2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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A must read for all LNF tuners

http://delphi.com/pdf/techpapers/2010-01-0619.pdf

Most of the engineering is beyond my comprehension. But from what I understood, it looks like a bump in compression along with E50 should get the job done.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Haven't seen that much thermodynamics since college. Part way thought it. Good read.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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I think we already found out E50 was the sweet spot on mine. I'll read this when I can.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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nice find.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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I see they pulled the turbo and ran the tests as a naturally aspirated motor...... interesting.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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so when do they start offering 50 blend is my question
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
so when do they start offering 50 blend is my question
This would be great!
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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What would be even sweeter is if they brought e85 around my place lol. The nearest one and the only one is 25 miles away.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
What would be even sweeter is if they brought e85 around my place lol. The nearest one and the only one is 25 miles away.
You want E envy? Do a search of E available in Houston
I really want to make the move to it but I think I need a clutch first before I go for more power.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
so when do they start offering 50 blend is my question
50 percent e85 and 50 percent 91. My friend Nick is already running this blend out here in AZ.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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good read thus far. dont really see any new/radical theories from whats known already.

the bit on fuel identity and a variable stratigy to go with is vary cool tho. way more then the general multipliers that go with fuel comp today.

Wayne Moore also has a great bit on fuel spray characterization
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
good read thus far. dont really see any new/radical theories from whats known already.

the bit on fuel identity and a variable stratigy to go with is vary cool tho. way more then the general multipliers that go with fuel comp today.

Wayne Moore also has a great bit on fuel spray characterization
I found it interesting how they took the practices that LNF tuners use everyday on the street and tested them in a "controlled" environment.

They varied the valve timing.

They tried different ethanol blends.

They changed compression.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Yes, 1:1 rocks. Glad to see some pretty damn good supporting evidence from Delphi/SAE

Thanks again IAB!!! Damn you...

Edit- Awesome, they even speak about the "charge cooling ability" that I was trying to explain to an LSJ owner...

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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Bill probably showed 'em some of our threads.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
What would be even sweeter is if they brought e85 around my place lol. The nearest one and the only one is 25 miles away.
I would drive 25 miles to get E-85. The closest station to me is 62 miles away on a toll road so expensive as heck for me to go and 125 miles out of the way.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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I would drive 25 miles to get E-85. The closest station to me is 62 miles away on a toll road so expensive as heck for me to go and 125 miles out of the way.
Im going to start selling 5 gallon containers of E85 and shipping them
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
Im going to start selling 5 gallon containers of E85 and shipping them
you would be makin some serious bank, i **** you not lol
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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An attempt was made to operate a fourth piston,
with a resultant CR of 13.66, but reliable ignition could not
be achieved.
gee I wonder why? lol.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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gee I wonder why? lol.
Meh I have seen CRs that high used on alcohol based fuels before. Not on a street application though.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ebristol
I found it interesting how they took the practices that LNF tuners use everyday on the street and tested them in a "controlled" environment.

They varied the valve timing.

They tried different ethanol blends.

They changed compression.
They varied the types of "valves" used in the head...and added a port fuel injector.

Look at the whole article.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
gee I wonder why? lol.
higher comp is harder to ignite, ethanol is also harder to ignite the two coupled together need an upgraded ignition system..
I am betting if the ignition was upgraded their #'s would be higher..
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Here's one, google to find the actual pdf, this is just a copy paste of the title page...


OPTIMAL ETHANOL BLEND-LEVEL
INVESTIGATION
Final Report
(for the period of December 15, 2006, through December 31, 2007)
Prepared for:
Ron Lamberty
American Coalition for Ethanol
5000 S. Broadband Lane, Suite 224
Sioux Falls, SD 57108
Prepared by:
Richard E. Shockey
Ted R. Aulich
Energy & Environmental Research Center
University of North Dakota
15 North 23rd Street, Stop 9018
Grand Forks, ND 58202-9018
Bruce Jones
Gary Mead
Paul Steevens
Minnesota Center for Automotive Research
Minnesota State University, Mankato
Trafton Science Center 205E
Mankato, MN 56001
2007-EERC-11-02 November 2007
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