Yep, I have mine set up that way too. **** feels good.

 

now just throw more timing at it and play with us big boys....

 

what about using a borg warner 251 or 256 turbo?

 

the 256 is a good choice just a lil big for my tastes

 

More timing? I'm already at 19*. Pretty sure I have it nailed down, I am just running it safely rich. My dyno numbers were less that respectable, but the dyno is really conservative. I only dyno'd 219/219 stock. 247/274 tuned.

 

19* back it down... looses power over about 17* from my findings... although it feels better up top!

what afr are you running.... see my dyno was 262 and 258 stock and now 363 and 394 as of yesterday

 

I am running .90. I have a dyno I can go play on now, so that will be helpful.

 

.90 lambda and 19* of timing... whattt? Are you on racegas or something???

 

So im looking for a Turbo that will give me more power (around 450hp), but react a lil slower than the stock Turbo, since i dont like roasting my tires through 2nd gear... lol! I was looking into the K04 buy decided not to because i wont get over 400hp and the spool time would be pretty much the same as stock. So what would be the best Turbo to go with? GT28 or GT30? My car is a Daily Driver and i would like something that spools decently quick but still gives me around 450 hp.

 

the k04 is the stock turbo

 

When i say K04 i mean the wheel upgrade. sorry for not specifying.

 

GT28 would get you plenty of power.

 

yeah i just mentioned it for those who were looking at the gt 30, i like the 251 still a bit big for what i want but will get it done. the 251 and 256 are twin scroll as well or no?

wow thats impressive, what mods do you got?

 

Nope. I confused my racegas tune and street tune, lol. Racegas tune is on .90 at 21*, but street tune is 18* at .87.

 

yeah im kinda leaning tward the GT28. and i think ima go with the Synapse kit.

 

LOL, ya your going to light them up but at that power range the driver mod is FTW. you learn to discipline your foot on lifting than you should be ok. Then again at that power range your tranny is out side of it's comfort zone. To be completely honest a street FWD car making 450hp FTL. That kinda power is for loooonnngg straight aways. 1/4 mile or course tracks aren't really that suited

 

Well depending on how it goes in AZ, im moving there in feb, after im done with school i might try to get me a 67-69 Camaro project. Ive always wanted one and love the look of them. If i do i wont put a bigger turbo on the cobalt, ill just make a beast of the Camaro.

 

Camaro Beast

 

Synapse got back to me about upgrading turbos. They said they would upgrade to the 3071r for an additional 100 dollars. The 3076r on the other hand will not fit onto their setup.

 

how do i attain these numbers??

 

that my friend is the million dollar question

 

using 262WHP as his stock HP and now he's at 363WHP and my car along with others dyno right at the 240WHP stock. Ok, thats leaves you a 9.17% discrepency between 240 and 262. Theory tells me that the dyno he uses reads 9.17% high. therefore his WHP on more realistic dyno would be ~330WHP. Off my calculations i see 358WTQ.

NOTE:my theory, not necessarily correct

 

^ this would make sense

 

well id like to see these numbers someday..... it would be awesome!! but you can only do so much before you compromise daily drivability... i need to find a DP... anyone sellin one lol

 

lets say a cobalt turbo has this kit and puts down 375 whp... is there any possible traction mods that would completely eliminate 3rd gear traction problems, and dampen most of the traction problems in 2nd gear... ex: wider tires, tranny mounts, torque limiter

or is this kind of power simply unctrollable for a fwd cobalt?