2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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You just don't know **** about cars.
I bet my epeen is bigger than yours! Enough of the bull ****. Keep this discussion related to what the OP is having issues with. Thanks.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Guys guys guys guys calm down for real... gm will do wutever possible to cover there ass. Trifecta tunes are not junk as long as they r logged. Be smart put stock **** onn and take. It to a diff dealer
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by revolution607@yahoo.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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isnt the trifecta tune undetectable? and isnt 23 psi the recommended boost for the stock turbo?
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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wanna mod your car then pay when it breaks.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgrinch
isnt the trifecta tune undetectable? and isnt 23 psi the recommended boost for the stock turbo?
The trifecta tune passes the CVN number check the dealership does to validate the calibration is stock. 23-24 psi is about all you want to run with stock internals .

Odd's are the OP has a bald set of front tires ...possibly some rubber in the front wheel wells .... thats all it takes if the dealer doesn't want the warranty work ( and most would rather have non-warranty work) cause it doesn't pay shop rate.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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GMS1 FTW... my car is plenty fast for me and i just had my motor go at 36,000km from a porous block..got a brand new complete motor from GM... ya took your chances and lost dude... hopefully they don't lock your VIN so you're denied service at any dealer for that issue... goodluck!!!
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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magnuson moss act dude
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Without bothering to read most of the posts, to the OP. If your tune was **** your boned, if your tune was good and you decided to add more parts without a retune, your also boned. If you failed to read your warranty information in the back of your owner's manual, your boned. If you failed to read that if they find evidence of abuse that does not constitute the intended purpose of the vehicle (by design they know it's a performance car, they know you will at least try out your no lift shift and launch control, they know you will probably spin the tires a couple times and show off, they know you will probably do stupid things with the car and all these things are covered so long as you do not modify the engineered performance of the vehicle.

Ohh and I fogot, if you HAVE a K&N filter installed or any oiled gauze filter, and the dealer finds it there is a bulletin that tells them to void your warranty.

K&N filters when properly cleaned and reoiled work nearly as well as the factory filter, however it is well known these designs do not trap fine particulates that dry filters WILL trap. It's also what allows them to out flow paper elements. The factory filter is fantastic IMHO and replacing it should be done only with ANOTHER FACTORY FILTER. Remember, dust acts like fine sandpaper, it'll prematurely dirty your oil, it'll wear out your cylinder walls, rings, bearings, generally wreak havoc. Those who DO run with K&N filters should at the very least clean it with every oil change AND change their oil when the life reaches 30%, because the engineering doesn't account for that type of filter. That is all, sorry for the preach.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cefaln452
magnuson moss act dude

Why... he tuned his car, used the NLS feature... beat on his car, ran it down the strip.

HE did the damage not GM.

Pay to play.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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idk he had a tune... didnt read that close... and who gives a **** if he used the NLS feature... GM put it there to be used...
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cefaln452
idk he had a tune... didnt read that close... and who gives a **** if he used the NLS feature... GM put it there to be used...
Once again... Pay to play.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Well thanks for everyones input... im going to take it back to the dealership its back to stock so we will see
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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^not the same one I hope.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by moranjames89
seriously? You just said trifecta tunes are garbage, but any reputable trifecta dealer will data-log and make sure that **** is near perfect. Trifecta also has some fuel tables that hpt don't. You are a complete moron.

you don't need a dyno to have a safe and effective tune on a car.
I agree
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Good luck. But he's right it's pay to play. I've spent close to ten grand on my car...and very few of my mods affect actual horsepower. Hell I still have factory charge piping, factory downpipe, chopped up and delete the cat, delete muffler, delete alot of things now that I think about it...but where it counts the Dealer has honored what should still be warrantied.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Spins All Day
You just don't know **** about cars.
nither do u
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by army_greywolf
Ohh and I fogot, if you HAVE a K&N filter installed or any oiled gauze filter, and the dealer finds it there is a bulletin that tells them to void your warranty.
You sure about that?
I thought K&N Short Ram specifically states it will not void the warranty?
BTW..
I'm STOCK baby.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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Thats what K&N says and GM doesnt follow by what K&N says lol
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RYRO14
Thats what K&N says and GM doesnt follow by what K&N says lol
OK..I found this. Doesn't void warranty. However, if they can demonstrate that OILY MAF was the cause, it can be voided in that particular case.

A new TSB has just been release from GM concerning K&N air filters along with other rechargeable filters alike.

"Info - Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On as a Result of the Use of an Excessively/Over-Oiled Aftermarket, Reusable Air Filter #04-07-30-013A - (Jan 25, 2005)
Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On as a Result of the Use of an Excessively/ Over- Oiled Aftermarket, Reusable Air Filter
2005 and Prior GM Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2005 and Prior Saturn Models
2003-2005 HUMMER H2
This bulletin is being revised to add additional model years and to clarify warranty coverage. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 04-07-30-013 (Section 07 -- Transmission/Transaxle).

DO THIS
First, Inspect the vehicle for a reusable aftermarket excessivelyover- oiled air filter

DON'T DO THIS
DO NOT repair MAF sensors under warranty if concerns result from the use of an excessively/over-oiled aftermarket, reusable air filter.

The use of an excessively/over-oiled aftermarket, reusable air filter may result in:
• Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On
• Transmission shift concerns, slipping and damaged clutch(es) or band(s)
• Engine driveability concerns, poor acceleration from a stop, limited engine RPM range
The oil that is used on these air filter elements may be transferred onto the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor causing contamination of the sensor. As a result, the Grams per Second (GPS) signal from the MAF may be low and any or all of the concerns listed above may occur.
When servicing a vehicle with any of these concerns, be sure to check for the presence of an aftermarket reusable, excessively/over- oiled air filter. The MAF, GPS reading should be compared to a like vehicle with an OEM air box and filter under the same driving conditions to verify the concern.
The use of an aftermarket reusable air filter DOES NOT void the vehicle's warranty.
If an aftermarket reusable air filter is used, technicians should inspect the MAF sensor element and the air induction hose for contamination of oil prior to making warranty repairs.
Transmission or engine driveability concerns (related to the MAF sensor being contaminated with oil) that are the result of the use of an aftermarket reusable, excessively/over-oiled air filter are not considered to be warrantable repair items."
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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You know there is a law saying that a wearable part such as an air filter, cannot be the cause of a problem with a car? And K & N also says that their air filter cant lose the vehicles warranty. So if I were u I would talk to them bout that and maybe even call K & N.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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i never understand people who mod their cars and expect gm to fix it
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Underhizzle
Well thanks for everyones input... im going to take it back to the dealership its back to stock so we will see
So i'm guessing you were running a high boost tune cause you didn't answer the question
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Check the cylinders 75 75 then 150 and 150 there suppose to be around 180 i think or around there
was this a dry or wet test also if it is accurate then sounds like a blown head gasket between the two 75 cylinders
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