Introducing Trifecta ECP- BIG NEWS
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Gotta love vince and his constant work on the lnf ecm, but relying on him to tune your car is nonsense, why doesn't he release his software to the masses? Newbies can use his current services while the diy'ers can tune the car themselves using his software.
This will actually help with the time it takes to get back to you too since most of the support requests we get are trim updates for intakes and stuff. That plus he's got someone else working with him now answering emails and stuff so he can focus on tuning and R&D. I' already said it once but I'll say it again- if anyone has been waiting for him to get back to them on a data log, please send the log to me and I'll make sure it gets priority. You can send your logs to customersupport@badnewsracing.net
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We've been working on this for well over a year and we've spent lots of time testing and ensuring it's correct, but we've finally nailed it down and it's almost ready for production, and we're really proud of what we've come up with.
I'd like to introduce Trifecta ECP, or Enhanced Charge Prediction.
As everybody knows, one of the biggest challenges in modding LNFs, is tuning them for various intakes and especially blow off valves (BOVs). These mods can result in sporadic setting of P0101 codes (or other fuel related codes) and disabling of boost (or limits to 3psi) largely due to the sensitivity of the airflow sensors on these vehicles.
We've come up with some completely new tweaks that work with the vehicle sensors to allow for more wider variety of operating conditions when they report the data to the ECM. These new tweaks solve several problems that have plagued the community for a long time, including different intakes throwing codes and requiring re-tunes based on how the air filter is rotated (think the K&N SRI), not being able to run an atmospheric blow-off valve without relocating the MAF, and even then having trouble with the car not running right and hitting limp mode all the time.
So far the test results are very promising - we went out and broke every single intake rule there is for the LNF without ANY DTCs, CELs or boost limp mode. You'll be able to run a BOV with no problems, be able to run any intake you want without needing a re-tune for it. You could literally run a piece of pipe and a sock monkey as your intake and it would run fine. (We don't recommend doing that)
And here's the best part- If you already have a Trifecta tune AND own a Trifecta cable, this update will be 100% FREE. (your local dealer may charge you at their own discretion. If you do not own a cable and need to rent one, you can do so at the normal minor re-tune cost)
Now as I said earlier, this is NOT ready for production yet. We're in the beta test stage. So we need you- people with persistent P0101 codes, people running atmospheric BOVs, and people having limp mode issues related to intakes or other charge issues- to test this out. If you own a Trifecta tune and a Trifecta cable and fit the criteria above, please reply to this thread and we'll contact you. You do not need to own a Trifecta cable if you live in south florida and are willing to drive to me to get this installed.
I'd like to introduce Trifecta ECP, or Enhanced Charge Prediction.
As everybody knows, one of the biggest challenges in modding LNFs, is tuning them for various intakes and especially blow off valves (BOVs). These mods can result in sporadic setting of P0101 codes (or other fuel related codes) and disabling of boost (or limits to 3psi) largely due to the sensitivity of the airflow sensors on these vehicles.
We've come up with some completely new tweaks that work with the vehicle sensors to allow for more wider variety of operating conditions when they report the data to the ECM. These new tweaks solve several problems that have plagued the community for a long time, including different intakes throwing codes and requiring re-tunes based on how the air filter is rotated (think the K&N SRI), not being able to run an atmospheric blow-off valve without relocating the MAF, and even then having trouble with the car not running right and hitting limp mode all the time.
So far the test results are very promising - we went out and broke every single intake rule there is for the LNF without ANY DTCs, CELs or boost limp mode. You'll be able to run a BOV with no problems, be able to run any intake you want without needing a re-tune for it. You could literally run a piece of pipe and a sock monkey as your intake and it would run fine. (We don't recommend doing that)
And here's the best part- If you already have a Trifecta tune AND own a Trifecta cable, this update will be 100% FREE. (your local dealer may charge you at their own discretion. If you do not own a cable and need to rent one, you can do so at the normal minor re-tune cost)
Now as I said earlier, this is NOT ready for production yet. We're in the beta test stage. So we need you- people with persistent P0101 codes, people running atmospheric BOVs, and people having limp mode issues related to intakes or other charge issues- to test this out. If you own a Trifecta tune and a Trifecta cable and fit the criteria above, please reply to this thread and we'll contact you. You do not need to own a Trifecta cable if you live in south florida and are willing to drive to me to get this installed.
-Alex
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You are referring to the one that tended to come up with respect to using E85 or some big turbos, right?
All cables work on the LNF. Some of them don't work with the LSJ though.
I believe Vince already overcame that issue. While troubleshooting my car he found a table that explained that relationship and can now manipulate the knock sensor sensitivity to a point. He made the tweak on my tune and I haven't had trouble since.
You are referring to the one that tended to come up with respect to using E85 or some big turbos, right?
All cables work on the LNF. Some of them don't work with the LSJ though.
You are referring to the one that tended to come up with respect to using E85 or some big turbos, right?
All cables work on the LNF. Some of them don't work with the LSJ though.
The tactrix and Red cable will work on LNF's (But no LSJ's)
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Well i don't know if i am jumping the gun on this, but i am so excited i have to post it.
I saw this thread today and emailed Vince asking to test it out. For about a year now i have had P0101 and other codes pop. Ever since i switched the filter out (my old one got chewed up) on my dejon intake (shitty intake to begin with). I have been a poor bastard and have not had the funds to fix my problem (more so the drive and funds) so i just drove it with this code. The car would go in and out of limp mode and not hold boost well at all (it would come in waves)
So i loaded up the tune Vince sent me. Holy smokes. My car has not pulled like that since i made 332 WHP 393 WTQ on the dyno a few years ago. I know its only been one day, but i have zero codes, boost is holding strong at 23 PSI and my car is finally fun to drive again.
Ill report back within a couple days of daily driving my car. All i can say is this really makes me want to drive my car again.
I saw this thread today and emailed Vince asking to test it out. For about a year now i have had P0101 and other codes pop. Ever since i switched the filter out (my old one got chewed up) on my dejon intake (shitty intake to begin with). I have been a poor bastard and have not had the funds to fix my problem (more so the drive and funds) so i just drove it with this code. The car would go in and out of limp mode and not hold boost well at all (it would come in waves)
So i loaded up the tune Vince sent me. Holy smokes. My car has not pulled like that since i made 332 WHP 393 WTQ on the dyno a few years ago. I know its only been one day, but i have zero codes, boost is holding strong at 23 PSI and my car is finally fun to drive again.
Ill report back within a couple days of daily driving my car. All i can say is this really makes me want to drive my car again.
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Local people who have riding in my car can agree that it was problematic. Im really stunned that this tuned fixed it to be honest. I was ready to purchase a new MAF sensor and put my stock intake back on (hoping that would fix the problem)
ditto.
no offense - but get a clue;
Vince does this as a business, and HIS time & effort are worth something;
to spend resources on this then essentially give it away would be retarded.
I know what you're saying, but look at it from Vince's side - he's now got another mouth to feed... and where's that "bread" going to come from ~ it certainly won't come from giving away information....
If anything, I hope this will lay to rest the Trifecta-bashing...
Vince does this as a business, and HIS time & effort are worth something;
to spend resources on this then essentially give it away would be retarded.
I know what you're saying, but look at it from Vince's side - he's now got another mouth to feed... and where's that "bread" going to come from ~ it certainly won't come from giving away information....
If anything, I hope this will lay to rest the Trifecta-bashing...
Well i don't know if i am jumping the gun on this, but i am so excited i have to post it.
I saw this thread today and emailed Vince asking to test it out. For about a year now i have had P0101 and other codes pop. Ever since i switched the filter out (my old one got chewed up) on my dejon intake (shitty intake to begin with). I have been a poor bastard and have not had the funds to fix my problem (more so the drive and funds) so i just drove it with this code. The car would go in and out of limp mode and not hold boost well at all (it would come in waves)
So i loaded up the tune Vince sent me. Holy smokes. My car has not pulled like that since i made 332 WHP 393 WTQ on the dyno a few years ago. I know its only been one day, but i have zero codes, boost is holding strong at 23 PSI and my car is finally fun to drive again.
Ill report back within a couple days of daily driving my car. All i can say is this really makes me want to drive my car again.
I saw this thread today and emailed Vince asking to test it out. For about a year now i have had P0101 and other codes pop. Ever since i switched the filter out (my old one got chewed up) on my dejon intake (shitty intake to begin with). I have been a poor bastard and have not had the funds to fix my problem (more so the drive and funds) so i just drove it with this code. The car would go in and out of limp mode and not hold boost well at all (it would come in waves)
So i loaded up the tune Vince sent me. Holy smokes. My car has not pulled like that since i made 332 WHP 393 WTQ on the dyno a few years ago. I know its only been one day, but i have zero codes, boost is holding strong at 23 PSI and my car is finally fun to drive again.
Ill report back within a couple days of daily driving my car. All i can say is this really makes me want to drive my car again.
Where's Jordan - and what are you doing posting under his profile?
Jordan, you have yet to come across as the peace-maker type...
...and for the record, my intent was not to bash persay, moreover I was hoping for the slandering to cease.