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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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Question Couple questions for e85

Is the upgraded cam lobe fine for E on 26 psi? Will the GMPP clutch be fine for holding that power and is fine for no lift shifting? How long before I need injector seals?

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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NLS is always risky when anything above GMS1 power levels. Use it only if you think you need that extra bit to win.
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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The first two questions will be determined by the competency of your tuner. Although straight e85 you might still run out of fuel
You can nls but its generally thought of as not a good idea when you're tuned unless changing the trans is ok
If youre running e85 you need the proper injector seals immediately i can never remember which but i think they came on 2010
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
Is the upgraded cam lobe fine for E on 26 psi? Will the GMPP clutch be fine for holding that power and is fine for no lift shifting? How long before I need injector seals?

These are questions for an LNF.
Im fully bolted and added the fuel lobe cam so I could just run strait e85 instead of mixing with more power to boot. Installed cam, filled tank with E85(e70 around here) and headed picked up my tuner. On a 26-27 psi spike rail pressure dropped big time. After getting it dialed to a point where rail pressure wasn't an issue, I wasn't happy with the torque. So I reverted back to mixing. I'm now running E50 fuel mixture (2:1 mixture in my area) and no signs of rail pressure drop during the tq hit. Some may ask "why not just turn the boost down or bring it in a little slower?" LOL F that! I wanted max power and tq with a very hard hit. TQ wins races too.

Before the fuel lobe cam, I was running a 50/50 (1:1) mixture which ended up with an ethanol content of ~e35 because the E85 in my area is generally only 70% ethanol or "e70", and my premium gas contained 0% ethanol.
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 01:22 AM
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so I have to get bigger injectors too?
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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zzp should have the opel injectors and o-rings that you need.

gota pay to play lol
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 01:04 PM
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I thought with opel injectors and the e85 fuel pump you shouldn't worry about fuel cutting off?

Edit: on stock cam I mean.
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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I'm still amazed this guy hasn't been flamed yet for not using the search feature. His question has been asked and answered numerous times plus he's not even a new member! Lmao anyways, yes u need the upgraded fuel lobe, opel injectors, n most importantly a revised tune. Good luck.
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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
These are questions for an LNF.
These questions for the LNF have been answered many times.

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Is the upgraded cam lobe fine for E on 26 psi? Will the GMPP clutch be fine for holding that power and is fine for no lift shifting? How long before I need injector seals?
You do not need an upgraded fuel lobe to run ethanol unless you're going to attempt to run full E85 or plan to run ethanol with a larger turbo. Running full on E85 is a waste of time any way as you will hit a wall of diminished results past 50% ethanol content with DI (not to mention an incredibly soft midrange to keep rail pressure in check). No, you don't need large injectors either. For what it's worth, I run E30 (just enough to reach my performance goals without affecting fuel mileage) in my personal car and have no issue running 22-23lbs and 21* of timing up top that is fed in rather quickly.

26lbs on the stock turbo? Why....

The stock clutch and GMPP are more than adequate to handle the torque as long as you're keeping your brake fluid maintained properly, your driving habits in check and a competent tuner. NLS should be used sparingly. The transmission isn't made of glass but it's not exactly robust either. Again, this goes back to driving habits, maintaining the brake fluid (common reservoir for both brake MC and clutch MC) and having a competent tuner.

No, you do not NEED injector seals. If your stockers fail, replace them. However, it's not as common as people will have you believe.

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I'm still amazed this guy hasn't been flamed yet for not using the search feature. His question has been asked and answered numerous times plus he's not even a new member!
This horse has been beaten and beaten well.
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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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He has a 2010. His injector seals are fine.

For the clutch, there are too many variables involved to determine if yours will hold up. A gmpp clutch will be more than adequate to hold the power with the stock turbo regardless of fuel though.

You also don't need opel injectors or cam lobe with e47 on the stock turbo unless your tuner's an idiot. If you're running straight e85, you may need an upgraded cam lobe depending on how aggressive you decide to go with things.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
He has a 2010. His injector seals are fine.

For the clutch, there are too many variables involved to determine if yours will hold up. A gmpp clutch will be more than adequate to hold the power with the stock turbo regardless of fuel though.

You also don't need opel injectors or cam lobe with e47 on the stock turbo unless your tuner's an idiot. If you're running straight e85, you may need an upgraded cam lobe depending on how aggressive you decide to go with things.
I lost that car to an accident in dec 2014, I now have a 2009 SS sedan with an intake, catless dp, upper ic pipe, and 3 bar with a trifecta canned tune. Could I go find my old white one and take the injectors off of that and put them on this one then get the fuel lobe, zzp ic, cam lobe and tune for e85? I know i'll need a clutch since this one is slipping bad lol.

All said and done I want to run Full e85 on an aggressive tune on 26 psi on a MBC. I was thinking about going with the GMPP clutch go save my tranny since I will ALWAYS be NLSing.

I possibly could take that turbo off of it too cause it's brand new. Only like 2 months old
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
I lost that car to an accident in dec 2014, I now have a 2009 SS sedan with an intake, catless dp, upper ic pipe, and 3 bar with a trifecta canned tune. Could I go find my old white one and take the injectors off of that and put them on this one then get the fuel lobe, zzp ic, cam lobe and tune for e85? I know i'll need a clutch since this one is slipping bad lol.

All said and done I want to run Full e85 on an aggressive tune on 26 psi on a MBC. I was thinking about going with the GMPP clutch go save my tranny since I will ALWAYS be NLSing.

I possibly could take that turbo off of it too cause it's brand new. Only like 2 months old


You're hopeless dude.
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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You're hopeless dude.
qfe
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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You're hopeless dude.
You need jesus, that's what you need.
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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You need jesus, that's what you need.
And you need an education.
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
I lost that car to an accident in dec 2014, I now have a 2009 SS sedan with an intake, catless dp, upper ic pipe, and 3 bar with a trifecta canned tune. Could I go find my old white one and take the injectors off of that and put them on this one then get the fuel lobe, zzp ic, cam lobe and tune for e85? I know i'll need a clutch since this one is slipping bad lol.

All said and done I want to run Full e85 on an aggressive tune on 26 psi on a MBC. I was thinking about going with the GMPP clutch go save my tranny since I will ALWAYS be NLSing.

I possibly could take that turbo off of it too cause it's brand new. Only like 2 months old
Why is gods name would you even consider using a MBC with the stock turbo?? That's absolutely ridiculous and completely counter productive on so many different levels.

Good luck with saving that trans with a gmpp clutch, coupled with your MBC and constantly nlsing btw.
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 12:04 AM
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Couple questions for e85

Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Why is gods name would you even consider using a MBC with the stock turbo?? That's absolutely ridiculous and completely counter productive on so many different levels.

Good luck with saving that trans with a gmpp clutch, coupled with your MBC and constantly nlsing btw.
he needs it because trifecta
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
I lost that car to an accident in dec 2014, I now have a 2009 SS sedan with an intake, catless dp, upper ic pipe, and 3 bar with a trifecta canned tune. Could I go find my old white one and take the injectors off of that and put them on this one then get the fuel lobe, zzp ic, cam lobe and tune for e85? I know i'll need a clutch since this one is slipping bad lol.

All said and done I want to run Full e85 on an aggressive tune on 26 psi on a MBC. I was thinking about going with the GMPP clutch go save my tranny since I will ALWAYS be NLSing.

I possibly could take that turbo off of it too cause it's brand new. Only like 2 months old
no wonder your clutch slips. MBCs and k04s are fun, ask me how i know lolol
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 07:25 PM
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I foresee Cobalt #3 in your near future. While I totally understand the "getting the most out of wht I've got" attitude to modifications, I've never understood the "Neil Armstrong only went to the moon" attitude so many dream chasers have.

You ask some legitimate questions, but not sure why you are looking to do so much to the LNF.
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