yea I just don't feel very good about running that 5th injector setup. I wish I hadn't seen such bad things happen with meth too or i'd just run that. mainly just can't run E cause of running out of fuel. if it weren't for that i'd be on E in a heart beat cause it's pretty common around here and I loved being on it in my LSJ for the 18 months I was on it. I really wanna find the 450whp mark. I'm just stumped why I made 336. my turbo is bigger than a regular 20g. it flows more lbs/min. I was at 52lbs/min while ccss3 was tuning me. and was showing 26 psi on the dyno. i'm tuned for 24 psi and I don't have 3 bar maps yet so that's why i'm only on 24 psi, but the dyno read 26 psi. so it just makes me wonder where's the power gonna come from? if i'm not making that much on 26 psi. I know 9* mid and 13* up top isn't a lot of timing. but adding a few degrees of timing isn't gonna make 100 more whp suddenly lol.

 

Timing definitely plays a big part on power wise. I could definitely feel the power being adjusted and gaining when doing my logs. My previous tune from someone, who I won't mention, was jumpy, not really responsive, and it felt like it took forever for the turbo to spool between gears and higher rpms (only spooled super good in the midrange rpms.) New tuner Who can find from some of his threads and my sig, made one hell of a difference.

Why are your timing only 9* mid and 13* up top? Are you still tuned by james? Something just doesn't add up if you're flowing 52lbs/min, dyno'd at 336, and this timing method....?

I don't know why people end up running a bigger turbo and not getting the 3 bar sensors. To me it doesn't make sense that you're willing to dish out money for the bigger turbo, but not $150 more for the 3 bars? Just seems odd...

 

he only tuned me for 9 and 13 because i'm still on the stock clutch right now and stock motor as well. so he wasn't making me very aggressive because of that. as for the sensors everytime i'm about to buy them something comes up. this week it was tires. had a nail in 1 of my tires and the tread is getting so low it just wasn't really worth repairing and so I went out and got some nittos. within the next month i'll be hopefully be purchasing the 3 bars. then when him and I find time i'll install them and get a retune for more aggressive timing and also see if theres any hints as to why my power was so low. I have a feeling my filter directly on the turbo has a fair amount of play in it cause on the dyno my iats were hot as ****.

 

I'm on stock motor but not clutch. It shouldn't matter though. If the clutch is gonna slip, its gonna slip. There's nothing you can do about it just like my trans breaking. Go big or go home. He gave me a ton of excuses as to why I couldn't get more out of my car. I knew it was capable of more, so I went else where. I did and got exactly what I wanted. An incredible car that I knew it was capable of more. IMHO, get another tuner... Not bashing. Just speaking the truth.

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I asked for the mild tune. and I've been with james for almost 3 years now. he did all the tuning on my lsj. and the dyno that I just dyno'd on I put down 287 whp on a 2.9" pulley and E85. when I was on k04 on 93 I put down 317/359. I specifically told him I wanted a very mild tune to make sure the clutch was going to hold up ok and because I hadn't gotten 3 bar maps yet. once I get the 3 bars i'll have him make it much more aggressive and invest in a clutch whether I need one at the moment or not just to have it sitting and ready for when I do.

 

The other thing that doesn't make sense on the numbers is a local made on the same dyno. 346 whp and 4xx wtq. he's fully bolted on the k04 with E47 and Wiesco pistons. we ran from 60-135 the other night and I pulled 3/4 of a car by the end of the run. that's with him using NLS 3rd to 4th. I did brake boost. and we both had a passenger. that's the other funny thing about my numbers. his 346whp/4xxwtq. my 336whp/306wtq.

 

K04 only pulls so far as the 25g will pull far past redline and more. You have more up too compared to him. That's all that's to it.

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zzp just listed bigger LNF injectors on their facebook page.

 

Also a thread on here.

 

oh cool, I dont spend as much time on here as I used to, missed it.

 

Yeah, it was just made yesterday I think.

 

oh I saw lol. if they come out with those soon and they're not ridiculously expensive I will definitely be investing in them so I can run full E.

 

3rd and 4th decent temperature.

 

not bad, but the guy with the e47 stock turbo should have beat you, he must not have the driver mod....lol

 

Were you WOT on this?

 

he's a better driver than I am lol. and he did a NLS from 3rd to 4th.

yes. pedal to the floor

 

Man. I'd be pushing that way more than you are. Barely even seems like its pulling. Its either that or its just the video makes it seem slower than it is. I'm interested in how mine would look on video of doing a 3-4th gear pull.

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It's a video. They always feel slower. I bet riding in car would be a whole different story.

 

That's kind what I was thinking but wasn't sure. I'll have to get a video of me doing a pull or so in mine.

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I clocked him at about a 5.5 second 60-100. I think wert's statement is pretty fair.

 

This, what's the sense of having the turbo and not pushing it?

 

Reliability, fuel, altitude, not enough supporting mods, clutch not up to the task.

 

Then why not just stick with the stock turbo or even a ko4+ at that point? You want a big boy turbo, then you need to be prepared for the work involved to make and maintain a certain power level. His performance is actually worse right now than if he just went with a much smaller turbo. Like kdub said, it's pretty much pointless.

 

Great turbo when used to its potential, but yes a ko4+ would have been a good option. Hoesntly im thinking about going with one, I want to road race the car. Its that or the 6258 or maybe a 6758, not too sure

 

I got the turbo kit because it was up for sale at the time for a decent price. I am still on stock clutch so I specifically told James I didn't want a very aggressive tune because I wanted to wait til I had more money for a clutch set aside that way when the clutch starts slipping I can go right ahead and put the new one in. I had just bought this turbo setup, new rims, and coilovers so I was a little down on cash. The 60-100 time was that slow because I didn't brake boost and added to that he put me on a very slow boost ramp to be easier on the clutch. next time I see him i'll have gms1 sensors and am gonna have him go ahead and give it an aggressive tune. or at least more aggressive than what it is now with a lot more timing as well as a much more aggressive boost ramp.

here is a video of this exact same turbo on James' car with a bit more aggressive tuning.