Synapse Synchronic BOV with dejon pipes
12-29-2008, 07:01 PM
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http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=5228
12-29-2008, 07:22 PM
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There is no, I repeat, no better BOV on the market then Synapse. Others may come close, but Synapse is the original, and they have perfected their design.
A side comment.....
If you buy a BOV based on looks, or the sound it makes, you are the BIGGEST MORON on the face of this planet.
A BOV should be purchased based on how well it does it's job, and that is removing boost from the intercooler piping as quickly as possible as to prevent damage to the turbo from compressor surge.
A side comment.....
If you buy a BOV based on looks, or the sound it makes, you are the BIGGEST MORON on the face of this planet.
A BOV should be purchased based on how well it does it's job, and that is removing boost from the intercooler piping as quickly as possible as to prevent damage to the turbo from compressor surge.
it's a great design don't get me wrong.... but the TiAl 50mm is bad ass, as is the Hahn one (I currently run the Hahn). no surge, opens at any boot level, andit's adjustable.
12-29-2008, 07:41 PM
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Tial is great product but if you dont't let off the gas fully, the vacuum required to open thev BOV will not be achieved causing compressor surge.
As far as the Hahn. It seems like a good product but I can't for the life of me figure out why you need adjustability?
As far as the Hahn. It seems like a good product but I can't for the life of me figure out why you need adjustability?
12-29-2008, 07:59 PM
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as for adjustability... one BOV fits all, no need to swap out springs. You can adjust it for your own setup (like myself) No matter what turbo, motor etc, you an make it work with a simple twist.... can't beat that.
f the hks one, synapses is close tothe same cost and seems to be a better BOV
12-29-2008, 08:39 PM
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Don't forget to add the option for the Anti-Stall Valve kit as well.
Technically you don't have to
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12-29-2008, 08:52 PM
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NLS is computer controlled and this as no effect on it.
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12-29-2008, 09:09 PM
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TTR is awesome. You have won my business. I'll be ordering this soon
You guys work harder than a fat chick trying to get laid at a frat party
You guys work harder than a fat chick trying to get laid at a frat party
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12-29-2008, 10:25 PM
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Sweet! I'll order as soon as I get my car back and have the $$ on hand
12-30-2008, 03:43 PM
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You know I totally forgot to mention to all the people that want/are running a VTA BOV have to relocate their MAF sensor AFTER the BOV and have it tuned properly. Or you can use a recirc BOV like the Synchronic and recirculate it back to where it normal dumps.
If you want to VTA without relocating your MAF then use the Synchronic BOV with the anti-stall kit. You can't just use any BOV without having to relocate the MAF.
Otherwise, you are really messing up the fuel trims and are probably running too rich
If you want to VTA without relocating your MAF then use the Synchronic BOV with the anti-stall kit. You can't just use any BOV without having to relocate the MAF.
Otherwise, you are really messing up the fuel trims and are probably running too rich
12-30-2008, 04:00 PM
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You know I totally forgot to mention to all the people that want/are running a VTA BOV have to relocate their MAF sensor AFTER the BOV and have it tuned properly. Or you can use a recirc BOV like the Synchronic and recirculate it back to where it normal dumps.
If you want to VTA without relocating your MAF then use the Synchronic BOV with the anti-stall kit. You can't just use any BOV without having to relocate the MAF.
Otherwise, you are really messing up the fuel trims and are probably running too rich
If you want to VTA without relocating your MAF then use the Synchronic BOV with the anti-stall kit. You can't just use any BOV without having to relocate the MAF.
Otherwise, you are really messing up the fuel trims and are probably running too rich
12-30-2008, 04:19 PM
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Think of it this way:
(Stock setup)
1. Air enters thru the intake and MAF sensor reads how much fuel it needs.
2. Goes thru compressor inlet and out the hot side of the charge piping
3. Thru hot side of charge piping and into the intercooler
4. Thru intercooler and out to the cold side of charge piping and into the intake manifold
Notice no air being released!
Now (with VTA BOV)
1. Air enters thru the intake and MAF sensor reads how much fuel it needs.
2. Goes thru compressor inlet and out the hot side of the charge piping
3. Thru hot side of charge piping and some air vents thru BOV then enters the intercooler
4. Thru intercooler and out to the cold side of charge piping and into the intake manifold
That air lost is not being taken into account because the MAF was before the BOV. Now if the MAF is after the BOV then you wouldn't have to take into account that air that was released.
Hope this helps.
12-30-2008, 04:57 PM
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You may not notice it in drivability but it's not going to be good in the long run.
Think of it this way:
(Stock setup)
1. Air enters thru the intake and MAF sensor reads how much fuel it needs.
2. Goes thru compressor inlet and out the hot side of the charge piping
3. Thru hot side of charge piping and into the intercooler
4. Thru intercooler and out to the cold side of charge piping and into the intake manifold
Notice no air being released!
Now (with VTA BOV)
1. Air enters thru the intake and MAF sensor reads how much fuel it needs.
2. Goes thru compressor inlet and out the hot side of the charge piping
3. Thru hot side of charge piping and some air vents thru BOV then enters the intercooler
4. Thru intercooler and out to the cold side of charge piping and into the intake manifold
That air lost is not being taken into account because the MAF was before the BOV. Now if the MAF is after the BOV then you wouldn't have to take into account that air that was released.
Hope this helps.
Think of it this way:
(Stock setup)
1. Air enters thru the intake and MAF sensor reads how much fuel it needs.
2. Goes thru compressor inlet and out the hot side of the charge piping
3. Thru hot side of charge piping and into the intercooler
4. Thru intercooler and out to the cold side of charge piping and into the intake manifold
Notice no air being released!
Now (with VTA BOV)
1. Air enters thru the intake and MAF sensor reads how much fuel it needs.
2. Goes thru compressor inlet and out the hot side of the charge piping
3. Thru hot side of charge piping and some air vents thru BOV then enters the intercooler
4. Thru intercooler and out to the cold side of charge piping and into the intake manifold
That air lost is not being taken into account because the MAF was before the BOV. Now if the MAF is after the BOV then you wouldn't have to take into account that air that was released.
Hope this helps.
VTA BOV FTW - recirc. FTL
12-30-2008, 04:59 PM
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Dejon has been in the DSM world for quite awhile... their products seem top notch... and I know someone who will be getting their intake and charge piping here shortly!
Don't downgrade someone just because they don't have their name plastered on everything!
Don't downgrade someone just because they don't have their name plastered on everything!
12-30-2008, 05:06 PM
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the lost air is being taken into account via the wideband. the computer is very quick at adjusting fuel for whatever is commanded. I have no concerns with this setup nor do I see any long term concerns. this is not your everyday maf car. with a maf,map,ita/map, and wideband the car is very good at hitting commanded a/f. you see this while tuning as well. very little change has been needed with my maf tables because the car is hitting commanded a/f within 2-3% or closer to redline. the car also hits this range with a bov within less than a .5sec.
VTA BOV FTW - recirc. FTL
VTA BOV FTW - recirc. FTL
