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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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LS1 in a cobalt?

Just wanted to see if anyone has herd about puting a LS1 or an LS3 in to a cobalt. Im thinking about pulling the engine out of my car and mocking up a LS3 block in there. i Know it wont be easy as i have already put a supercharged smal block chevy in to a 68 mustang. Doing that took a long time and i had to remake alot of stuff, trans tunnel, firewall...etc. i just think it would be bad a$$ to see what this car would do with 500+ hp and rear wheel drive.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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From: on here
http://victory-red-ss.ca/aff/15/1

There you go
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/victory_red_ss-goes-rwd-48074/
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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While your at it make it AWD.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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Step 1. Sell your FWD Ecobox
Step 2. Buy RWD LS1
Step 3. Drive it
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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The victory red ss is cool but that for the most part is just for drag racing. not realy looking to buld another 2x3 full frame four link car.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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The victory red ss is cool but that for the most part is just for drag racing. not realy looking to buld another 2x3 full frame four link car.
Then cut your losses and admit defeat.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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this is related to the LNF section how?
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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Then cut your losses and admit defeat.
yep what he said.....theres going to be a lot of fab work involved.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Then cut your losses and admit defeat.
Pretty much. There isn't a way you're going to be able to put a motor meant for RWD cars in the cobalt without having to redo the floor boards and other structure. The Cobalt's body is not designed to accomodate RWD or AWD setups.

If you must insist on a V8, you will probably need to look at V8's designed for use in FWD applications such as the Cadillac Northstar series and the LS4... but even that is going to be a difficult route with a ton of fabrication.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fast ss
The victory red ss is cool but that for the most part is just for drag racing. not realy looking to buld another 2x3 full frame four link car.
That is not actually accurate. Yes this car will go to the track but I am not going to be chasing a points title. I will race it locally and at a few other select tracks but I won't be following the NHRA circuit. This car will also have as much of an interior as possible, considering the modifications, and I will be driving this on the street on sunny days. When the car goes to local shows, show & shines and the like, it will drive in not be trailered. To much time and $$$ have been spent on this car to just have it sit on a trailer and go to the track.

As far as doing this type of build, there is definitely alot of fabrication that needs to be done. However, if the plan from the get go is a V8 (mine wasn't) then certain things are simplified. The likelyhood is that the engine will not need to sit back as far as mine because my front suspension was already done before we went to the V8.

Also, if you are not planning on racing at a track then you can forgo the need for the rollcage but you are still likely going want to some modifications to have wider tires on the back. Your gas tank is gone because you need to put a rear end there so plan on a fuel cell or two.

It has been suggested that you just go to a rwd based car from the start which is good advice unless you have the fabrication skills to do most of the work. The cost of the labor far out weighs the cost of parts. Another option is look up irocmitch on here as the have done a 272 SBC into a Cobalt at a fraction of the cost/time than my build. Then again, they never used JBP and they planned for a V8 from the start.

If you do this, keep me informed as I would love to see it it.

Rod
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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^ my respect goes out to you.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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I guess I never understood why people are interested in doing these swaps in the first place. Unless its purely out of love for moddifying cars and stuff like that. I guess if you have the time and money and skill go for it. As for me, I LOVE my LNF
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Complete waste of time, have you looked at a dyno sheet of a LS1 vs a Stage 1 LNF, the power and tq are virtually the same. Difference being the immense cost and weight difference of doing the LS1.

You would be a complete moron to take an engine light years ahead in technology and replace it with a dinosaur that isn't capable of anything more. So go ahead spend 100,000 to run 10s, the rest of us can do it for less than half that.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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i want awd...
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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Thanks for the info Rod. i know the cost of doing this will be high, but i do all the work myself and have a good friend that has a machine shop so it will be more parts than anything. BTW your car looks sick!
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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hes been playing forza3 to much
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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hes been playing forza3 to much
I put a stock car motor in my 2010 Camaro SS, and then 5mins later swapped it out for an LS9!! Seriously, thats how quick I work
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
Complete waste of time, have you looked at a dyno sheet of a LS1 vs a Stage 1 LNF, the power and tq are virtually the same. Difference being the immense cost and weight difference of doing the LS1.

You would be a complete moron to take an engine light years ahead in technology and replace it with a dinosaur that isn't capable of anything more. So go ahead spend 100,000 to run 10s, the rest of us can do it for less than half that.
You sir are vary uneducated on LS1's. An LS1 in our cars would be insane. If you look at the peak numbers and the rpm range of those numbers on the dyno they are far from the same. A Stg1 balt will make the same amount of power as a stock LS1 yes, but a simple exhaust "which would be required", tune, and 150 wet shot of nitrous which is extremely reliable on LS1's would make a stg1 cobalt look like a little bitch on the street. and with the rear end done right i bet the car would be a high 10sec to low 11 and be able to do it all day. And for the "dinosaur that isn't capable of anything more" ive seen over 600hp LS1's driven daily with AC. You do have the uperhand though that it will be extremely costly. But forget all that it would be worth doing it just to be the first COBALT DRIFTER!!
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