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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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we're not engineers so its a wideband. lol
theres a difference noob. thats what maven is trying to tell you.

if ur gonna do any modifying to your car, do it right the first time. if u want a wideband, get an AEM UEGO or any other reliable brand that sells WIDEBAND A/F gauges.

quit the cheap **** and save your money if you cant afford it right now. you will be much happier in the long run.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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im getting some evil racing gauges for the saab...on my cobalt i have a glow shift boost gauge...its not too hard to wire them up...i did all the wiring for my boost guage as well as my a/f and turbo timer

they arent to hard to wire....one fo the wires is a constant 12v and then theres 2 that are 12v switched and then you have a ground...so 4 wires total

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mnatvyc1223
theres a difference noob. thats what maven is trying to tell you.

if ur gonna do any modifying to your car, do it right the first time. if u want a wideband, get an AEM UEGO or any other reliable brand that sells WIDEBAND A/F gauges.

quit the cheap **** and save your money if you cant afford it right now. you will be much happier in the long run.
according to Maven the UEGO isnt a "true wideband", as it doesn't go for around $1000... sooo...maybe the typical tuner wideband uses the same technology as the stock sensor on the ss/tc?
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
according to Maven the UEGO isnt a "true wideband", as it doesn't go for around $1000... sooo...maybe the typical tuner wideband uses the same technology as the stock sensor on the ss/tc?
Thats correct. The difference is in the control box, thats why even though most aftermarket "widebands" use the same exact sensor(Bosch LSU4) they arent all created equal, its in the control boxes hands as to what quality of data you get to a very large extent.

Dont tap into the stock sensor, if you really need a WB, spend the $300 or so and buy an AEM.

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Get an Interceptor gauge and you won't need to tap into anything
Right, the Aeroforce Interceptor gauges just plug into the computer and you can program a couple dozen functions.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
according to Maven the UEGO isnt a "true wideband", as it doesn't go for around $1000... sooo...maybe the typical tuner wideband uses the same technology as the stock sensor on the ss/tc?
yes same sensor, but i believe the stock ECU only reads rich or lean, whereas the wideband meter gives you a more precise reading. i could be wrong tho.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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i have a a/f gauge and just wondering... does anyone know which wire to tap into and where its at?
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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i have a a/f gauge and just wondering... does anyone know which wire to tap into and where its at?
narrowband?
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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honestly im not sure what narrow band means but it just has 3 wires a power, ground and then the third wire obviously gets tapped into something? i just dont know what.

and i need to figure out some kind of adapter to adapt my oil sending unit for my aftermarket oil pressure gauge... Any ideas?
The stupid dealership wouldnt even touch it because it wasnt a direct replacement.

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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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That gauge won't work at all, you have to an interceptor/dashdaq to read the oem wideband.
If you're going to put the sending unit in the oil galley plug its a 12x1.75 thread.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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is there any kind of adapter?
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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I have my gauges tapped into the wiper fuse for power. Works b/c when the car is "ON" they light up and when i turn off the car they light up till I open the door. But, if I tap into the stock boost gauge power I imagine the dimmer switch on the dash will control how dim and bright they are? That would be cool.


And as far as A/F goes, Mnatvyc1223 I think its hilarioius that you say **** like "theres a difference noob. thats what maven is trying to tell you." and then next post you say "the wideband meter gives you a more precise reading. i could be wrong tho. " Not trying to bash you but dont follow up a NOOB by "I could be wrong" SS/SC has a narrowband and if you buy a narrowband gauge you can tap into an ECU wire. I hear they are pretty useless though. I Have one for my SS/TC that is technically sold but still in the car, tried hooking it up to the sensor wire that goes to the ECU and I just got a CEL. No reading. For an SS/TC, I would recommend interceptors as they give you more information for cheaper than a straight wideband, But if your looking for the most absolute precise wideband reading to the "T" I would just get an AEM Wideband. Most people dont need to worry about this precision however.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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I have always found the easiest way to wire anything in is to get an add-a-fuse or add-a-circuit. You can pick them up from Autozone, and I'm sure other retail chain auto parts stores have them. Then you just plug the add-a-fuse into the fuse box on a switched circuit and run your wire to it and you have a switched power source. No need for splicing or cutting.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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i am gonna invest in a dash daq and see if i can get a custom mount.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gestapo007
I have my gauges tapped into the wiper fuse for power. Works b/c when the car is "ON" they light up and when i turn off the car they light up till I open the door. But, if I tap into the stock boost gauge power I imagine the dimmer switch on the dash will control how dim and bright they are? That would be cool.


And as far as A/F goes, Mnatvyc1223 I think its hilarioius that you say **** like "theres a difference noob. thats what maven is trying to tell you." and then next post you say "the wideband meter gives you a more precise reading. i could be wrong tho. " Not trying to bash you but dont follow up a NOOB by "I could be wrong" SS/SC has a narrowband and if you buy a narrowband gauge you can tap into an ECU wire. I hear they are pretty useless though. I Have one for my SS/TC that is technically sold but still in the car, tried hooking it up to the sensor wire that goes to the ECU and I just got a CEL. No reading. For an SS/TC, I would recommend interceptors as they give you more information for cheaper than a straight wideband, But if your looking for the most absolute precise wideband reading to the "T" I would just get an AEM Wideband. Most people dont need to worry about this precision however.
hmmm but i was still right none the less. whats the point of running a narrowband gauge in your car? that in itself is pretty ****** retarded.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerek112090
is there any kind of adapter?
http://www.autometer.com/cat_accesso...il.aspx?vid=62 assuming the sending unit is a 1/8" npt.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gestapo007
I have my gauges tapped into the wiper fuse for power. Works b/c when the car is "ON" they light up and when i turn off the car they light up till I open the door. But, if I tap into the stock boost gauge power I imagine the dimmer switch on the dash will control how dim and bright they are? That would be cool.


And as far as A/F goes, Mnatvyc1223 I think its hilarioius that you say **** like "theres a difference noob. thats what maven is trying to tell you." and then next post you say "the wideband meter gives you a more precise reading. i could be wrong tho. " Not trying to bash you but dont follow up a NOOB by "I could be wrong" SS/SC has a narrowband and if you buy a narrowband gauge you can tap into an ECU wire. I hear they are pretty useless though. I Have one for my SS/TC that is technically sold but still in the car, tried hooking it up to the sensor wire that goes to the ECU and I just got a CEL. No reading. For an SS/TC, I would recommend interceptors as they give you more information for cheaper than a straight wideband, But if your looking for the most absolute precise wideband reading to the "T" I would just get an AEM Wideband. Most people dont need to worry about this precision however.
ya the dimmer controls em when u tap into that, i did, but i got defi which have leds, so if u have ur dimmer on less than all the way up they blink bright and dim, i want mine stock cluster all the way bright so i dont care, but if anyone gets led gauges and wants to dim their stock cluster at any time, dont wire it into the dimmer switch.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Easier way is just to go with the msd dashhawk the computer already reads this information so just use the dashhawk and plug it into the obd port.
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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I want to get some prosport tinted gauges! what is everyone else doing? and i wouldnt know how to hook them up haha
prosport gauges are the sex. i have a tinted blue series boost gauge in my car install was very very easy
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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i run a aem tru boost, aem oil pressure, and 3 interceptors(i had them before the other 2)..

i pull the a/f with my interceptor and its pretty dead on with the uego as far as the readings go. only difference i see is one has a scrolling light on it. for the record though maven is correct about true widebands....they cost $$$$$$

the pro sports arent hard to hook up at all
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