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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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can't wait til you do me



my car that is
ahha
Is there really that much room in the back seat?
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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it's really not that bad haha
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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it's really not that bad haha
Well I'll just have to plug my unit in, you can get on my laptop and it'll be over in a 28 second flash. Before you know it you'll be having more fun with a stick than you've ever had in your life, and you'll be bragging about me to all of your friends, and then hooking me up with them so I can do them next.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Insert sexual innuendo here
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Well I'll just have to plug my unit in, you can get on my laptop and it'll be over in a 28 second flash. Before you know it you'll be having more fun with a stick than you've ever had in your life, and you'll be bragging about me to all of your friends, and then hooking me up with them so I can do them next.
Lies!

You'd never make it to 28 seconds.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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You BETTER last longer than 28 seconds.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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You BETTER last longer than 28 seconds.
It'll take about 28 seconds to get it in there, then it'll be in there forever. The feeling lasts a lifetime. The best part is you don't have to buy a whole bunch of toys to make what I'm going to do to you feel good.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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It'll take about 28 seconds to get it in there, then it'll be in there forever. The feeling lasts a lifetime. The best part is you don't have to buy a whole bunch of toys to make what I'm going to do to you feel good.
ahah yes that is amazing.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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I don't even know what you look like and I'm already talking dirty.........the internet is great!
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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it's ok i'm not fat
ahahahahahaahahah
but seriously can't wait to see how the car turns out whenever we can arrange something lol
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Steve.

just a few snip-its.

the ic out of the factory runs about 94% thermal eff. with a <.9 PSI PD across it (stock here)

if you bump the boost (or hold at 21per say) its only a small drop the 89% range...still much more efficient then more after market IC / IC systems.

goes to show people what proper planing can accomplish.

also, IDC's in this car will rise at an exponential rate, not linear like the LSJ...as your Delta-P drops with fuel pressure IDC's rise. thus non-linear.

and boy-oh-boy wait till you see all the tables that i can see in that PCM...you'll cry.

i sent Area some specs on all the fun thats ahead.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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also, IDC's in this car will rise at an exponential rate, not linear like the LSJ...as your Delta-P drops with fuel pressure IDC's rise. thus non-linear.
At that point, though, aren't you looking more at a fuel pump issue rather than IDC? If the pressure starts to drop, naturally the injectors will have to stay open longer to move the same amount of gas, but the pressure shouldn't drop at all unless the pump isn't able to keep up with demand, yes?
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Steve.

just a few snip-its.

the ic out of the factory runs about 94% thermal eff. with a <.9 PSI PD across it (stock here)

if you bump the boost (or hold at 21per say) its only a small drop the 89% range...still much more efficient then more after market IC / IC systems.

goes to show people what proper planing can accomplish.

also, IDC's in this car will rise at an exponential rate, not linear like the LSJ...as your Delta-P drops with fuel pressure IDC's rise. thus non-linear.

and boy-oh-boy wait till you see all the tables that i can see in that PCM...you'll cry.

i sent Area some specs on all the fun thats ahead.
Yeah I saw the intercooler efficiency, pretty amazing! And I think for anything 130mph and under this car is more than adequate. I'll see what they do at top of 4th tomorrow on the dyno when things aren't risking peoples lives or freedoms.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
At that point, though, aren't you looking more at a fuel pump issue rather than IDC? If the pressure starts to drop, naturally the injectors will have to stay open longer to move the same amount of gas, but the pressure shouldn't drop at all unless the pump isn't able to keep up with demand, yes?
its just a drop in fuel pressure.....err....drop in the difference between what the mechanical pump can put out and the needed pressure in the cylinder. with this cars pump being cam driven theres no easy way to increase it.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
its just a drop in fuel pressure.....err....drop in the difference between what the mechanical pump can put out and the needed pressure in the cylinder. with this cars pump being cam driven theres no easy way to increase it.
I'll keep my eyes on individual cylinder activity then, and compare the Wideband AFR on the dyno to the commanded Lamda.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
its just a drop in fuel pressure.....err....drop in the difference between what the mechanical pump can put out and the needed pressure in the cylinder. with this cars pump being cam driven theres no easy way to increase it.
Exactly...so the pump not being able to keep up with demand. I do know that we didn't notice any pressure drop on the tune, however once people start doing turbo work and pushing the power levels in to the mid to upper 300s to the tire, I imagine we'll start seeing the limits of the stock system.

I just wonder how hard, and what all is involved in upgrading the cam-driven pump. And is the tank pump up to the task as well, or will that need to be upgraded as well?

I'll leave that up to someone else.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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the in tanke pump is more then sufficient for big power....that pump is all about flow, not pressure.

the real FP could be mod'ed and / or swapped for a larger one fairly easily.

there are tons of HUGE flow mechanical FP's out there. make an adapter to fit the drive on the new pump from the old one, mount it, call it a day.

however the stock turbo wont be able to max that pump, nor will many other common turbos that people will use on this car.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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however the stock turbo wont be able to max that pump, nor will many other common turbos that people will use on this car.
This I also believe...I've heard of some crazy numbers GM was able to pull out of the stock turbo as well. Somewhere north of 300 hp / 400 tq. I have yet to see proof of this, though.

Honestly, though, now that HPT is out and functional, how long before we see swaps?

edit: Here it is -

http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/blog/...ting-into-2008

Originally Posted by GM Tuner Source
We made a couple changes in the engine calibration, removed the catalytic converter, and installd a free-flowing 3-inch exhaust. While we may not pass government emissions testing or meet the longevity requirements for the GM Powertrain warranty, we were able to get 330 horsepower and 425 ft-lbs of torque from the production engine.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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swaps could off already happened. its up to the owner.

the car needs a larger compressor wheel...its not a "true" K04 wheel....its a HP variant of the K03 comp wheel.

the stock turbo has been pushed to numbers like that, and beyond.

theres a few config's floating around that'll put the car to about 310-ish whp/ 380wtq.....but you dident hear that from me.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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I don't even know what you look like and I'm already talking dirty.........the internet is great!
By the way. She's EFFING HOT No joke. Myspace pics = ALMOST usable material
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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By the way. She's EFFING HOT No joke. Myspace pics = ALMOST usable material
I'm going to hell for agreeing with you...but, WTF.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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By the way. She's EFFING HOT No joke. Myspace pics = ALMOST usable material
Really, you mean I could be on to something here! How do I get pics of her. I think I remember her telling me I was cute a while back too.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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myspace pics...

post them!
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Really, you mean I could be on to something here! How do I get pics of her. I think I remember her telling me I was cute a while back too.


Seriously, I'm pretty sure she's posted some around the site.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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You guys are too much lol. I can't post pics myspace = blocked at work. I'm not in it for that tho, I want my car to go fast. Someone else already has dibs on thisss lol.



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