and 2nd gear.
Few observations. With the SC tune there is a bit more torque hitting at 3k , but whereas the stock pulls to the top of the powerband, the SC tune seems to run out of breath much sooner. Also my butt dyno tells me that the stock tune has just as much ***** in 1st... Meaning they left 1st gear alone with torque management.
Also a quick non NLS shift in the stock map and lag is almost imperceptible (Driver mod stage 1) But with the Superchips you have a split second where its not pulling. Something must be off, RPD did not show it pull timing, but spoolup seems to be wayyy to long i mean its a K04, Not a T3/T4.
Also run the A/C on the superchips vs stock and youd swear your retarded trying to take off smooth or rev match.... haha.
Id keep the tuner if they could take out some more torque management, afterall i did envision smokey rollon 2nd gear burnouts. So i am a bit dissapointed.
Few observations. With the SC tune there is a bit more torque hitting at 3k , but whereas the stock pulls to the top of the powerband, the SC tune seems to run out of breath much sooner. Also my butt dyno tells me that the stock tune has just as much ***** in 1st... Meaning they left 1st gear alone with torque management.
Also a quick non NLS shift in the stock map and lag is almost imperceptible (Driver mod stage 1) But with the Superchips you have a split second where its not pulling. Something must be off, RPD did not show it pull timing, but spoolup seems to be wayyy to long i mean its a K04, Not a T3/T4.
Also run the A/C on the superchips vs stock and youd swear your retarded trying to take off smooth or rev match.... haha.
Id keep the tuner if they could take out some more torque management, afterall i did envision smokey rollon 2nd gear burnouts. So i am a bit dissapointed.
Thats weird , i don't notice any difference with the AC on or off. Rolling along in 2nd at say 30mph my car will start to squeek the tires around 4500rpm on up ...No smokey 2nd rollon hehe. What i have noticed is SC must have mess with DFCO cause my car seems to almost coast when engine braking , stock the car slowed down way faster when you let off. All in all i'm happy with it till i get tuned , It's better than stock lol.
How much boost are you seeing MAX ? Mine spikes to 21-22 and holds 20 psi.
How much boost are you seeing MAX ? Mine spikes to 21-22 and holds 20 psi.
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The A/C makes a big difference in this car and how it goes into load. DO a pull with it on, and then again off (atleast with a tuned car) makes a big difference!
But with the torque management on it's not letting out the full potential.
Thats weird , i don't notice any difference with the AC on or off. Rolling along in 2nd at say 30mph my car will start to squeek the tires around 4500rpm on up ...No smokey 2nd rollon hehe. What i have noticed is SC must have mess with DFCO cause my car seems to almost coast when engine braking , stock the car slowed down way faster when you let off. All in all i'm happy with it till i get tuned , It's better than stock lol.
How much boost are you seeing MAX ? Mine spikes to 21-22 and holds 20 psi.
How much boost are you seeing MAX ? Mine spikes to 21-22 and holds 20 psi.
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Mine will boost to that in 2nd, but when i did my 3rd gear pull on a 4 lane rd in mexico, its only at 18 by redline.
On some roads ill get a squeak in 2nd but i want smoke bottom line.
Im not gonna lie, i do like the SC tuner but heres why i probably will get hahn HPT tuned versus stay with SCT.
1) Theyre not coming out with a 93 tune, or intakes, Downpipes and specific tunes
2) The forum is always down
3) The reps arent specialist, they have to know about all kinds of makes and models
4) We cant use alot of the features like wheel and tire size adjustments
5) You cant see what the updates are when u update the tuner, just that there is a new database.
6) Did i mention that it doesnt do 2nd gear rolling burnouts at 50mph. Thats the biggest bummer right there Torque management FTL
On some roads ill get a squeak in 2nd but i want smoke bottom line.
Im not gonna lie, i do like the SC tuner but heres why i probably will get hahn HPT tuned versus stay with SCT.
1) Theyre not coming out with a 93 tune, or intakes, Downpipes and specific tunes
2) The forum is always down
3) The reps arent specialist, they have to know about all kinds of makes and models
4) We cant use alot of the features like wheel and tire size adjustments
5) You cant see what the updates are when u update the tuner, just that there is a new database.
6) Did i mention that it doesnt do 2nd gear rolling burnouts at 50mph. Thats the biggest bummer right there Torque management FTL
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i just detuned & sold my cortex for 300...I feel naked. Now I need some power! I am pretty much sold on a HP tune but the Trifecta sounds good too. I am a little torn, I want the capability of roasting my tires while rolling in second......what to do....what to do?
Damn data base errors!!! I just sold my Cortex and now am looking to really put some power down, but I'm having a hard time deciding. i'm really leaning towards HPT but Trifecta keeps coming to mind...what to do...what to do????
Damn data base errors!!! I just sold my Cortex and now am looking to really put some power down, but I'm having a hard time deciding. i'm really leaning towards HPT but Trifecta keeps coming to mind...what to do...what to do????
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Mine will boost to that in 2nd, but when i did my 3rd gear pull on a 4 lane rd in mexico, its only at 18 by redline.
On some roads ill get a squeak in 2nd but i want smoke bottom line.
Im not gonna lie, i do like the SC tuner but heres why i probably will get hahn HPT tuned versus stay with SCT.
1) Theyre not coming out with a 93 tune, or intakes, Downpipes and specific tunes
2) The forum is always down
3) The reps arent specialist, they have to know about all kinds of makes and models
4) We cant use alot of the features like wheel and tire size adjustments
5) You cant see what the updates are when u update the tuner, just that there is a new database.
6) Did i mention that it doesnt do 2nd gear rolling burnouts at 50mph. Thats the biggest bummer right there Torque management FTL
On some roads ill get a squeak in 2nd but i want smoke bottom line.
Im not gonna lie, i do like the SC tuner but heres why i probably will get hahn HPT tuned versus stay with SCT.
1) Theyre not coming out with a 93 tune, or intakes, Downpipes and specific tunes
2) The forum is always down
3) The reps arent specialist, they have to know about all kinds of makes and models
4) We cant use alot of the features like wheel and tire size adjustments
5) You cant see what the updates are when u update the tuner, just that there is a new database.
6) Did i mention that it doesnt do 2nd gear rolling burnouts at 50mph. Thats the biggest bummer right there Torque management FTL
I don't blame you one bit , the SC tune is better than stock , it just not in the same category as a HPtuners custom or trifecta tune .
The first tune I had on my car was not my own it was done by someone who is supposed to be an expert (10 years tuning experience and he runs the tuning school for HP Tuners!!!!) needless to say my car never felt right driving around on the street. Gas mileage was crap and it surged and bogged a lot. Well I got tired of his excuses and him saying that there was nothing wrong with my car and bought HP tuners myself and I logged my car for the first time on the street my commaned A/F was 13.5-13.2 but acual A/F was 10.6-11.8 (he raped my MAF calibration table to change the A/F rather than just cahnging the commanded lambda) and the car was seeing up to 10* or KR from running that rich under load. Luckily I had that tune in my car for only 2K miles or less. That is how I came to tune and what I vow to never ever do to someones car. Too many people out there that say they can do something (even though they have been doing it for a long time) then take dangerous short cuts to save time or because the do not know the proper way to do things. Let the buyer beware.
Everyone on here should read this post about my experiece with a "experienced tuner" he is one of the biggest names in LSX tuning in Florida (runs the tuning school for HP Tuners too) and he nearly blew my car up. This car is not a LS series motor nor is it tuned the same way. DI Turbo is not what they know how to tune there is a big difference.
Everyone on here should read this post about my experiece with a "experienced tuner" he is one of the biggest names in LSX tuning in Florida (runs the tuning school for HP Tuners too) and he nearly blew my car up. This car is not a LS series motor nor is it tuned the same way. DI Turbo is not what they know how to tune there is a big difference.
Well...You can officially put me on the dark side...Just put the Superchips tuner up on ebay (for a considerably low cost I might add)...I'll be going the HPTuners route...ugh. I will certainly never put down the Superchips tune because it was a drastic improvement over stock and it is a mean tune on the streets and made the car feel SOOO much better from every aspect (smoother idle, smoother acceleration, better gas mileage, and of course MORE BOOST)...I'm just a power hungry person and I NEED MORE...My clutch is going to hate me for this I'm sure...
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1 hour north of Tampa.
Once the newness wears off the truth can be more clearly seen.
Ive gotta go in friday for my brake rotors, so i popped in my stock ECU, and gave a rip thru 1st and 2nd gear.
Few observations. With the SC tune there is a bit more torque hitting at 3k , but whereas the stock pulls to the top of the powerband, the SC tune seems to run out of breath much sooner. Also my butt dyno tells me that the stock tune has just as much ***** in 1st... Meaning they left 1st gear alone with torque management.
Also a quick non NLS shift in the stock map and lag is almost imperceptible (Driver mod stage 1) But with the Superchips you have a split second where its not pulling. Something must be off, RPD did not show it pull timing, but spoolup seems to be wayyy to long i mean its a K04, Not a T3/T4.
Also run the A/C on the superchips vs stock and youd swear your retarded trying to take off smooth or rev match.... haha.
Id keep the tuner if they could take out some more torque management, afterall i did envision smokey rollon 2nd gear burnouts. So i am a bit dissapointed.
Few observations. With the SC tune there is a bit more torque hitting at 3k , but whereas the stock pulls to the top of the powerband, the SC tune seems to run out of breath much sooner. Also my butt dyno tells me that the stock tune has just as much ***** in 1st... Meaning they left 1st gear alone with torque management.
Also a quick non NLS shift in the stock map and lag is almost imperceptible (Driver mod stage 1) But with the Superchips you have a split second where its not pulling. Something must be off, RPD did not show it pull timing, but spoolup seems to be wayyy to long i mean its a K04, Not a T3/T4.
Also run the A/C on the superchips vs stock and youd swear your retarded trying to take off smooth or rev match.... haha.
Id keep the tuner if they could take out some more torque management, afterall i did envision smokey rollon 2nd gear burnouts. So i am a bit dissapointed.
Last edited by Terminator2; Jul 15, 2009 at 03:57 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I don't know about "truth"...I mean I certainly didn't expect to be anywhere near the levels of Trifecta or especially not a custom tune from HPTuners and I hope that nobody that bought the Superchips tune was expecting anything other than a safe tune...The problem is that I though I was going to be satisfied with a safe tune...turns out I am not.