I thought we heard this story already?

 

x2. Seems like a new one every day.

 

Yo man. I remember when we raced, your car was shooting flames like crazy and your exhaust stayed on for a good 10-15 seconds. Just so you know...

 

He asked for 30 psi to begin with, sounds like he doesn't care too much for his car. Oil all over the engine should have been a red flag. His engine must have been crying in pain long before he took his car to BYT. Note to self; If there are puddles of oil on the engine, do not install tune. OP, sounds like no one is to blame but yourself, if you drive it like you stole it all the time, you're just asking for your engine to take a crap.

 

I thought he WASNT going to post again.... Theres a lie infront of all of us. lol
Its pretty hard to blow one of these motors even with a off tune. BYT does a lot of tuning so im pretty sure his base file was safe even if you ran it for another 5k miles thats what a base tune is for .... safety and just a place to start. The fact that it blew up on the second pull proves to me that it was from previous abuse and it was a time bomb waiting to go off. Hell when first learning to tune my car i drove around a week boosting over 25psi on stock fuel tables with the fuel trims in outer space. These motors can take some abuse...

 

real random but you beat a 2010 z06 corvette?

 

I feel like perspective is the key here. With BuyHIDs, I had a thought and with that thought I had acted and based on that action I formed an opinion. Now after a few moments I became bitter. Only seeing what was at face value (my perspective) my view was truth.

After some time and getting more information, I realized some stuff and talking with Mike, my opinion changed.

I no longer had a sour taste in my mouth with buyhids and would buy again if I had to. My situation is a different case because with buyHIDs, it was a series of events outside his control and parts aren't exactly being built by him so it's not his fault.

Anyway...

Briefly reading BYTs post and the OPs, I feel like the OPs going through the same thing I did and just needs to be educated. He probably did beat up on his car and because he tuned it, he thinks it broke the engine. But any tune even GMS1 would have probably broke it. Maybe even keeping it stock would have broke it who knows.

I personally think the OP needs to come about this in a different way. He's starting a war that no one has his back on.

Although I have no personal experience with BYT, I feel he's knowledge isn't fluke, I feel that the OPs having issues and needs to place blame and us (people) in general have difficulties accepting responsibility. BYT seems easy for him to blame.

 

Oil on the engine doesn't mean the motor is going to blow. There is a service bulletin for LNF motors to replace valve cover gaskets because they leak. I know this because my motor went in for the same thing, it was repaired and the motor was partially cleaned.

To the OP - the problem already started before the BYT tune, it just happened to choose that time and place to go. As stout as these motors are nothing is 100 percent bulletproof. Two or three 26psi pulls won't grenade your motor unless it was starting to go already, from other instances of abuse like boosting your motor at 2500rpms in 5th. Your motor was already on its way out.

 

Hell, I'm still in the process of trying to get tuned with him and I'm already more impressed with his customer service and knowledge then any other tuner I've dealt with.

OP, don't try to pin your blame on someone when you knew your car was done to begin with. Sounds like he was looking for a scapegoat...............

 

There wasn't oil around the valve cover, it was filled in the space where the coil packs are, right under his BOV. And it wasn't some residue, Im talking a PUDDLE of oil.


But I agree that I shouldn't have tuned the car just like my suspicion lead me to but I did. We now have waiver's with a car inspection section where I can note these things and we can both sign off on it. So I did learn from my mistake at least

 

I'll back BYT. I ordered a HPtune/Trifecta tune from him for the Dyno day back in Feb. Well the Trifecta tune was f*cked and it sounded like my car had terrible turbo flutter. Nick figured out it was the trifecta tune when he put his own HPtune on there. He still has my file and can get my Trifecta tune on there down the road when ever im ready.

My Hptune that he gave me is running a tad rich to me averaging -10% ltfts but the car has not had one hiccup from that. well... just the clutch lol. trying to get some money together to get a clutch and get it put in..

When his shop opens, I think I will pay him a visit and get the rest of the tune put on and hopefully have a new clutch in the car by then.

Nick I think I know why the tune is -10% ltft. You told me the guy that had the ECU before I bought it had a K&N intake just like me so the tune probably didnt need much tweaking. I bet he had his intake set the opposite way mine is set so the K&N logo sits upright. Just a guess. Im betting if I rotate the filter the fuel trims would get closer to 0.0%. Not sure if you ever saw my discovery post about the K&N intake in that 50 page + thread

 

The file on your ECU is not what came on it. That was wiped once I loaded the TF portion. Then wiped again when I loaded my base file. To get the Fuel Trim right we need to drive the car. Def lemme know when you wanna meet up finally :p

 

Oh gotcha. I was just working on a theory lol. I will. Im gonna check your site right now to find out when your shop opens. and plan a clutch install before then.

 

The actual shop opens in August, that info isn't posted since we don't have an actual date yet. It's whenever we get everything built and set up over there. We can still handle clutch jobs within a day no problem tho and have done QUITE a few already

 

OP deserved what he got if he would not listen to the tuner sitting right next to him trying to tune his car and blatantly doing the opposite of what the tuner was telling him to do.

 

Sooo op ur bitching that ur the reason ur motor went sorry byt's crystal ball was on the fritz and couldn't tell u had a partially cracked ringland you ask for a aggressive tune u have to live with it the fact u built a motor then didn't even have it retuned is retarted what if u had another issue like a bad injector or something u always retune even if the motor set up is the same it's still gonna mess with things so basically ur a ******* and stop trying to start drama about another good vendor

 

I would love to be byt stunned or terminator tuned but I don't have an HPTuner and Trifecta was cheaper and easier.

BYT do you have experience tuning for high altitude cars. I drive anywhere from 5500 to 7100 feet regularly

from what I understand is Vincent is a great tuner but lacks certain skills.

 

BYT has tuned my sedan at 3200+ft I dont drive below 2500

 

how old is this kid? geeze, must be nice to have no worries and blame everyone but yourself.....

 

Seems to be a trend in society these days.

On a side note... there is no guarantee on a "built race motor"... you are putting together hundreds of parts to make one precision engineered machine. If one little bullshit part is not done right its all over. Thats why I don't do that stuff, I have the skill just no damn patience for all the little things.

 

exactly ryan, and you all probably know that i have had a **** ton of issues with my SS/TC Sedan, just from the BOV and MAF relocate, and im guilty too i kinda blamed vince at first but then after talking with ryan more and other people it just seemed to be an issue with my car, and then the BCM whent out and my car was K.O'd lol but now its fixed and i plan on getting it back in order and soon get HPT'd by Drewbroo, not that i dont like vince(he is a great guy and he tunes my car in person, but i want to try something else out, i have my trifecta files still so if i want to go back to trifecta its not hard)

 

yes, only got him by a fender though 40 to about 115-120.

 

Was that when you were off or on E85? If it's without, I have a chance!

 

So your saying you beat a car that stock runs an 11.8 @ 122?

I didn't know a 70/30 of e85 made that much of a difference

 

It only runs a 11.8@122 if the driver can do it. A Z06 is a manual trans only car.