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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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im on the verge of buying the kit right now. its 340 from modernperformance. then i will have to pay 300 for a new tune. plus some labor so im looking close to 700-750 just for meth. i want to get the most out of the stock turbo. but just dont know if i should go through with it.
300 for a new tune?
you mean 50 for an update tune?

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its free for updates. like u add charge piping .... but for meth i guess its a whole new tune he has to write up
nah just tell him you need an update cause you're getting meth.
not 300.
i guarantee it.

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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i guess i was confused before. i didnt realize it was 300 for the hpt/trifecta tune from byt. i have always had trifecta tune on my car and in order for me to get the hpt/tf tune ill have to pay to unlock the car for hpt. i spoke to byt and he said that vince might not give me a agressive tune like i want. so i might have to get the hpt/trifecta because byt will give me what i want. i guess its 300 for the hpt/tf tune or 100 for the tf meth update. i want the most out of this meth setup so ill pay for it if i can get more out of hpt/tf than just tf...
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RossGo
Do you need a maf relocate if you run meth?
No, I think that is a bad idea. BYT said there isnt enough room in there to put the nozzle somewhere that it dont get the maf wet.

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i guess i was confused before. i didnt realize it was 300 for the hpt/trifecta tune from byt. i have always had trifecta tune on my car and in order for me to get the hpt/tf tune ill have to pay to unlock the car for hpt. i spoke to byt and he said that vince might not give me a agressive tune like i want. so i might have to get the hpt/trifecta because byt will give me what i want. i guess its 300 for the hpt/tf tune or 100 for the tf meth update. i want the most out of this meth setup so ill pay for it if i can get more out of hpt/tf than just tf...
You will be making the right decision.

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
No, I think that is a bad idea. BYT said there isnt enough room in there to put the nozzle somewhere that it dont get the maf wet.



You will be making the right decision.
why do you say so?
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pookie025
why do you say so?
BYT is the best.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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nice i cant wait then... thanks for your imput
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Yea, you have it right now Pookie. It's $100 for me to flash an updated Meth tune from Vince (which I just emailed him about BTW for you) and then more if you wanted a custom tune from me using HP over your TF tune.

MAF relocate from ZZP just won't work with meth unfortunately! The MAF was getting wet and you could see it was shorting out by the Freq. reading jumping irratically and pegging full at times. Once we put the MAF in the stock location and left the Meth spraying the car reacted like it should. A shame since the relocate pipe really did work well and the car felt stronger with it there too!

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BYT is the best.
Thanks man!

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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Yea, you have it right now Pookie. It's $100 for me to flash an updated Meth tune from Vince (which I just emailed him about BTW for you) and then more if you wanted a custom tune from me using HP over your TF tune.

MAF relocate from ZZP just won't work with meth unfortunately! The MAF was getting wet and you could see it was shorting out by the Freq. reading jumping irratically and pegging full at times. Once we put the MAF in the stock location and left the Meth spraying the car reacted like it should. A shame since the relocate pipe really did work well and the car felt stronger with it there too!



Thanks man!
could get dejons maf relocate it, i know its not the most ideal place for it because its in the hot pipe instead of before the tb but just an idea.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Here are some pictres of my meth set up (if it helps)... you can see where we tapped for the nozzle and where the pump and safe inject is located. This is the snow performance kit btw - so your results may vary

And the meth (waiting on a solenoid):






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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by interviewatruins
could get dejons maf relocate it, i know its not the most ideal place for it because its in the hot pipe instead of before the tb but just an idea.

Hot pipe is a terrible place for a MAF. Temps can reach 180* or more sometimes and the airflow is turbulent close to the turbo.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Hot pipe is a terrible place for a MAF. Temps can reach 180* or more sometimes and the airflow is turbulent close to the turbo.
yep i know, thats why i said its not the best :p
but if he needed to relocate...thats the only option if hes using meth.
either that or recirculate.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by interviewatruins
yep i know, thats why i said its not the best :p
but if he needed to relocate...thats the only option if hes using meth.
either that or recirculate.
Recirculate or get rid of the BOV IMHO.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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I wonder what the meth effects would be on the MAF relocate if it was sprayed at the outlet of the IC, with enough time to vaporize before the MAF? Opinions?
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Still going to be water in the air shorting the sensor out. The meth should not cross the MAF IMO.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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When you tried it with the ZZP relocated MAF you were spraying near the MAF close to the TB, right?
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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There really isnt a whole lot you can do with the MAF relocated. Its so close to the TB as is We put the nozzle RIGHT next to the coupler, so it was like half and half over the MAF, really nothing else we could do there. 50% of the time it was fine, after a couple pulls it was wet enough to effect the reading and run like crap.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Yeah, I can see that if it got soaked with the spray. If I had the spare change I'd try it spraying at the IC outlet for kicks. Charge air might be hot enough to keep it vaporized over the MAF. It'd be ok if it didn't condense on it.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
I wonder what the meth effects would be on the MAF relocate if it was sprayed at the outlet of the IC, with enough time to vaporize before the MAF? Opinions?
The water vapor and methanol in the air is going to hit the sensor and freak it out. Even if it is fully evaporated the molecules of methanol and water will still hit the MAF and cause the frequency to be artificially high because the sensor believes that the density of the air has changed.
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