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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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I wonderf if the F40 trans is a direct swap for the F35. The F35 is rated 258ft# and the F40 is used in the G6 behind the V6 and is rated 295ft#. Hmmmmm!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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They stopped using the manual on the G6 after 2007.5 IIRC. The 2006 G6 GTP and the 2007 G6 GT were the only G6's to have an available 6-speed manual, IIRC.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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hey swazzees any word on that RPD?

or stage kit from ur dealer?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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In that case I would be worried because of what happen to Chrysler. They pissed off some suppliers like "Saginaw, Muncy" only it was a German company called Getrag and they can no longer get trannys for a lot of new Chrysler models ... I am sure it had to do with the " Licensing " issue and business wen't sour after Chrysler tried to buy back the license and get them made somewhere else for cheaper but Getrag shut the door and won't sell them the licenses. I have no idea what kind of relationship GM has with SAAB but I am sure that the Corporate Henchman at SAAB grand fathered in some things that will allow them to keep the technologies they already own.
Licensing of products is a very profitable business for patent or design holders. I doubt they would pull that back. I know for a fact the Getrag transmissions that are used by GM are made by Muncy under license with Getrag, a German company. But after further review I just now learned the F35 trans IS made in Sweden by Swedes.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
They stopped using the manual on the G6 after 2007.5 IIRC. The 2006 G6 GTP and the 2007 G6 GT were the only G6's to have an available 6-speed manual, IIRC.
But would it work is the question.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by reign1
hey swazzees any word on that RPD?

or stage kit from ur dealer?
nope.....
cant bug them for a bit....i ask weekly they know why im in thier department monday mornings...lol
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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what about the RPD?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
They stopped using the manual on the G6 after 2007.5 IIRC. The 2006 G6 GTP and the 2007 G6 GT were the only G6's to have an available 6-speed manual, IIRC.
I stand corrected. I have to sharpen my researching skills.

But I did find something that I think is very interesting. It shows how desperate GM was getting a few years ago. The following was found on Wikipedia.


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The launch of the G6 was a major publicity stunt: 276 of the cars were given away to audience members of The Oprah Winfrey Show on the talk show's fall 2004 season premiere. This promotion, alongside a reported US$110 million publicity campaign, attempted to garner national attention for the brand-new G6.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by reign1
what about the RPD?
im in canda.....probably a differnet unit becaus eof metric so it really isn't going to change if i can get it or not

Me thinks so anywyas
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
I stand corrected. I have to sharpen my researching skills.

But I did find something that I think is very interesting. It shows how desperate GM was getting a few years ago. The following was found on Wikipedia.


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The launch of the G6 was a major publicity stunt: 276 of the cars were given away to audience members of The Oprah Winfrey Show on the talk show's fall 2004 season premiere. This promotion, alongside a reported US$110 million publicity campaign, attempted to garner national attention for the brand-new G6.
I remember that day when Oprah gave out the G6s. GM was pissed off big time because they couldn't make G6s fast enough to meet market demand, and here Oprah was giving them away.

Someone at work has a 06 GTP with the 6-speed manual. The gearbox is pretty noisy. I can hear the ratcheting sound outside while the car is moving. I haven't heard her complaining about the shifter though.

I'm not sure why GM stopped using the 6-speed manual on the G6 or whether they will ever bring it back for another car. The F35 has been in-service for over 20 years, first debuting on the 1984/1985 Saab 9000. I found more info on the F35/MU3 which I added to the appropriate Wikipedia page.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
I remember that day when Oprah gave out the G6s. GM was pissed off big time because they couldn't make G6s fast enough to meet market demand, and here Oprah was giving them away.

Someone at work has a 06 GTP with the 6-speed manual. The gearbox is pretty noisy. I can hear the ratcheting sound outside while the car is moving. I haven't heard her complaining about the shifter though.

I'm not sure why GM stopped using the 6-speed manual on the G6 or whether they will ever bring it back for another car. The F35 has been in-service for over 20 years, first debuting on the 1984/1985 Saab 9000.
Correct again. They killed the F40. Can't find any reason. I'll keep looking.

YOU WATCH OPRAH???

My 88 Fiero uses a 5sp Getrag licensed trans. It is made by Muncy. In fact it's known as The Muncy Trans. It's the F282. It was only rated 165hp I think but stands up to 350 with the LS1. Not so the axles. I now have axles from The Drive shaft Shop. Guaranteed to 750hp. I won't tell you what they cost.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
Correct again. They killed the F40. Can't find any reason. I'll keep looking.

YOU WATCH OPRAH???

My 88 Fiero uses a 5sp Getrag licensed trans. It is made by Muncy. In fact it's known as The Muncy Trans. It's the F282. It was only rated 165hp I think but stands up to 350 with the LS1. Not so the axles. I now have axles from The Drive shaft Shop. Guaranteed to 750hp. I won't tell you what they cost.
I owned an 06 GTP with the F40. The clutch catastophically blew out at 23k miles (wouldn't hold more than 25% throttle) At 34,000, the transmission was grinding and making a lot of noise. I figured I'd trade it before the warranty was up. That car was in the dealership more than once a month for random things. Switching to the SS/TC was a MAJOR upgrade. A lot of others had rattle/grinding issues with the same tranny. I wasn't surprised to see GM drop it. After all, they only put it into one model year of the G6, and only a couple MY's of the saab (9-3?) IIRC. (I know VERY little about saab)

A lot of magazines also complained about the shifter in test drive articles.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Something weird, but a lot of my fellow MR2 owners are buying up surplus F40's. They're using them + Northstar V8's in various MR2 V8 swap projects. I'm not sure if its still the case, but someone was selling a large amount of them on ebay for... I think... $500-600ish.

I know the Fiero guys were buying the hell out of them too since thats where the MR2 swappers got the idea.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gimpster
Something weird, but a lot of my fellow MR2 owners are buying up surplus F40's. They're using them + Northstar V8's in various MR2 V8 swap projects. I'm not sure if its still the case, but someone was selling a large amount of them on ebay for... I think... $500-600ish.

I know the Fiero guys were buying the hell out of them too since thats where the MR2 swappers got the idea.
I think the transmissions they're talking about is the 282. There is a guy just north of Atlanta, GA that found a **** load (several hundred) 282 and was selling them for $500, They are surpluss transmissions that were made for export only to Europe for the European version of the Olds Sillouette van. They have a strange gear set with a 3.94 final but otherwise they're a great trans. The same trans that was used behing the Olds Quad 4 but like I said with that LOW final ratio. I have one in my Fiero behind the LS1 (or alongside if you want to look at it that way) and it seems to be working out OK. I don't spend much time in 1st gear but once in second it goes like a rocket. Starting in second would put excess strain on the trans and axles so I just shift quick.

I searched around a little and did find some F40 trans. but they are in a lot of 240ea and I suspect they are export models also. He wants $60,000 for the bunch. That translates to $250 each but who needs that many spares?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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The F40 was rated for something like 295 ft-lb and the F35 at 260 ft-lb according to GM. This is why I am skeptical about the LNF Turbo Upgrade's compatibility with the stock F35, unless GM Beefed up the F35 in the SS/TC.

I don't watch Oprah, but I remember it was on the news as a very big event. The audience was happy, GM was not!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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The trans in the SS/TC has a better clutch I believe.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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f40 in a sedan would have been a nice option
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
The trans in the SS/TC has a better clutch I believe.
Better clutch probably. But the manufacturers stated rated power handling capability is grossly under rated for many obvious reasons. The Getrag M282 in my Fiero is handling 350 hp and probably equal torque very well. The rated horsepower (I don't know the torque) is only 165 on that trans. Wish I could say that for the stock half shafts.

Originally Posted by umrdyldo
The trans in the SS/TC has a better clutch I believe.
Better clutch probably. But the manufacturers stated rated power handling capability is grossly under rated for many obvious reasons. The Getrag M282 in my Fiero is handling 350 hp and probably equal torque very well. The rated horsepower (I don't know the torque) is only 165 on that trans. Wish I could say that for the stock half shafts.

Sorry about the Oprah reference. I couldn't resist.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Ok - this thread was just hijacked by Fiero talk????
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Not a prob re: Oprah. If there's something related to cars on the news, I usually pay more attention! I fleshed out the F35 wiki page and made the F40 wiki page.

If you get a chance and have more info to add, please update the pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_F35

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_F40
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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No, when you change the DIC to metric the RPD follows suit.

Originally Posted by swazzees
im in canda.....probably a differnet unit becaus eof metric so it really isn't going to change if i can get it or not

Me thinks so anywyas
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Anyone else see that CAI is having problems with their upgraded intake design, AND that the GM intake is taking a long time to develop? I dont think that this is coincidence.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chandler
Anyone else see that CAI is having problems with their upgraded intake design, AND that the GM intake is taking a long time to develop? I dont think that this is coincidence.
I think it is. CAI had a problem with the nipple or whatever. GM already designed the nipple on the stock intake. They have no reason to change to a different nipple.

I just said nipple a lot.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gimpster
No, when you change the DIC to metric the RPD follows suit.
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cars been b uilt...awaiting delivery
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