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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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i was told the stock turbo doesnt benefit from the cut out, a bigger turbo will tho
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by startingline05
you mean to tell me you dont gain anything when you get rid of bends and a res and a muffler? Sorry but I find that hard to believe. I could have sworn i have seen people prove the hp gain on dynos from cut out at downpipe compared to full exhaust. I honestly feel like there is a difference. but maybe the turbo spoils quicker when its open pipe, i dunno. Anyone else want to chime in?
Yes I mean to tell you lol. We tried it. I have a full 3 inch exhaust, magnaflow resonator zzp big turbo down pipe and picked up one whp when it was disconnected. You have to think on a big turbo set up most likely they have a open dump wastegate there for there is not to much exhaust even going through the exhaust. Maybe with an efr or recirc exhaust it will be different.
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by startingline05
it may sound like crap with just normal driving but the gains you get from getting rid of all those restrictions and bends in the exhaust are very worth it.
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you mean to tell me you dont gain anything when you get rid of bends and a res and a muffler? Sorry but I find that hard to believe. I could have sworn i have seen people prove the hp gain on dynos from cut out at downpipe compared to full exhaust. I honestly feel like there is a difference. but maybe the turbo spoils quicker when its open pipe, i dunno. Anyone else want to chime in?
I'm sorry but this is incorrect.... With the stock turbo at least.

The stock turbo will never EVER flow enough to fight any sort of restriction from a 3" pipe unless you makde some serious pinch points, use a chambered muffler or just do some sort of absolutely rediculous bends.

It's funny you make mention of people comparing dyno numbers from one exhaust setup to another. I actually did exactly that a while back when I was swapping between my current exhaust (catless dp, 3" pipe to a 12"x4" resonator as a muffler exiting out the rear), my previous setup (catless dp, stock exhaust with the resonator removed), and the side exit with a catless dp. Funny thing is my current setup and the stock catback made basically identical power curves and peak power, however the side exit netted me a slight loss of peak torque and nominal hp gains (both of which can even be chocked up to the variences in dyno pulls).

This was all on the same tune, in similar atmospheric conditions and the same dyno mind you.
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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With the 3" DP without the cat i feel a little gain with the cutout open, but it feels like it lost power on the low end. When i have the cat in it's night and day difference with the cutout open but it also dumps before the cat.
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Yes I mean to tell you lol. We tried it. I have a full 3 inch exhaust, magnaflow resonator zzp big turbo down pipe and picked up one whp when it was disconnected. You have to think on a big turbo set up most likely they have a open dump wastegate there for there is not to much exhaust even going through the exhaust. Maybe with an efr or recirc exhaust it will be different.
That's good to know, well at least it is still fun to confuse other drivers with lol.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Cobalt SS side exit - YouTube
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
I'm sorry but this is incorrect.... With the stock turbo at least.

The stock turbo will never EVER flow enough to fight any sort of restriction from a 3" pipe unless you makde some serious pinch points, use a chambered muffler or just do some sort of absolutely rediculous bends.

It's funny you make mention of people comparing dyno numbers from one exhaust setup to another. I actually did exactly that a while back when I was swapping between my current exhaust (catless dp, 3" pipe to a 12"x4" resonator as a muffler exiting out the rear), my previous setup (catless dp, stock exhaust with the resonator removed), and the side exit with a catless dp. Funny thing is my current setup and the stock catback made basically identical power curves and peak power, however the side exit netted me a slight loss of peak torque and nominal hp gains (both of which can even be chocked up to the variences in dyno pulls).

This was all on the same tune, in similar atmospheric conditions and the same dyno mind you.
this is great info here. why havent you said anything before on the previous thousand thread on exhaust?...lol
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Any videos of TC with rear exit, no cat, no muffler?
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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My HHR SS is almost to loud for a daily with a catless DP and 3" magnaflow.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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wait dont you own a skittle? i know this car from somewhere i just cant remember where....
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RedEcotecSS
Any videos of TC with rear exit, no cat, no muffler?
theres a lot on youtbue
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
wait dont you own a skittle? i know this car from somewhere i just cant remember where....
you only knew i posted YOUR video on here because i told u. cobalt is sleeping outside tonight now
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hmrn4gater15
you only knew i posted YOUR video on here because i told u. cobalt is sleeping outside tonight now
FFFFFFUUUUU!!!!!
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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If only there was a way to make an ss/sc sound like that.. lol heres another narly sounding one!
BW EFR 6758 09 Cobalt SS (driving normal + half throttle pulls) - YouTube
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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That's my car ^^
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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all i read was OP, and have not read ANY comments/replies below... and all i am going to say is that this exhaust is riced the **** out.. im sorry...

and do NOT bash me because you know damn right that if you saw this on a civic you would say the same thing.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by damastah
all i read was OP, and have not read ANY comments/replies below... and all i am going to say is that this exhaust is riced the **** out.. im sorry...

and do NOT bash me because you know damn right that if you saw this on a civic you would say the same thing.
i have that on my civic hood exit though
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
this is great info here. why havent you said anything before on the previous thousand thread on exhaust?...lol
Because I'm a selfish bastard damnit!

I'm pretty sure I did at one point post these results a while ago actually. Maybe like 1.5-2 years back.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RedEcotecSS
Any videos of TC with rear exit, no cat, no muffler?
cobalt ss straight piped - YouTube
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by damastah
all i read was OP, and have not read ANY comments/replies below... and all i am going to say is that this exhaust is riced the **** out.. im sorry...

and do NOT bash me because you know damn right that if you saw this on a civic you would say the same thing.
find me a honda that sounds nearly as good as my car or any other posted in here. you cant compare the two. Some people need the 3'' straight piping due to their turbo.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
find me a honda that sounds nearly as good as my car or any other posted in here. you cant compare the two. Some people need the 3'' straight piping due to their turbo.
wtf are you talking about? some people need the 3" straight piping due to their turbo? what the hell does that even mean dude? that is no where near close to what i even meant!

yea, put a 3" pipe on your car. go for it. im not saying 3" is bad.... i have 3" on my car, and i think most LNFs should have 3" all the way back.

im just straight talking about the sound of the car
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
find me a honda that sounds nearly as good as my car or any other posted in here. you cant compare the two. Some people need the 3'' straight piping due to their turbo.
i know plenty of hondas that sounds just as good or better lol
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DebadgedBALT77
i know plenty of hondas that sounds just as good or better lol
mostly anything sounds good with a turbo on it.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by damastah
wtf are you talking about? some people need the 3" straight piping due to their turbo? what the hell does that even mean dude? that is no where near close to what i even meant!

yea, put a 3" pipe on your car. go for it. im not saying 3" is bad.... i have 3" on my car, and i think most LNFs should have 3" all the way back.

im just straight talking about the sound of the car
so the first video, that car sounds like rice? i think the sound quality of the video makes it seem that way more than anything
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