sorry but i gotta start somewhere.

 

i wasnt referring to u...u have the basic concept down

im talking about the people who for some god for saken reason have hptuners but come on here and ask for a tune

or say hey i did this and my car wont start

 

oh well i have done the second one once or twice but figured it out lol. im catching on though just the ve tables, spark, fuel and the meat still has me confused a bit, but im getting it.

 

for 16 dollars and 50 cents it can make more sense..

http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Managem.../dp/1932494421

 

Cool beans, I'll be sure to let you know if there is something I need help with.

 

hm m was looking at that a B&N in indiana and it was like 25 bux... verrry interesting

 

nice i will pick that up and give it a new read, it might become my new bathroom book lol

 

very good book to read..and its explained in simple terms.

 

well im simple minded so it should suit me lol

 

When are you coming to Portland? Could you PM me with some info if you could and prices?

 

Umm, if you think that all cars are the same, then I invite you to tune the array of cars that I have and tell me they all are similar. They don't look or operate the same. What works on one car doesnt always and rarely does work on another type. It would be more misleading if I said something along the lines of what you are saying and said "Seen one seen them all". They are all different.

I invite you to tune an LNF, and to tune a cavalier, then and LE5, then an LSJ. Anyone of those look the same or tune the same? Then try to set fuel tables on a Ford Mustang, then Modify airload tables for diesel, then change hi/low frequency MAF for VVT, then tune cam phasers for any car, tune an automatic transmission, then tune electronic throttle control, then control the butterflys on the intake point of a Ford Mustang.

I don't think it ANYTHING like one to the other.

Sure they all use air, some type of fuel, and most use timing (Diesels don't). After that you may as well start 95% over every time you pick up a new car type.

 

i just want you to teach me to where if you got overloaded with jobs i could help you in some way

 

I know A LOT of tuners copy either my tunes that they got from someone or they copy another reputable tuners tunes. They just copy what works and fudge it.

And you are right, tuning in HPTuners is not the only way to tune. Thank goodness I know SCT, Hondata, and KPro too. I'm thinking of buying a license to resell SCT, because they offer more mobility for an online tuner than HPTuners. That way I can write the tunes, send them to someone who may not have a laptop or know how to tune. Let them flash their car and then have fun. It's not perfect, but it works well for those with light mods that want bang for the buck.

Right now I am a bit overloaded, mainly because I still work a day job. But I know I will be run ragged after beginning of October. This is my last weekend of sanity for a month.

 

ya .if i knew anything about tuning i would help.....the only thing im good at is mechanical ****...lol

 

Maybe your PM box looks like mine too LOL!

If I buy HPTuners will you tune my car, I have HPTuners can you send me a file to get me started, My friend has HPTuners but he doesn't know what he's doing and I want him to tune my car, This shop near me tells me they've never tuned a Cobalt before got any advice for them.



Well right now I have someone answering the phones, taking emails, scheduling flights, setting up dyno time, calling car clubs, posting in forums, buying my web domains, building my website, etc. He is being more than compensated.

shoot me that LSJ tune you were having trouble with.

 

see you can teach me your ways and i can change my name to PSYKOSTEVO JR.

 

If I had a TON of business I would. But right now I NEED the money. I spent $4,000 on ECMs, $500 on dyno time, $1,300 in licenses, and then all the plane tickets and hotels JUST ON THE LNF. If I see people taking my tune and passing it around like a doobie you will bet there will be legal action. They can come and pay my F-ing bills that I put into the research on these tunes. Some of these members on the site have seen first hand how hard I work, and a couple were there during the LNF research, I know money came out of their pockets too.

In the tuning business it is perfectly fine to ask for help, you may sometimes get it. But don't do what the music fan did to the music industry. Keep tuning alive. There's a reason it's been left to the professionals in the past, it's not a game to be played with. It may look harmless and easy, until you hear of people going to the dealership because someone on here who calls themselves a tuner has forced a tune onto their ECM that didn't belong there and was not intended for their car and then they end up costing that person a lot of their own personal money. Same goes for people who think tuning should be free. Tell that to the guys who make a living off it. Do you really want to take your friends out of a job?

Sorry I chose to vent here, but those who want to get into tuning should consider that and think about what kind of future they are making for themselves if they are ruining it before they even get into the business. Keep it professional if you want to be a professional.

 

you wouldnt have to pay me...lol i just wanna learn..not take your business and help out...im one hell of a guy who would give a friend the shirt off my back if they needed it....im just saying i want to learn a little bit and understand it and know what im looking at and in return for you showing me some things i would help you out...im not asking for a job from your business...no need to pay...loljust a learning experience(sp?)

 

My advice wasn't all meant to be aimed at you. But glad you read it. Right now I don't know if I have time. You are welcome to come to my next dyno session. When I pay $115 an hour I tend to be quick and think to myself. It's not cheap to talk when someone elses meter is running.

 

ya i get what your saying..im a fast learner and tend to pick up on things pretty quick...so ill come to a dyno session when i have off and just kinda watch and stay out of your way....**** it will give me something to do...i need to get out of my house...lol

 

If people pass around your tune Steve...

...that would be fucked up.

 

Steve, I don't know much about it, but when I was reading up on HPTuners, it seemed they had some kind of locking functionality to protect your tunes. Does that not work for you?

I'm a curious/experimental kind of guy - do you have objections to selling me a tune, and me purchasing HPTuners and flashing it myself, then retaining rights to it *for my own use only* (e.g. so I can change it if I change something on my car)? Not sure how you would handle that oddball situation. That way I can dabble with it a **** off my car at the same time.

If you prefer, you can PM me your response.

Thanks,

Mal.

 

yes slap him with it.

 

i have never copied someones tune. i have had mine copied by someone on the east cost. this i know for a fact because i got it back with a nice "hey, can you look at this for me?"

this is why i never send my tunes to anyone.

i do however have a couple of steves files. the lnf one i wanted to look at, and a 2.4 file.

people should use them as a base, not a copy and paste your done deal.

 

You can kick them in the nuts for me.

I'm perfectly fine with emailing you the tune and letting you flash it yourself. From there there is no problem with you changing it as you see fit down the road. Obviously if you pull the cat off you need to make some changes etc.

And I CAN lock the ECM, but I think that is a f-ed up way to do business. A lot of companies lock the tunes, and I don't roll that way. I think your ECM is your property so why should I put a password on it, that's just bad customer service policy. And when I have customers in half the United States it's really inconvenient for me to go unlock it for them.

I just prefer everyone keep it honest. If they want to make their own tunes, then more power to them. I don't need to be the only one out there tuning those things. I just hate when someone gets my tune from someone else and then asks me questions why it doesn't work as well as it did on their friends car, or they had someone else change it and now it's not the same.

Well you and I share tunes from time to time for professional reasons, and to share research to make things better for the Cobalt community in general. When an issue comes up, it's good to point it out and get more than one solution to it.

Funny, it seems to be the east coast that throws my tunes around too. Probably the same tuner in some cases. I got a file back where even another tuner sent me his file for a look. Oddly he had the SAME EXACT 60# fuel tables as I created, right down to the .00 place holder. Gee, that's odd!