SSlobalt

I never tried 100% in 1st, but 100% in 2nd is already ridiculous. Just small movements on the pedal makes it start spinning. I like the torque reduction, myself. If it were a cable-throttle, maybe I would feel differently.

09CobaltSS1

Of course I'm not quite sure how your tune is set up, but the way I have the boost ramp in on mine it's really not nearly as bad as it sounds. I mean if you go wot in first or second then yeah, forget it, the tires are of course going to just roast. Just try rolling into the throttle a bit more and that "on/off switch" feel to the power curve should settle down a bit. Again, it's really just a preferance thing here. I'd be silly to say that a 300+whp fwd car on street tires is going to just launch at wot with little to no wheel spin without some sort of torque management or traction control helping you along the way. I've just personally always liked having full control of what goes on with the engine rpm and wheel spin via my size 10.5 instead of nanny controls.... I'm just a simple simple man brotha..

Gremlin85

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We wear the same size shoe

09CobaltSS1

haha.... now here's the kicker (wow did I just make an awful pun).... ready for it?

BOTH of our name's are John.... freakin craziness!!!!

Gremlin85

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09CobaltSS1

hahahaha.... I knew that shiz would officially blow your mind!

Chevycobaltss3

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My name is James, can i be a bad ass?

CmplXty

..My shoe is 10.5 and my ....middle name is John!

can i haz cool 2 plx?

Sonicyeller

Full E85. 25psi spike, holds 24, tapers to ~20 at 6200rpm. 26* of timing almost straight across the rev range. CCSS3 tuned like a bawse.

SSlobalt

You're one of the lucky ones who has a good HPFP. I would loved to have stayed on pure E85 just so I don't have to switch pumps, but my HPFP wouldn't keep up.

soundjunky

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I have a question to the knowledgeable people in this thread;

isn't much of what I bolded primarily a tuning constraint that will vary from one local to the next?
I mean at different elevations, and different air qualities you need to adjust the tune... don't you?

I mean that I would think that someone at sea level would be able to run a more aggressive tune, than someone in say Colorado...

Am I wrong?

...if I am right, wouldn't that make the whole intent of this thread self-defeating?

I really need to see if I can get my Moates stuff working... ugg.
I'd love to start monkeying around with this stuff...

Chevycobaltss3

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Technically yes, mainly because the air quality and etc. Basically for sonicyeller to have his boost I have to command a lot more wgdc then I would have at a sea level car.. his car is a little easier to get on full e mainly because the air. It I've been able to get many others on full e at elevations at sea level and etc.

SSlobalt

We're starting to muck up Aaron's thread.

AARON-SS-TC

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Lol, thanks...
So much good info so far.
My tuner said he had his boost in his car set @ 75% in 1st, and 100% the rest of the gears if i remember correct.
I am not gonna be slamming the thottle in 1st or 2nd, so i dont see why i couldnt have 100% all the way through unless the car surges down low with full boost...

Nobody has answered my question about raising the rpms...

Btw, im at sea level in florida

Gremlin85

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With stock valvetrain I wouldn't raise the rpm's up higher than 6500 in any gear. Just asking for trouble after that.

09CobaltSS1

^^this

I have mine set at 6700 so I can shift at 6500 but 6500 rev limit is definitely a bit safer....

soundjunky

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I concur.

AARON-SS-TC

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thanks for answering that guys. Common sense say not to raise it if the motor isnt built to do that, but i know some people go as high as 7k redline, and the gms1 raises it to 6500rpms.

Just wondering. thought i could balance out the power a bit and make the gears last longer because @ wot, i feel like it comes way to fast...At least when my car was running good...lol

AARON-SS-TC

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so when you guys speek of torque management in the tune, what is that exactly doing? and dont say managing the torque...lol

AARON-SS-TC

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nobody else?

AARON-SS-TC

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so, i am getting my intercooler and forge bpv this weekend. I was told getting the intercooler will allow me to raise my timing safely. Right now im only @ 14*, and even at 15* when i was getting tuned seemed like a much faster car. So what is the most timing people are getting safely on a 93oct gas tune?

09CobaltSS1

14-15* is really pretty common on 93. The most I could get out of my car on gas was 15*. It really varies from car to car, your boost levels and your climate though. Some engines can just naturally run more timing than others even in a similar climate so it's sort of a crap shoot at times.

I really wouldn't get your hopes up too much as far as being able to get much more timing out of the car with the new ic. When I compared the iat2's from my stocker to my zzp ic, there really wasn't much of a difference in temps at all to make a difference unfortunately. It is however well worth the investment in an aftermarket ic purely just to have the peace of mind knowing that you now have metal endtanks instead of crappy plastic ones..

CmplXty

Finally got my car squared away!

20 PSI tune by Gremlin85 HPTuners
15* timing
Its been raining here so I haven't had much time to really know what my car does at WOT besides flutter between 19.~ to 20.~ psi.

AARON-SS-TC

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thank for all of your help/input man...i figured timing probably did vary because i have heard of people getting 17* on 93 safely as well, so we will see what happens..
i guess i just wanna get an idea of what my car is fully capable of safely, and i wanna reach it.
What i dont get is if we have say 400wtq, and race a 350z or a mustang or even a honda accord that is heavier and way less torque, but yet pulls bad until our cars get up to speed..makes no sense, but i wanna feel every bit of power my car is putting down, and when my car was first tuned, it still didnt feel like a real powerful car till 4th gear then it seemed to come alive...maybe too much torque management?

SSlobalt

The power ratings you hear for our cars are peak ratings. That power doesn't last long and only comes in at a certain RPM window, so you have to wait for it.