2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

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Old 05-01-2012, 09:32 AM
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lol. some good info here!
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all i remember were candles and wine. after that its all black...
So you had Zoomer?
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this is the reason alot of the best tuners have gotten out of the tuning game because they got tired of people showing up with huge issues thinking a tune would fix it or telling them the tune is what messed things up
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ZZP does work
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
this is the reason alot of the best tuners have gotten out of the tuning game because they got tired of people showing up with huge issues thinking a tune would fix it or telling them the tune is what messed things up
Yes, and when we have someone coming in with a full build and they ask how much it will cost to get it running right, I have to tell them that it could be $200 or it could be $2000. That never goes over very well, because people refuse to belive that there could be a bunch of issue with their car.
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Originally Posted by Matt M
Yes, and when we have someone coming in with a full build and they ask how much it will cost to get it running right, I have to tell them that it could be $200 or it could be $2000. That never goes over very well, because people refuse to belive that there could be a bunch of issue with their car.
yea .. thats always lovely lol

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Originally Posted by Matt M
Yes, and when we have someone coming in with a full build and they ask how much it will cost to get it running right, I have to tell them that it could be $200 or it could be $2000. That never goes over very well, because people refuse to belive that there could be a bunch of issue with their car.
I'm going to ship my car to you and have you fix everything It's just a 09 Cobalt SS. Just ship it back with a bill lol.
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
yep a lot of times theres MORE then what meets the eye. people just think its the tune thats all wrong..... a lot of times its just funky because of a problem lying underneath. better yet i love the "oh yeah my car just needs a clutch......" and the car comes in on a flatbed with no plugs in it, wiring everywhere, no turbo and all this non sense because mr ill diy because shop labors soooo much money could diy lol.

however theres also a lot of CRAP tuners out there and a lot of people that think because they pick up an hpt suite they are tuners and a crappy tune leads to a bunch of problems later down the road aswell so it can swing both ways. im sure you guys have seen quite a few junk tune files up there just like we have.
Well said. I'd learned from past experience is to stay with one shop/tuner that has proven/reputable for all your mods and put some trust in their work. If you think you need a second opinion then you haven't found the right shop/tuner. And remember it cost $ to have things done correctly. IMHO.....
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Originally Posted by breds2k
My local tuner, john aka gremlin85 will <3 this thread.
Truth!

Well said, Matt. A lot of peoples first instinct is to blame the tune. The tune was fine before, what changed? Oh, well I did A,B and C... well theres your problem. Somewhere along the line of changing A,B, or C, something went wrong causing it not to run right. Fix the problem, car is fine.

OR, tune a car and problems arise... well, it's the tune... no, not really, this is failing/failed and this needs changed to compensate for added boost/power. Car as xxx,xxx miles on it so things fail/break.

Peeps be quick to point fingers at anyone else but themselves or just don't understand that **** happens or that human error exists when upgrading parts.
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I cant believe the dealer installed lsj plugs.
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I cant believe the dealer installed lsj plugs.
I can lol
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I see your sig Matt, i knew that was an s262 on that teaser vid.
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Originally Posted by raver0789
I see your sig Matt, i knew that was an s262 on that teaser vid.
How did you know is was a 62? I didn't notice the sound being that distinct. We had a 59, two 62s, and a 66 sitting here. I figured that it would take a 62 to get to 700whp, so we went that route.
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I see your sig Matt, i knew that was an s262 on that teaser vid.
I thought that was funny myself. Someone knows their turbos!
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Awesome thread.
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Wait you're telling me If I have a blown head that a tune won't fix it? Blasphemy! /RANT
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I need an alignment. Can you fix that with a tune?
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My wife's been bitchy and she gained a bunch of weight. Can you retune?
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Total thread jack post, but I figure Id get the right response here. Im hoping to get my car tuned this summer (handed out 16 resumes in the past 2 weeks ^_^).

My questions are:

1. Is dyno tuning the best way to tune, and will yeild better results over a street tune or e-mail no contest?
2. What kinda of power on a dyno (very roughly..) would I grab from 23PSI tune on a %100 stock LNF.

My elevation is 1650FT if that could make a difference.

Sorry for the thread jack, but Im bugging out handing my car over to strangers =)
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Originally Posted by SSlobalt
My wife's been bitchy and she gained a bunch of weight. Can you retune?
BWUAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Total thread jack post, but I figure Id get the right response here. Im hoping to get my car tuned this summer (handed out 16 resumes in the past 2 weeks ^_^).

My questions are:

1. Is dyno tuning the best way to tune, and will yeild better results over a street tune or e-mail no contest?
2. What kinda of power on a dyno (very roughly..) would I grab from 23PSI tune on a %100 stock LNF.

My elevation is 1650FT if that could make a difference.

Sorry for the thread jack, but Im bugging out handing my car over to strangers =)
There is a lot of debate over that subject. There are some threads in the Tuning forum about it tho. You might want to read those. If they don't help, start another post bc that would be a MASSIVE thread jack.
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when did .net become commonsense.org

sry you tuners have to deal with that tho : (
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Wow this sounds like the story of my life. I get called at least once a week from a customer complaining that their tune is too rich, too lean, the timing is off, not enough boost, etc, and it MUST be the tune.

No, it's not the tune. Fix your **** and it will run right.
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I had customer come in and say "i used duct tape to hold the couplers onto the intercooler, but I think I need a [Stg1] re-tune because the boost doesn't spike/hold any more.." really now - I wonder why?

i later found there was hair-line crack on the left-side plastic end-tank that ran from the top of the end tank to the bottom.. and the customer later asks me "how much will it cost to re-tune without t-clamps" - really now? after i told him - he needed the t-clamps to perform a "street shake down"..
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So Matt, what do I do about this humid ass weather on my blow thru maf set up? I keep getting moisture built up on the maf, even after removing the intercooler, spraying maf cleaner in it, buying a new maf(throws maf high freq. code), blowing air through the intercooler to get the moisture out of it...my air filter isn't wet but I still get moisture on it. Even drained water out of the charge pipes. This humidity is ridiculous....is there a way to tune around it?

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Originally Posted by FasterIsBetter
So Matt, what do I do about this humid ass weather on my blow thru maf set up? I keep getting moisture built up on the maf, even after removing the intercooler, spraying maf cleaner in it, buying a new maf(throws maf high freq. code), blowing air through the intercooler to get the moisture out of it...my air filter isn't wet but I still get moisture on it. Even drained water out of the charge pipes. This humidity is ridiculous....is there a way to tune around it?
I have people ask me about that from time to time, but we have not had that issue on our cars. I honestly wouldn't know the best approach. I have seen my share of ICs with coolant and/or oil in the bottom of them, though. It causes a lot of MAF issues, but the solution is obvious in those cases.


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