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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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2010 Cobalt SS ride with GM Stage 1 kit (with pictures)

HUGE thanks for Bill (More_Torque_More_HP) for bringing out this car and showing what it can do. To be general this car pulls through the entire gear. Coming from a 2006 cobalt SS driver with GM stage 2 this is to be expected, however I rode in my friends 2009 SS with HP tuners tune and I would REALLY like to see a race with these two. The car never falls flat on its face and just keeps going. Temps outside were 65 F and PSI spiked at 22 and stayed at 20-20.5 PSI. I was really amazed at what this stage kit can do compared to the HP tuned car I also rode in. Bill also shead some light on these "invisible tunes" and the learn down feature as well and gave me info on some LSJ stuff. If you are thinking of buying this tune then GET IT, those who went for a ride in it have loved it and more people will post threads like this today and tomorrow about the car. Bill had some numbers but I will leave that to him if he feels like posting. Thanks for reading and onto the pictures!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUpmKRdH3rI

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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Did you get to no lift shift?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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I did not drive for the fact I did not want to mess anything up (Bill offered many times) and I rode in my friends HP tuned ss t/c as stated and thought it would be a better butt test lol. However Bill did no lift shift, so yes...in a way.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
I did not drive for the fact I did not want to mess anything up (Bill offered many times) and I rode in my friends HP tuned ss t/c as stated and thought it would be a better butt test lol. However Bill did no lift shift, so yes...in a way.
Are you crazy, how would you mess it up?
Is the radio the only thing you saw diff from 09?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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What LSJ stuff did he share?

Whats up with the black radio?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Are you crazy, how would you mess it up?
meh crash the car IDK lol, but I really wanted to compare with the other tuned car I rode in and get videos....that dont work for some reason.

I had some questions on what cooling mods would be best etc.

As for the radio that was pretty much the only thing I saw diff from 09, others will be driving it also and I drive a 2006 s/c so they might be able to spot things I missed.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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After Bill gave you a ride, he stopped by my work and let me drive the 2010 Cobalt SS/TC Stage 1. This will be the my second mod to my "Tuner". The first one being sub frame connnectors. Bill confirmed that first gear is the same/very similar in terms if power however I noticed a big diifference in power in second and third gear. I was prepared for the extra torque steer with two hand on the wheel and I would agree due to the extra power, it has more torque steer. I didn't perform the no lift **** because I don't have the tecnique perfected and I didn't want to embarass myself.
My Cobalt TC only has a mechanical booster guage, This TC had the RPD which I think is the ccoolest thing since sliced bread. I thought it was awesome to see how much fuel pressure you had at idle vs when accelerating. Maybe this will be my 3rd mod

So people who have been waiting...the stage kit is just around the corner, and you will be pleased.

BTW.. Bill thanks for meeting up with me and letting me pick your brain.

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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bri2203
After Bill gave you a ride, he stopped by my work and let me drive the 2010 Cobalt SS/TC Stage 1. This will be the my second mod to my "Tuner". The first one being sub frame connnectors. Bill confirmed that first gear is the same/very similar in terms if power however I noticed a big diifference in power in second and third gear. I was prepared for the extra torque steer with two hand on the wheel and I would agree due to the extra power, it has more torque steer. I didn't perform the no lift **** because I don't have the tecnique perfected and I didn't want to embarass myself.
My TC only has a mechanical booster guage, This TC has the RPD which I think is the koolest thing since sliced bread. I thought it was awesome to see how much fuel pressure you had at idle vs when accelerating. Maybe this will be my 3rd mod.

So people who have been waiting...the stage kit is just around the corner, and you will be pleased. Thanks for

BTW.. Bill thanks for meeting up with me and letting me pick your brain.

he he...x2 on that.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Black radio, but not black trim like G5? Ghey.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Somebody tell me the air inlet isn't TOTALLY different on this car!!! It's different from my 09sedan. This car has the new intake.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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What happen to your driver's seat? It looks like someone took a **** in it....
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
Somebody tell me the air inlet isn't TOTALLY different on this car!!! It's different from my 09sedan. This car has the new intake.
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Where do you see pic's of the intake?? I don't see the Air intake in any of them ......almost like it was done that way on purpose.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Where do you see pic's of the intake?? I don't see the Air intake in any of them ......almost like it was done that way on purpose.
Check pics 6, 7, 8 and 9 and look at the TMAP placement. Then go look at your car. TMAPS are the little things with the blue labvel.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Those come in the kit right?

Here is a good link that shows a decent picture of them.

http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2...grade-kit.html
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Those come in the kit right?
yes, sorry I did not get any pictures of the intake, not trying to hide anything lol. If you REALLY want them try and ask one of the guys Bill might be meeting tomorrow. I believe Bill said car is 100% stock other than GMPP stage 1 kit
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
yes, sorry I did not get any pictures of the intake, not trying to hide anything lol. If you REALLY want them try and ask one of the guys Bill might be meeting tomorrow. I believe Bill said car is 100% stock other than GMPP stage 1 kit
Naw just my mind at work......I was like ......the intake is conveniently out of every picture lol... i doubt they would take a car out to cobalt enthusiasts with an intake they wanted to keep secret lol.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Those come in the kit right?

Here is a good link that shows a decent picture of them.

http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2...grade-kit.html
The TMAPS are the HEART of the upgrade and yes they are in the kit but what I'm referring to is on this car there is a big black hose directly next to the engine on the left, passenger side, end of the block. The only thing resting in that space on my car is the air box. Gotta go. The race started.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Naw just my mind at work......I was like ......the intake is conveniently out of every picture lol... i doubt they would take a car out to cobalt enthusiasts with an intake they wanted to keep secret lol.
lol yea, Bill had no problem with the videos (that dont work, damn you phone!!) and photos I took and he had no say in where I pointed my camara. thought I would only get pictures of the stuff that came with the kit but I also thought I got one of the entire engine bay .
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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why would someone pay 700+ dollars on something they can get for 250+?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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why would someone pay 700+ dollars on something they can get for 250+?
warranty, some hardware and the fact of knowing what is behind the testing of this kit..............
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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warranty, some hardware and the fact of knowing what is behind the testing of this kit..............
I get full warranty...and i know mine has been tested.

mine also makes 331 whp 393 wtq.

im not bashing the GM stage kit..i think its great..i just think GM priced themselfs out of the market.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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yea it might be a little pricy but from what he told me it was tested to last the lifetime of the car. Not sure if your tune can say that and I also know from your posts that you dont think that the infiniboost is for everybody lol.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
yea it might be a little pricy but from what he told me it was tested to last the lifetime of the car. Not sure if your tune can say that and I also know from your posts that you dont think that the infiniboost is for everybody lol.
nope thats for sure. i will say their is probably more reliablity with the stage 1 then custom tuning, however for the price..id stick with the custom tuning..just preference. Id like to see some dyno numbers of the stage 1.
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yeah i think thats too much money for only 30hp gain
plus its only sensors
its not like the stage 2 kit for the lsj
atleast that had acual parts but hey im not GM
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