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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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No the dealership did it. The kid who had it before me melted gears together and burnt the driveline up. So he had the dealership put a whole new drivetrain in minus axle and bearings.

I can go try but I know it will shake under a 3rd pull at 50. I'm taking it to a shop tom to.see if they see anything wrong with the steering components. I'm leaning towards the rack so ill have them check it. Everyone says the SS rack is stout tho so Idk.
Yea try it and let me know. When I do it it's TERRRIBLE I mean TERRIBLE! like the whole cabin just shakes to ****. I was thinking about
Putting it on a dyno and checking it out that way.

Umm idk about any of the steering components man. Like tie rods, end links, rack, etc. doesn't have any rotating mass you know what I'm saying. Hope fully I'll have an axle by this week. Praying!!
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Yeah, local guy with a redline had it happen like that, after I replaced the axles it was smooth as butter
Hopefully man !! I'll definitely keep you guys posted.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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Yea try it and let me know. When I do it it's TERRRIBLE I mean TERRIBLE! like the whole cabin just shakes to ****. I was thinking about
Putting it on a dyno and checking it out that way.

Umm idk about any of the steering components man. Like tie rods, end links, rack, etc. doesn't have any rotating mass you know what I'm saying. Hope fully I'll have an axle by this week. Praying!!
Yea I understand but if those steering parts were bad they would have slack. Load under low rpms is more stressful than going fast at high rpms were its not fighting to make power easy. That struggle to make torque on the low end could reflect back into the steering components weak leak. Sounds hard to understand but my I'M shaft and diff are the only other parts left to rule out.

Try this and see if this switches the vibation side, take you driver cv axle and put it on the passenger side. Then put the pass on the driver. If it switches then you know which axle is bad. If no change its a different issue. Do the same with wheel bearings.

I dont want to kill you hope on the axles but I'm kinda pissed at myself for already replacing them. I also draind the tranny and no metal shavings came out so that at least gives me a little hope the diff is good.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:58 AM
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Yea I understand but if those steering parts were bad they would have slack. Load under low rpms is more stressful than going fast at high rpms were its not fighting to make power easy. That struggle to make torque on the low end could reflect back into the steering components weak leak. Sounds hard to understand but my I'M shaft and diff are the only other parts left to rule out.

Try this and see if this switches the vibation side, take you driver cv axle and put it on the passenger side. Then put the pass on the driver. If it switches then you know which axle is bad. If no change its a different issue. Do the same with wheel bearings.

I dont want to kill you hope on the axles but I'm kinda pissed at myself for already replacing them. I also draind the tranny and no metal shavings came out so that at least gives me a little hope the diff is good.
The right and left axles are the same size? Maybe I'll do that. I already ordered my axle though... And I ordered a built stage 1 zzp trans and put it in myself. I was thinking maybe a mount isn't tightened or maybe the trans mounts aren't sitting correctly or even the hole trans/motor isn't sitting correctly?... Idk. the only thing I could think of in steering is the steering knuckle that slides onto the steering rack shaft and goes into the firewall.

When you turn the wheel from left to right all the way do you hear a continuous pop noise? Like as your turning to the right/left standing still it will be like pop.....pop......pop..pop. Lol.. Not tol good at explaining stuff
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by n.m.racer
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Try this and see if this switches the vibation side, take you driver cv axle and put it on the passenger side. Then put the pass on the driver. If it switches then you know which axle is bad. If no change its a different issue. Do the same with wheel bearings.
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I wouldn't do that, could cause more problems. If you do put the axle in and no change, try swapping the other one out instead and see how it goes.

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The right and left axles are the same size? Maybe I'll do that. I already ordered my axle though...
Yeah they are the same.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:14 AM
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Yea the axles are the same. If you want an upgraded axle then id say its worth it but try swapping the axles but be careful not to tear **** up when you swap them. Never pull on them. Get behind the axle and pop the snap ring out and don't pry on the seal. Plus you'll notice if there shavings or something funny when you pull your driver axle.

I hear more of a clunk... Not a click.

About the mounts, I ruled them out because you notice different symptoms. More directed towards wheel hop. And just banging under the hood. Not to mention you shifter probably bounce with it. I have poly mounts and my shifter is still stiff even in 4th with me hold pressure against. But check em out, you never know
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:28 AM
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I wouldn't do that, could cause more problems. If you do put the axle in and no change, try swapping the other one out instead and see how it goes.



Yeah they are the same.
Walt what do you mean if no change try swapping the other one out? Get another axle? Lol
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
I wouldn't do that, could cause more problems. If you do put the axle in and no change, try swapping the other one out instead and see how it goes.



Yeah they are the same.
Just be careful and its not a problem. I'm just suggesting cheap alternatives than throw money at problems. If it is an axle, awesome, but what if not. He's got a new one but still, he needs to eliminate problems. I'm drunk and rambling but I can't drive cuz my cars broke down so why not lol
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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Yea the axles are the same. If you want an upgraded axle then id say its worth it but try swapping the axles but be careful not to tear **** up when you swap them. Never pull on them. Get behind the axle and pop the snap ring out and don't pry on the seal. Plus you'll notice if there shavings or something funny when you pull your driver axle.

I hear more of a clunk... Not a click.

About the mounts, I ruled them out because you notice different symptoms. More directed towards wheel hop. And just banging under the hood. Not to mention you shifter probably bounce with it. I have poly mounts and my shifter is still stiff even in 4th with me hold pressure against. But check em out, you never know
Yea I guess it's a clunk/pop /knock noise.. Doesn't really click
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:34 AM
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Just be careful and its not a problem. I'm just suggesting cheap alternatives than throw money at problems. If it is an axle, awesome, but what if not. He's got a new one but still, he needs to eliminate problems. I'm drunk and rambling but I can't drive cuz my cars broke down so why not lol
Well your cara driveable.. Lol but don't drive either way. Don't. Want a DUI.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:48 AM
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didnt take the time to read if u found the problem ..but for ***** and giggles i had something similar a few weeks ago..sh** my pants thinking it was my axle..drove it home at like 10 mph ..got home and turned out i lost a f***ing bolt that connects the lower strut to the knuckle(chamber bolt?) ..thought it was pretty funny and noted that i need to get an alignment more often and check my torque specs lol
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:54 AM
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You know ..... this almost sounds like a steering componet...... My car shakes what sounds like my IM-shaft sometimes when doing a 2nd gear pull ...... it shakes for a split second right before the tires start to spin. Car also seems like its started to get darty in some of the grooves in the roads and torque steer has started to become an issue ...... I cant complain thou .... I'm on my 5th set of tires in 50K miles lol..
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:59 AM
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[QUOTE=seeyaass;6756435]Well your cara driveable.. Lol but don't drive either way. Don't. Want a DUI.[/QUOTE

Haha no way, got a broken car and a dd. Can't afford parts so why pay for a dui lol. I'm going to figure this out tom
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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Let me know what you come up with!
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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So today it started to wobble real bad. And making a crunching notice as I'm drivin could be this axle or the trans. A crunching noise that went with the feeling of the wobble.. Getting a little worried
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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check your engine frame bolts, then check all engine and trans mounts, check the axles for play or movement, check everything again - every bolt you touched when installing the transmission - its possible you didn't tighten something or didn't install something back on engine/transmission..

for the car to shake like crazy, something isn't tight or torqued correctly.. having play in the axle will shake the car but not a hard shake, it would be a lite shake..

the last thing you may have to do is drop the transmission out and install it again..

if your still not sure call me i'll come over and take a look.. your only 40min from me..

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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This is the drivers side axle. This is play moving it up and down z not side to side.. I def think its the axle.

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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I just took it to my friend who does high end suspensions on exotic cars and he's stumped. He's about to put it on the rack to check. You think the tranny is having issues? It seems like its operating smooth.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by seeyaass
This is the drivers side axle. This is play moving it up and down z not side to side.. I def think its the axle.

Is it a lot of movement? It's suppose to have some slack. You look at the other side yet to compare?
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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check your engine frame bolts, then check all engine and trans mounts, check the axles for play or movement, check everything again - every bolt you touched when installing the transmission - its possible you didn't tighten something or didn't install something back on engine/transmission..

for the car to shake like crazy, something isn't tight or torqued correctly.. having play in the axle will shake the car but not a hard shake, it would be a lite shake..

the last thing you may have to do is drop the transmission out and install it again..

if your still not sure call me i'll come over and take a look.. your only 40min from me..

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Ya Rudy it's Gaspare with the red as with white wheels.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Is it a lot of movement? It's suppose to have some slack. You look at the other side yet to compare?
Can you see the vd? And a lot of movement up and down not side to side. The passenger side has no movement up and down which is how it's supposed to be. A very little movement side to side.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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I just took it to my friend who does high end suspensions on exotic cars and he's stumped. He's about to put it on the rack to check. You think the tranny is having issues? It seems like its operating smooth.
Well all mounts are tight everything is tight and I couldn't think of anything else other than the trans.

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Ok just had my friends shop look at it. It's a combination of things.

1. My clutch was resurfaced, not replaced and had hot spots that the clutch had a hard time biting against.
2. This caused wear on my pressure plate springs and bent arms.

This makes sense when I press the clutch to release that it instantly cures the wobble.

This sucks, anyone recommend any good clutches, and strong lightweight flywheel for roadcoursing?
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Inner CV joint? Rotate the axle 90 degrees and see if axle now moves side to side instead of up and down.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Ok just had my friends shop look at it. It's a combination of things.

1. My clutch was resurfaced, not replaced and had hot spots that the clutch had a hard time biting against.
2. This caused wear on my pressure plate springs and bent arms.

This makes sense when I press the clutch to release that it instantly cures the wobble.

This sucks, anyone recommend any good clutches, and strong lightweight flywheel for roadcoursing?
So yours is the clutch/flywheel? I have a clutchmasters stage 3 in there and been there for While.. About 25k.. But wouldn't this do it all the time? Even snagging disengaging ? Why on load? And not just normal cruising around? Ugh please don't be a clutch flywheel issue..
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