Direct bolt-on turbo (ko4 replacement)
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Well first thing, both turbos don't loose power up top unless its a inefficient boost setting. That goes for all turbos. The 20g on "24 with a spike of 26" didn't loose one bit of power. Just tq.
I also never said you can make 500whp on the 20g. I said you can make good power on the 20g.
And I'm on a custom turbo setup I've made... It's stil a td06/t3 cartridge but the 20g is a 52mm and my new in wheel is a 63mm along with a 3in compressor cover with surge protection. This turbo I'm at now makes 950/975cfm per mitsu and Garrett tables I've seen.
I also never said you can make 500whp on the 20g. I said you can make good power on the 20g.
And I'm on a custom turbo setup I've made... It's stil a td06/t3 cartridge but the 20g is a 52mm and my new in wheel is a 63mm along with a 3in compressor cover with surge protection. This turbo I'm at now makes 950/975cfm per mitsu and Garrett tables I've seen.
This was a seperate question James from me and only me. It had nothing to do with what Aaron was asking besides me being curious about a total maximum output of the S20G
I say 480 and some change max
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LOL, bro I facepalm(in a brotherly way) when you ask this and I understand that your just wanting to see what your options are, but this was discussed before when we posted pics and info about the WR2....it has a precision center cartridge. So... your wish has been granted.
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaat.
LOL. How did I miss that after all this research that the flippin pwerks turbo was precision?
I'm in on this. the price sucks ass, but precision turbos seem to have it all.
Sorry for being a ******* this time...haha
LOL. How did I miss that after all this research that the flippin pwerks turbo was precision?
I'm in on this. the price sucks ass, but precision turbos seem to have it all.
Sorry for being a ******* this time...haha
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaat.
LOL. How did I miss that after all this research that the flippin pwerks turbo was precision?
I'm in on this. the price sucks ass, but precision turbos seem to have it all.
Sorry for being a ******* this time...haha
LOL. How did I miss that after all this research that the flippin pwerks turbo was precision?
I'm in on this. the price sucks ass, but precision turbos seem to have it all.
Sorry for being a ******* this time...haha
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sounds good...im all in...thats right, unless something happens, i will be buying the wr2-b by the end of the year hopefully...
i wonder what psi i would need to be at to get the 425-450whp on 93 gas???
i wonder what psi i would need to be at to get the 425-450whp on 93 gas???
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24-26psi is my guess, Aaron what is your goal? I've seen 419whp-425, now your asking about goals in the 425-450 range. Like I said, I can tell your very excited, as I am for you but you change mind on an hourly basis. Anyways, the Werks turbo is going to be a badass turbo. End of the year huh? So I'm guessing Santa is bringing you this turbo? Maybe I should just go straight to him to figure what turbo you'll eventually get. LOL
But will take sometime to finish first james
I've seen the s20g and the s25g at work. and they are pretty dang good turbos IMO.
I mean even the BNR is a great turbo. but you can Farther with the s20g turbo as james did on his.. Which i STILL havent drove it yet hahaha
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it says its rated for 450whp for our cars, so i just was trying to get an idea of psi is all. thanks james, i was figuring 26-28psi.
James, when do you think you'll have info on what you are trying to make???
James, when do you think you'll have info on what you are trying to make???
I'm already done with my custom direct bolt on setup. I doubt ill sell it. The Zzp Efr is rated for 450 (crank horsepower) only way to get more horsepower then its rated is higher boost, aggressive tuning and different fuels with higher octane.
Mfgs of turbos give rated power per turbo output of flow . So it's rated off crank horsepower.
Mfgs of turbos give rated power per turbo output of flow . So it's rated off crank horsepower.
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There is a 25G? Wow, James please enlighten us with Mitsu Turbo history.
Anyways, I still didn't get a clear answer from you regarding the S20G and what you think Total(Max)WHP is on it. I know that optimally its a 450rated turbo.
Anyways, I still didn't get a clear answer from you regarding the S20G and what you think Total(Max)WHP is on it. I know that optimally its a 450rated turbo.
20g chp rating is 420-460 depending on what size in wheel, 50mm, 51.5,52mm.
But the Hahn s20g which is a 52mm is rated at 450chp 500chp most with high boost 30psi+
And my turbo isn't just a 25g, I had to find a few parts to make my setup work. You should know about the mitsu family turbos lol
Zzp made that on a lot of boost, I believe there 2.1L, and more.
But the Hahn s20g which is a 52mm is rated at 450chp 500chp most with high boost 30psi+
And my turbo isn't just a 25g, I had to find a few parts to make my setup work. You should know about the mitsu family turbos lol
Zzp made that on a lot of boost, I believe there 2.1L, and more.
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here ya go. states that it supports up to 450whp
here ya go. states that it supports up to 450whp
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24-26psi is my guess, Aaron what is your goal? I've seen 419whp-425, now your asking about goals in the 425-450 range. Like I said, I can tell your very excited, as I am for you but you change mind on an hourly basis. Anyways, the Werks turbo is going to be a badass turbo. End of the year huh? So I'm guessing Santa is bringing you this turbo? Maybe I should just go straight to him to figure what turbo you'll eventually get. LOL
btw 425whp/400wtq on 93 gas and reliable is what i am after...
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Efr is rated at 490 chp. It can flow 49lbs/min at 29 psi if i read the compressor map correctly. If i had a choice and i knew what james.did i would have gone 20g got james bigger wheel and housing. Build motor. 500whp+ easy. If u want 400 whp or maybe 450 on super aggresive with e or meth zfr or bnr ot regular 20g is chill. All turbos are great.
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i know enough to know that 425whp is not gonna blow up my car. i am gonna get the zzp springs/titanium retainers and replace the timing chain tensioner while im in there and i should be fine till 7k redline...you guys like messin with me, but its all good...haha