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Old 03-16-2010, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2 View Post
The car compensates for all of those changes very easily assuming someone is not running an intake that has not been fully tuned for.
That's true, but he didn't say that his friend had a car like ours, so I was trying to be general.
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Guys, I haven't read the full thing, but this is AWESOME!!!
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What are the benefits of tuning on top of the gms1? With trifecta for instance, I realize one can have the gms1 as the stock tune and the trifecta as the tune one can press the traction control button or the cruise button for. Does the gms1 allow for better utilization and tuning of mods since the "learn down" has been removed/changed and with the addition of the new sensors?
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Originally Posted by hunter19707 View Post
What are the benefits of tuning on top of the gms1? With trifecta for instance, I realize one can have the gms1 as the stock tune and the trifecta as the tune one can press the traction control button or the cruise button for. Does the gms1 allow for better utilization and tuning of mods since the "learn down" has been removed/changed and with the addition of the new sensors?
Imo stock vs GMS1 is night and day, I'd say the GMS1 is a far better starting baseline than the stock tune is any day . Like I've said, no more hesitations anywhere throught the RPM band, a hell of a lot stronger up to 6000ish RPM and overall improvement in driveability .
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hunter19707 View Post
What are the benefits of tuning on top of the gms1? With trifecta for instance, I realize one can have the gms1 as the stock tune and the trifecta as the tune one can press the traction control button or the cruise button for. Does the gms1 allow for better utilization and tuning of mods since the "learn down" has been removed/changed and with the addition of the new sensors?
You're correct! With the new sensors, Vince is able to collect more reliable data for tuning. As discussed in other threads on this forum, the 2 bar sensors become unreliable after the boost is raised above 22 psi because the sensor is maxed out and the last 10% of the efficiency range of the sensors are meant as a "fail-safe" zone. By updating the sensors to 3 bar (what's included in the GMS1 kit), the sensors are now capable of reading higher boost accurately. The new sensors are one of the main reason why I purchased the GSM1 kit myself then had Vince tune over it for me.

Hope this helps! Any other questions about Trifecta feel free to pm me and I'll do my best to answer them for you.

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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
It depends on what type of requests we are talking about. If someone asks for more or less boost in 1st gear, rev limiter 200 RPM higher, a little less timing advance because they can only get 91 octane, etc, it's no problem to set the ECM up the way they want it.

Thanks for the update.
If someone wanted you guys to tune specifically for a mod say a Downpipe or an Intake, they would have to go to your shop though correct?
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Originally Posted by Terminator2 View Post
If you tuned your stock ECM and you use the spare as your stock ECM they could tell by the ECM serial number if they dug deep enough. If you tuned the spare ECM they will not be able to tell if you were tuned once you swap the stock ECM back in.
I had the spare ecm tuned so In theory I am clear!!

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Originally Posted by tom.g View Post
If someone wanted you guys to tune specifically for a mod say a Downpipe or an Intake, they would have to go to your shop though correct?
Intake needs extensive street tuning and data logging to be properly tuned for. DP can be tuned for sight unseen.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:37 AM
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New info added, thanks for the contributions guys. Still have a lot of "?" that can only be answered by people with the actual tunes.
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Originally Posted by tom.g View Post
If someone wanted you guys to tune specifically for a mod say a Downpipe or an Intake, they would have to go to your shop though correct?
No. We have worked with hundreds of customers over the years on custom ECM files. If they can provide a detailed description, dyno graph, scan log, etc, we can help. On something like a custom intake which significantly alters the MAF chart, it would be a better idea to have the car here, of course.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:01 PM
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Great info guys keep up the work.

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Old 03-18-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tom.g View Post
New info added, thanks for the contributions guys. Still have a lot of "?" that can only be answered by people with the actual tunes.
Which ones Tom? I might be able to answer some of them.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2 View Post
Which ones Tom? I might be able to answer some of them.
I sent you an e-mail either yesterday or the day before that, I can't remeber lol. I had a couple quick questions in there, did you want me to re-send it?
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tom.g View Post
I sent you an e-mail either yesterday or the day before that, I can't remeber lol. I had a couple quick questions in there, did you want me to re-send it?
I just sent you an email. I had not checked my email since tuesday night LOL.
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Good info for a sticky.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06 View Post
Good info for a sticky.
Thank you. It seems you are the only good moderator one here anymore.

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Old 03-18-2010, 04:24 PM
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You have already seen most of this info Will.
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It seems you are the only moderator on here anymore.
Fixed
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Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06 View Post
Fixed
So true.
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New info added. Thanks Term.

Still need peoples input on driveability, fuel consumption and pros & cons of tunes from personal experience.
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I just purchased the ZZP LNF PCM as well as a ZZP Spun Metal Catted Downpipe. I plan to do Stock Dyno Runs and then Dyno Runs with the ZZP PCM, ZZP Downpipe, and a K&N Drop In. I will comment on all issues once I have a feel for everything.
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Please do BR Im lookin' for some upgrades
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