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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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I'll drive to NC with my Superchips tune and meet you at a track anytime. Dyno queen.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Donny Brasco
The SCT handheld is a data logger, scanner as well as flasher!

How can you say that it's not worth the money????
Because I can do the same tune for your car in 2 minutes. They have put little work or thought into that tune is what I am trying to get across. It is half assed so to speak at least the hahn PPC tuner actually changes a lot more settings, it costs a ton more but will make more power. If you want a canned tune the PPC tuner will make more power overall than the SC tune.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Donny Brasco
I'll drive to NC with my Superchips tune and meet you at a track anytime. Dyno queen.
Thats fine.... I hope you do! I love the e-arguments!
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Donny Brasco
I'll drive to NC with my Superchips tune and meet you at a track anytime. Dyno queen.
Dyno queen. You would not stand a chance against his car.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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This is why I stopped trying to help people....
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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I'm not talking about a roll race - I am talking about a real race. Stop to stop. A driver's race, not an engineer's race.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Donny Brasco
The SCT handheld is a data logger, scanner as well as flasher!

How can you say that it's not worth the money????
umm whats the point in having a logger if you cant make changes based on it ?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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umm whats the point in having a logger if you cant make changes based on it ?
Don't bother.... he's kinda like talking to a dog they listen but don't understand a word you say!
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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this thread more recently bc of one person has become BS
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
Don't bother.... he's kinda like talking to a dog they listen but don't understand a word you say!
i dunno my dog is pretty good at responding when i talk .. i think that might be an insult to my dog lol ..

basically what this is is the equivalent to the gm stage tune... which IMO would be more intelligent to get yea it might be more .. but that'll keep you REAL warranty if you're worried about it ... over all if you;re that worried about warranty you shouldn't be tuning your car.. because you know what.. all it's going to take for SC to void their "warranty" is to do what gm does.. "some other part caused the failure" they warranty their tune wont kill your car.. no **** thats because it doesnt change much of anything if you start to add bolt ons and such .. the tune wasnt made for that and can void said warranty ...

back at square 1 fail.. although some people have had lack luster results with trifecta since he bought an hhr ss he's working out alot of the kinks with the tune and learning alot ... trifecta has produced either a) amazing results or b) ok results aside from a few select cases SC tune produces ok at best results.. for more money..
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
umm whats the point in having a logger if you cant make changes based on it ?
X.1000 I did not think of that.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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X.1000 I did not think of that.
haha yea i stated that in the beginning asking something along those lines and no one said anything but i figured since it's came up a few more times i should probably be a douche canoe again lol
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Any of you super tuners with HPTuners willing to drive to my front door and tune my car (for a fee of course)? If not...then find a new thread to boast about in.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
Any of you super tuners with HPTuners willing to drive to my front door and tune my car (for a fee of course)? If not...then find a new thread to boast about in.
I will travel to tune but you have to fly me to you.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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I will travel to tune but you have to fly me to you.
Eh..bit pricey...guess the price I paid wasn't all that bad then? I was looking though, and I could easily sell my Superchips tune for 250+ on ebay. How hard would it be to teach someone to tune themselves with HPTuners? It would be a neat thing to learn and like I said previously...having JUST finished college..I have a bit of spare time on my hands and wouldn't mind learning. Or I may keep this tune and just pick up HPTuners anyways because as much as you all dislike and discredit this tune I am more than satisfied with its improvements on my car. I mean I did pick up about a half a second in the 1/4 (and I'm sure I could pick up a wee bit more even).

The only thing that worries me about those extreme power tunes you guys are running is the life of the turbo. I mean I've seen some of those dyno graphs and they peak VERY early and pittle off quite a bit by redline which only says one thing...the tiny K04 isn't meant to boost that high and it's just over spinning itself considerably and running out of air towards the end of each gear.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Wow, enjoying the back and forth. Im going to go with HPT very very shortly, but let me add that I do like my SC. I am stock with only a muffler delete so I should see about 290-300 WHP on 93 oct? What other power adders have made the biggest difference with HPT's capabilities? Any info is appreciated.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Married w/children
Wow, enjoying the back and forth. Im going to go with HPT very very shortly, but let me add that I do like my SC. I am stock with only a muffler delete so I should see about 290-300 WHP on 93 oct? What other power adders have made the biggest difference with HPT's capabilities? Any info is appreciated.
a good hptuners tune will net you right around 300whp on 93.. muffler delete is a sound mod.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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I thought the muffler delete added .001 nanohp?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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I thought the muffler delete added .001 nanohp?
Do you know what you're doing with tuning? If so what method of learning did you use. I am genuinely considering buying HPTuners but I'm a tuning tard. Hense having Superchips.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Not me, I think I found someone local that tunes with it. But I am considering learning.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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guys check corvetteforum.com -- they are the biggest car forum i swear, 600,000+ members... and they have so many tuners around.. SO MANY use hptuners... I living in NJ am good buddies with eastcoastsupercharging ( i had 2 500+ rwhp vettes before, 1 being a z06).. they run the corvette challenge at englishtown.. now i doubt they ever tuned a ss/tc but i know if i call chris he will be able to do it. Their tuner (and the other owner) Doug is a wizard with tuning... hes tuned some of the fastest vettes in the world and holds a few records for dragging them on some of the vettes.. They use EFI LIVE and HP TUNERS.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeySed
guys check corvetteforum.com -- they are the biggest car forum i swear, 600,000+ members... and they have so many tuners around.. SO MANY use hptuners... I living in NJ am good buddies with eastcoastsupercharging ( i had 2 500+ rwhp vettes before, 1 being a z06).. they run the corvette challenge at englishtown.. now i doubt they ever tuned a ss/tc but i know if i call chris he will be able to do it. Their tuner (and the other owner) Doug is a wizard with tuning... hes tuned some of the fastest vettes in the world and holds a few records for dragging them on some of the vettes.. They use EFI LIVE and HP TUNERS.
Are they affiliated with CARTEK? If not, they should be. CARTEK is the end all be all of LS1 and LT1 tuning.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeySed
guys check corvetteforum.com -- they are the biggest car forum i swear, 600,000+ members... and they have so many tuners around.. SO MANY use hptuners... I living in NJ am good buddies with eastcoastsupercharging ( i had 2 500+ rwhp vettes before, 1 being a z06).. they run the corvette challenge at englishtown.. now i doubt they ever tuned a ss/tc but i know if i call chris he will be able to do it. Their tuner (and the other owner) Doug is a wizard with tuning... hes tuned some of the fastest vettes in the world and holds a few records for dragging them on some of the vettes.. They use EFI LIVE and HP TUNERS.
The first tune I had on my car was not my own it was done by someone who is supposed to be an expert (10 years tuning experience and he runs the tuning school for HP Tuners!!!!) needless to say my car never felt right driving around on the street. Gas mileage was crap and it surged and bogged a lot. Well I got tired of his excuses and him saying that there was nothing wrong with my car and bought HP tuners myself and I logged my car for the first time on the street my commaned A/F was 13.5-13.2 but acual A/F was 10.6-11.8 (he raped my MAF calibration table to change the A/F rather than just cahnging the commanded lambda) and the car was seeing up to 10* or KR from running that rich under load. Luckily I had that tune in my car for only 2K miles or less. That is how I came to tune and what I vow to never ever do to someones car. Too many people out there that say they can do something (even though they have been doing it for a long time) then take dangerous short cuts to save time or because the do not know the proper way to do things. Let the buyer beware.

Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
Eh..bit pricey...guess the price I paid wasn't all that bad then? I was looking though, and I could easily sell my Superchips tune for 250+ on ebay. How hard would it be to teach someone to tune themselves with HPTuners? It would be a neat thing to learn and like I said previously...having JUST finished college..I have a bit of spare time on my hands and wouldn't mind learning. Or I may keep this tune and just pick up HPTuners anyways because as much as you all dislike and discredit this tune I am more than satisfied with its improvements on my car. I mean I did pick up about a half a second in the 1/4 (and I'm sure I could pick up a wee bit more even).

The only thing that worries me about those extreme power tunes you guys are running is the life of the turbo. I mean I've seen some of those dyno graphs and they peak VERY early and pittle off quite a bit by redline which only says one thing...the tiny K04 isn't meant to boost that high and it's just over spinning itself considerably and running out of air towards the end of each gear.
Your trap speed is about what most are seeing stock. IMHO you have improved as a driver and that is 90% of the half second ET imporovement. thr Sc tune probably made a 0.1-0.2 at most improvement by itself.

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The first tune I had on my car was not my own it was done by someone who is supposed to be an expert (10 years tuning experience and he runs the tuning school for HP Tuners!!!!) needless to say my car never felt right driving around on the street. Gas mileage was crap and it surged and bogged a lot. Well I got tired of his excuses and him saying that there was nothing wrong with my car and bought HP tuners myself and I logged my car for the first time on the street my commaned A/F was 13.5-13.2 but acual A/F was 10.6-11.8 (he raped my MAF calibration table to change the A/F rather than just cahnging the commanded lambda) and the car was seeing up to 10* or KR from running that rich under load. Luckily I had that tune in my car for only 2K miles or less. That is how I came to tune and what I vow to never ever do to someones car. Too many people out there that say they can do something (even though they have been doing it for a long time) then take dangerous short cuts to save time or because the do not know the proper way to do things. Let the buyer beware.



Your trap speed is about what most are seeing stock. IMHO you have improved as a driver and that is 90% of the half second ET imporovement. thr Sc tune probably made a 0.1-0.2 at most improvement by itself.
My tune holds the power really well up top especially with full supporting mods so the motor can breathe easier up there.

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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Are they affiliated with CARTEK? If not, they should be. CARTEK is the end all be all of LS1 and LT1 tuning.
No they are bigger then cartek... ecs MAKES their own s/c kit for the lsx platform based off the novi paxton.. all corvette shops around the country sell it.

Cartek, ECS, vette doctors in long island are the 3 big wigs in the tri state for corvettes / LSx


Coming from 4 vettes C5, z06, c6 - its a great world of aftermarket support. But any of the places i just mentioned would be able to tune the SS.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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The first tune I had on my car was not my own it was done by someone who is supposed to be an expert (10 years tuning experience and he runs the tuning school for HP Tuners!!!!) needless to say my car never felt right driving around on the street. Gas mileage was crap and it surged and bogged a lot. Well I got tired of his excuses and him saying that there was nothing wrong with my car and bought HP tuners myself and I logged my car for the first time on the street my commaned A/F was 13.5-13.2 but acual A/F was 10.6-11.8 (he raped my MAF calibration table to change the A/F rather than just cahnging the commanded lambda) and the car was seeing up to 10* or KR from running that rich under load. Luckily I had that tune in my car for only 2K miles or less. That is how I came to tune and what I vow to never ever do to someones car. Too many people out there that say they can do something (even though they have been doing it for a long time) then take dangerous short cuts to save time or because the do not know the proper way to do things. Let the buyer beware.


Everyone on here should read this post about my experiece with a "experienced tuner" he is one of the biggest names in LSX tuning in Florida (runs the tuning school for HP Tuners too) and he nearly blew my car up. This car is not a LS series motor nor is it tuned the same way. DI Turbo is not what they know how to tune there is a big difference.
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