Well if anyone around you has Hptuners you could buy Credits to unlock your car and use their hpt to tune your car, but this may kill some of the convinience of it being yours and having access to it whenever. This is why they don't last very long when they pop up in classifieds.

 

Mmm, no. No, I didn't miss the point. He's saying the trifecta tune must suck because his 21psi tune is faster than his friend's trifecta tune which is at 25psi.

To which I responded by asking why people do that. I'm in agreement with you, that you cannot measure the quality or state of a tune simply by a PSI number.

 

Just so people know, Trifecta has vastly improved their turnaround time.


Also, if you noticed knock, why didn't you just make Vince fix it? You paid for his services after all... On top of that, you can simply reflash the ECU back and then it's unlocked for whatever you wanted to do to it.

People seem to get only base tunes and complain, don't bring up issues when they come up, and don't specify what they want and get all emo when it doesn't do whatever they had in mind. You have to communicate with the tuner specifically what you want and what does/doesn't work for you. Vince is a nice guy. He won't get mad or lash out for trying to get things right for you.

 

everyones reading but missing the bits

* he bought the LNF with a trifecta tune ( it was already tuned )

* he already had HPtuners ( the guy *** with Cavy's )

* he enjoyed trifecta but wants to get a tune for the mods he now has but going to use his HPt
because trifecta is having a slow turnaround rate for us and noticing some knock @ WOT
(therefor the ecm lock, blah screw it new ECM)

 

So he bought it tuned already to a certain unknown specification, changed the mods on it without changing the tune, and then wondered why he had problems?

 

I think the point of his post is more that he was bragging that he got an ECM for free.

 

i give up after this.....

There is no problem the guy knows what the **** hes doing.. and now the car is slow again haha **** off

 

Way to be mature...

 

i dont wanna be mature i jus wanted the guy to be understood , everyone was responding with the regular noob bashing replies. surprised someone didnt say use the search key haha

 

Use the search key.

...for maturity.


By problems, I meant having knock and it in general not being what he wanted. Those are problems. I'm not saying he's a noob, but from what's been said, things don't make sense.

- He didn't have to buy a new PCM
- He didn't say anything to Vince or otherwise try get another revision

This has nothing to do with his HPT knowledge.

 

No thats not what I'm saying. I've drove his car and its completely different than mine. You can totally tell that my car is way more aggressive. As soon as the turbo is in full spool. He has a catted downpipe but he is fully bolted.. I have a downpipe, sri, intercooler and a tune.. So idk! Not saying the psi matters so you can get that out of the question right now

 

Seeing hes from good ol Sasky, I think thats why he said Trifecta is his only option. No one I know of in this province has HPT, or even the next provinces so the cable rental with Trifecta and the email tune is our best and really only option unless we buy HP Suite. Thats why I intend on going with Trifecta when my warranty is up.

 

Knock was logged on the tune before the mods also, so he's playing it safe. OR
you can become a trifecta tuna for San Antonio since Vince so prudent with you

 

I think what they mean is that he could send the logs and receive tunes through E-Mail similar to how Trifecta does it. He would have to buy the HPT software and equipment to make that happen though if he didn't know somebody with it. He'd have to pay a lot more to do it that way though if he didn't already know somebody with it that would let him use their cable and had his car already unlocked on it.

 

My area covers San Antonio already... I service Houston, East Texas, and South Texas. I fly myself out to remote customers when needed.

 

good to know there is a higher priority dealer available.

 

Ya going back I don't think he knew you could do HP similar to Trifecta, but its a lot easier/cheaper to do Trifecta remotely than it is HP if no one around here has an HP cable.

 

Yeah, those Red Cables, for instance, are cheap comparatively and seem to do a nice, quick job. I'm a bit jealous of people who have those actually. lol I have to have the old Black Box in order to be able to service the LSJ people. It's slower and bulkier than both the Tactrix and Red Cable, but it's the only one of the bunch that can talk to the LSJ's ECU. No sense in buying another cable if I already have one.

 

I have a tuner that lives right across the street from me and James is only 2 hours away... I still bought hpt and remote tune for convinience. The cheapest and easiest option isn't always the best option.

 

Yep its basically a 15 hour drive to the nearest tuning shop id trust with my car lol.


BTW, I thought I Was the only vic red 2010 TC in the province... glad to know there is two.

I will say it was heeter_33 if I ever get a call from the RCMP about "some guy in a red cavalier going at least 150" hahah

But yeah, I will be going trifecta. Switchable tune, possible valet mode, internet tuning, easy to change later with additional mods, etc. Its basically $1000 more to go the HPT route, for MAYBE a better tune (because Id have to luck out with a good tuner in the first place). One guy locally was going to charge me $700. I went with GMS1 for $1000 instead. :| ***** expensive up in this saskadizzle

 

This. Vince has done everything I've ever asked him to with my tune. Typically all I need to do is send him a datalog in between adjustments.

 

this is the key here ^^^^. i have trifecta and vince has done a wonderful job for me when i had my hhr ss and now the cobalt. with that being said, you get hptuners and have someone remote tune you, HOW MUCH DO YOU TRUST THEM??? vince is a company. shade tree joe gives you a tune and u go boom,shade tree joe says,whoops, my bad and you are screwed. now that does not mean that term2 is not good or james. it's like having sex without a condom with hptuners. you get someone you don't know to work on your car and could possibly never see or hear from them again when **** goes unexpected. also vince will do custom tunes if you have the proper bolt ons to support it and ask.

 

He is perma banned from the site