You only have one nozzle haha? I'm kidding of course in the truck in my sig I have three 3gph nozzles. Course its a diesel and its 3x the size. I already run at almost ambient temps with my charged air cooler right now on the balt. When I mod it I might have to do meth to keep it cooler. What is your IAT at when you are running hard at the track?

 

when im out street tuning my iat2 is 120s but it is 110 out here in az

 

Damn, mine haven't broken 100 degrees yet. Course I live in San Diego and its been a cool summer. I'll be headed out to Tuscon in September though so I will get some of that 120 action going. Not at all excited about it.

 

^ lol i made your sig.

 

actually i will be headed out to san diego in sept. i have a beach house for 2 weeks will be nice to get away from this az heat

 

Haha thats funny. Well on my way back in the end of September I'll roll through phoenix, want to hit up the drag strip?

 

ya im free on sat nights and that when they have it open we have two tracks out here

 

PM sent

 

That's really not necessary.. We only need the tables to be unlocked via HPT or use Trifecta's tuning for more fuel pressure. What you're talking about is someone going for broke.

And no, those of us with strictly tuning only, dabbling with corn are not maxing our fuel systems. Now, throw in VE increasing mods and you will find the limit as to how much you can safely run, very quickly



If you're running 50/50 E85/E10 then I wouldn't worry about the Meth anymore. You're getting more than enough charge cooling effects from the E85. PM me if you would like.

Gotta love AZ

 

Please tell me you know that E85 does not cool the IAT's any. It's not introduced until the combustion chamber... so... it's a colder burning fuel but the intake charge is still coming in at w/e it is

 

wheres e85 around here tom?

 

Gas America by my place (uber convenient), Franklin Meijer, Englewood Meijer, and Huber Heights Kroger. Let me know when you wanna experience the tvs/e85 terror in Dayton. It's at top performance (for now.. soon, something will fail like always. Prob that ******* roll pin)

 

hell ya i wanna check it out, wheres the meijer in franklin? i thought there was only a walmart kmart and kroger? im off until wensday if you get free time let me know i def wanna check your car out

before i knew who you were i always saw your car and wondered what was done to it, i would get so jealous to see it roll past my building, i envy

 

There was a blue ss/sc parked across from your usual spot on fri night. Know him? You weren't there when I was tho

 

ya thats whitechapel on here he live in carlisle bout 10 minutes away hes a good friend, hes down for a cruise or what not any time, i was in the hospital thursday night and had to leave my car at work, i was home just left my car at work till late friday night

 

Well ****, should've txtd ya.

Back to the E85 discussion, I dialed in my tune some last night. TVS, 2.8 pulley, ported head, and 80's for the main goodies. 8.4 afr 23* timing 19psi iat2 94-132. My clutch hates me and 06arrivalsc (Mark) said his stomach rose to his chest like a roller coaster! 2nd gear is insane IF it grips and doesn't slip the clutch.

 

Bring that sucker to indy.. we'll race.. and the winner will be determined by least amount of clutch slip..

 

****, at this point, it's nearly a draw. By the time I get to Indy, it'll be useless for me to even try lol

 

oh i def. gotta check this out

 

Please tell me you realize you're in the LNF section.


Yes, I realize that running E85 will not directly affect IAT's like injecting Methanol will. However, Ethanol cools dramatically when atomized and will in turn help to cool the charge and reduce some KR brought on by excessive heat (IAT..).

Combine this awesome characteristic of E85 with the fact that the LNF is a GDi motor, which is known for it's innate ability to cool the air charge due to the fuel being injected directly into the combustion chamber and you get a much cooler air charge versus running straight pump fuel.

I've already told FF ace that if his tuner is recommending that he continue to utilize the Meth, then he should do so as his tuner would know his car/setup best.

 

Soooo, you're saying that unless I have an LNF I shouldn't reply? Yeah it went off topic, but the post you quoted was still relevant. The point at which the in-coming air is measured is what dictates the calculations in the PCM. When that occurs, the E85 is not cooling anything. But, I have an LSJ. I'll move on from your thread

 

No, you can post where you please. My point with that was that we're talking about direct injection and CHARGE COOLING.


Again, we're not talking about IAT cooling, you are. Not once did I say anything about cooling the IAT's with E85.

Yes, IAT's do in fact dictate calculations within the PCM but doesn't excessive heat in the combustion process add to the potential of knock/knock retard, especially under boost? And if you can cool the hot air that's been introduced into the combustion chamber, then that's good, yes?

Blah, I give up. Enjoy your e85 and I will do the same.