Did you log it and send him the log to check ?

 

yea i have and he said everything was fine.

 

yeah from what ive been told vince tunes around 12.1, i stay at 12.8ish tough because my car just likes it better

 

I want ALL of you HPTuners to remember who wrote a Trifecta layer file so you HPTuner people could have access to unlocked tables that HPT didn't or wouldn't do, you unthankful bastards. (You HPTuners should actually thank BYT also since he is the one that got with Vince on the idea)

I never understood why Vince tried to help you HPTuners out as much as you bash him, seriously.

Whether you HPTuners want to admit it or not, on the scale of things he tunes more vehicles a day then most of you do in a week. He probably does more ina month then most of you do in a years time. He OWNS a tuning company for crying out loud.

Do you not find a HUGE coincedence that people pleaded with the HPT staff to get with Vince or Vince to get with HPT to unlock the tables he had unlocked already, and boom 1-2 week later it was unlocked?

Let me guess you guys actually think they unlocked all that stuff in that short amount of time.

 

Oh how LOVE CSS and the infinit wisdom and people on here. I am def not listening to someone who got their account banned. But gmtech. Yes u probably do know more than Vince. If what you say about yourself is true then i believe you. You also seem like you might be a top level tech or possibly an engineer?

 

Both actually. I was headed towards a career as an Electrical Engineer at United Airlines but chose a dealership job when my then girlfriend and I realized we would be married and have kids. The airline industry route would have meant TONS of travel, I didn't want to do that to my kids (that I didn't even have at the time). I closed up the shop I was running and took a dealership job so I knew I would have a steady income and be home by 5pm everyday.
30 years after that decision, my girlfriend and I are still happily married, and raised two amazing kids. One has a degree in Justice Studies and the other is in the middle of getting his degree in Mechanical Engineering. I think we made the right choice.

Thanks for the comment by the way. I know when I make a post like that people are gonna come out of the woodwork to attack me, oh well, I JUST CALL THEM LIKE I SEE THEM. No BS from me about anything or anyone. Sorry if someone doesn't like it or agree, we all have our own opinions. And yes, every word I've said is true. I could dig up some pics of me working the Pits at the Indy 500, or the Trans Am cars I've worked on, or any of the other things I've said but I don't really care if I'm believed on a forum or not. Oh I forgot a couple. I've also restored many '30's classic cars, and just finished working on a vintage race car that is going to be the centerpiece at an auction at Laguna Seca Monterey Historic's this weekend. It could go for $1m if we're lucky.

 

My father is a fuel system engineer with Delphi. He does all sorts of cool stuff like this. He said Vinces tuning is pretty darn good and more on the safe side with our engines.

What i ment by "ass hats" was the begenniners who pick up HPT and learn themselves. Prsonally that is just a head ache i dont care to deal with. Ill leave it someone who has more expierence than ME. I wasnt questioning or slashing the experience of others on the fourms such as yourself, BYT, Term... etc.

 

No problem, I knew what you meant, and I agree. I've also seen tunes from several of the popular professional tuners on this site and others. Let me tell you, some of the things I've seen these so called "Pro Tuners" do is horrific. A couple of them do a pretty good job on other motors and ECM's, but don't know crap about the E69, and SHOULD NOT be taking money for tuning them. Sometimes it's the guy's like Iambroke (Tom) that have a good understanding of the basics of engine tuning, and have tons of time and miles playing around with just their own car, that know a helluva lot about how to tune that particular engine. Tom was the pioneer of running Ethanol in LNF's, long, long before Vince tried it. I guarantee he knows more about running an E mix than Vince. You just never know what someone might or might not know, that's why I always keep an open mind until I learn for sure.

 

Wow..... Considering the ban was because of idiot people assuming i was promting myself when the mods even told me i wasnt. They just banned me so vendors would quit whining..... I have alot of knowledge in tuning considering i did go to college for it and auto engineering. . And ive been tuning since 02/03ish...

 

An "ass hat" is someone that picks up something and learns it? Really? So you have never learned anything on your own? So wait around for someone else to do it for you? ******* lazy children. I bet you had your mods put on by a shop or your dad.

 

And btw im bot saying trifecta is bad but ibe datalogged many trifecta cars.and.seen stfts and ltfts 30% off. ... And kr everywhere and other issues.... My point is hptuners is a viewable loggin system so the person who is getting tuned can ask questions or the.tuner.can how that the person is safe. .. Trifecta is respectable .. But not the best.

 

i run them at 12.7 to 3500 and 12.6 after that

 

I recently installed the trifecta tune and when i go full throttle in 2nd and 3rd gear the boost goes up to 25 for a sec and then drops to 21 22psi. it happens about everytime i go open throttle. Is this normal? My air/fuel is around 12.1-12.3 thru out. Im new to the tuning world so go easy on me.

 

Here's a little known fact...
Vince made a big deal about his "E85 discovery" and that he figured out how to run full E85 on LNF's, which actually he didn't. Here's the funny part- he can't (or won't) even log fuel rail pressure! I wonder how much he's even looking at in these logs, probably only a couple PID's and obviously not the most important ones. THAT'S why he keeps those kinds of things a secret. Not to protect his ideas, but to keep guys from going "What the hell? How can you tune for E85 if you aren't even looking at fuel rail pressure?" Amazing.

 

A local lnf here tried going from a 93 trifecta tune to the 100% e85 and he kept popping fuel rail codes putting him in limp mode. They couldn't get it sorted out so he wound up going with e60. The thing that always made me uneasy about the trifecta was that I just had to take someones word on how the car is running. I'd like to see Vince come out with his own version of HPT's scanner so the customer can have the option to purchase his cable then plug in the car whenever they like and view and the parameters

 

Lol all this a/f talk I forget what mine is at, gotta check this soon as I get er running again.

 

had one of my cars run one of trifectas "full e85 tuned cars" basically the same mods but was a kappa platform. Trifecta car was quite a bit slower. i thought he claimed close to 400hp on these tunes? I have always hated the fact that you cant see anything going on with trifecta. Your blindly alowing your car to be tuned remotley.... I agree that he runs these cars way too rich. I learned to tune by reading and experimenting with my own car. These are completley different when it comes to tuning compared to anything else. If you dont know how to turn a wrench you should not be in the tuning business. Tuning takes a overall understanding of how the car works, what sensors do what, and tuning knowledge. There arnt very many people that tune and actually have turned some wrenches on these cars.

 

AMEN!
I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks!

If you guys are really interested in learning more about this subject, keep an eye on mine, and others threads and posts over on the HPT forum. Today or maybe tonight I'll post up a thread about AFR on LNF's. I'll explain the fact that most of you, even with Vince's tunes, are running at 14.7 or 1.0 Lambda at full throttle and don't even know it. I'll also show you, if you have HPT and are logging, how to see the power difference between 1.0 and .88 Lambda at full throttle. Amazingly very little.

LNF TUNERS: Learn, share and make hp HERE! - HP Tuners Bulletin Board

Thanks again to the guys that understand reason and logic. For the Lemmings and Sheep, just pass over this thread.

 

damn 14.7 at wot, boom! lol

 

Vince dosnt make Horsepower Claims !!!!!

 

Im on full E85 and the only time I popped a code was at Nelson Ledges when I let the fuel tank get to low . I keep it 3/4 full all the time now. No problems.

 

I am VERY interested, and will be reading.

 

Wow. Here we go again with the AFR discussion. This comes up every couple years it seems.

My dyno testing results show that our mixture selection makes the most power on the LNF. I use hard data to make tuning decisions. Plain and simple.

 

Reading the HPT thread seems people don't understand that "big time tuners" will not share complete knowledge with you. That is part of their lively hood and anyone who runs a business will tell you , you do NOT cut your own throat plain and simple.

Go check other platforms you say all this about free information on them but every platform I have seen that has gone this way lasts about 6 months then buttons back up. Why because when person X can just steal what person Y is doing and apply to Option A then product Z is now zero.

Also you then start to get people who rush into the tuning and read what someone who is a "reputable money maker" posts and tries to copy and tweak that which ends in engine failure and where do you think the blame is going to go. If you think someone will not point a finger and try to push of the blame on someone else even if they indirectly had no part then your just senile it is how the world works now.

I am all for cross sharing information I believe it is how a platform needs to evolve, but as someone who also runs a business I do understand that somethings are not public knowledge and have to be held back. I hope the mass does share more information you don't have to have big time tuners to do that the general public when knowledge is combine is actually in a far greater category than a single mind.