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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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It seems they'd have to go through the CARB process again for MY09 LNF equipped vehicles.
Yes. They would have to go through the whole process for the Cobalt because our kit was never released but, supposedly, was modified after the original cert. The way I read the cert is, so long as nothing else changes on those cars equipped with the upgrade and they continue to pass emissions, they're good to go with no further recert.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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I dont see why this has made 37 pages..... OMG.

its coming. just wait

b patient
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by reign1
I dont see why this has made 37 pages..... OMG.

its coming. just wait

b patient
Because there are an ASS-TON of us anxiously waiting for any FIRM news on when the hell this thing is coming out. I personally have an '09 with the good warranty and I'm excited to be able to get the kind of numbers they're talking about and STILL have the great warranty. Bumper-to-Bumper coverage for 5 years AND the 290/340 combo is probably why there are so many of us posting here.

You guys that put the mods on that void the warranty are envied by us. Ultimately you have the potential for more power. However, the peace of mind of knowing that I can run the crap out of my car and if something BREAKS, it's covered...is WELL worth it to me.

I'd be willing to bet there are others in my situation that feel the same way.

Anxiously (not impatiently) waiting...
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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with the trifecta tune, is the power delivery and feel still linear like how it is stock? or does it whack you suddenly? just curious
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzz65

You guys that put the mods on that void the warranty are envied by us. Ultimately you have the potential for more power. However, the peace of mind of knowing that I can run the crap out of my car and if something BREAKS, it's covered...is WELL worth it to me.

I'd be willing to bet there are others in my situation that feel the same way.

Anxiously (not impatiently) waiting...
Damn right
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzz65
I personally have an '09 with the good warranty ...
Meaning??

I was told having an 08 is better because warrenty on the 09s do not include wheel bearings, fuel pumps, etc in the 5yr/100k
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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I wrote in asking about he intake w/ the kit, this is the response I recieved from GM Goodwrench today...

Thank you for visiting the Goodwrench website, Mr. Tyler.

We appreciate your e-mail regarding the turbo upgrade kit.

This kit will not have a manifold with it.

For further information about this upcoming kit, please contact your local GM Performance Parts Dealer (GMPP). Be aware, not all dealers are authorized performance parts dealer. To locate a GMPP dealer near you visit the website below.

www.gmperformanceparts.com

Another useful sight for information is:

www.gmtunersource.com

Thank you for your inquiry.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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From my 2009 Warranty Information booklet...

Drive Systems Coverage includes: All internally lubricated parts, final drive housings, axle shafts and bearings, constant velocity joints, propeller shafts, universal joints, wheel bearings


and it goes on and on.

Originally Posted by bri2203
Meaning??

I was told having an 08 is better because warrenty on the 09s do not include wheel bearings, fuel pumps, etc in the 5yr/100k
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bri2203
Meaning??

I was told having an 08 is better because warrenty on the 09s do not include wheel bearings, fuel pumps, etc in the 5yr/100k

Somehow everthing turns into a pissing match here..

I meant 'GOOD' as in the best I could get for the car when purchased it.

as opposed to 'basic' warranty.


I wanted to reiterate the following...

You guys that put the mods on that void the warranty are envied by us. Ultimately you have the potential for more power. However, the peace of mind of knowing that I can run the crap out of my car and if something BREAKS, it's covered...is WELL worth it to me.

I'd be willing to bet there are others in my situation that feel the same way.

Anxiously (not impatiently) waiting...
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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Why can't they just give us something...... It seems like they are just teasing us
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Why can't they just give us something...... It seems like they are just teasing us
I agree. Take your top off already GM!!!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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What is the EPA/CARB going to do? Fine a bankrupt company that is being subsidized by the same government? Tell them to take CAFE and CARB and shove it up their $^@!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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August?

Waiting till August?

I'm getting married in October, have a tiny bit of money hidden for this upgrade - it is rapidly disappearing.

I don't know if the funds can wait until August, never mind my urge for additional power.

$250 Trifecta....hmmm.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Also, what will happen to the kit if GM doesn't meet the 60 day restructure deadline that the government set.

Can you say bye bye stage kit.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Also, what will happen to the kit if GM doesn't meet the 60 day restructure deadline that the government set.

Can you say bye bye stage kit.
Then they will probably get another 60 days...
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Then they will probably get another 60 days...
Yeah we will see.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Also, what will happen to the kit if GM doesn't meet the 60 day restructure deadline that the government set.

Can you say bye bye stage kit.
No, not even close.

If GM doesnt meet the deadline they will be forced into a government mandated pre packaged bankruptcy.

Who does this effect? GMs debt holders, the unions, and any underperforming dealers.

Day to day operations will continue unabated, that means cars will still be being built and profitable portions of GM's operation will still be going about business as usual.

Everyone needs to stop blowing this out of proportion, if GM is forced into bankruptcy the company will not just "dissapear". It will be the basis for a clean slate restructuring which is good for the company in the sense they can clear their debt load. Its bad in the sense that it screws over anyone who they owe money too.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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No i'm not saying they will go away. I'm just hoping that the Performance parts don't go bye bye.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ogc
No, not even close.

If GM doesnt meet the deadline they will be forced into a government mandated pre packaged bankruptcy.

Who does this effect? GMs debt holders, the unions, and any underperforming dealers.

Day to day operations will continue unabated, that means cars will still be being built and profitable portions of GM's operation will still be going about business as usual.

Everyone needs to stop blowing this out of proportion, if GM is forced into bankruptcy the company will not just "dissapear". It will be the basis for a clean slate restructuring which is good for the company in the sense they can clear their debt load. Its bad in the sense that it screws over anyone who they owe money too.
FINALLY! Someone that understands what's going on. Another thing everybody has to be reminded of is "how many miles have you flown on BANKRUPT airlines"? GM will be OK. A little leaner but, I'll bet, MEANER. Once they get rid of that dinosaur Hummer and unprofitable Pontiac. Chevrolet is the core of GM. It will NEVER go away. Remember. Baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet. Long live GM!

GM's vendors will get help from the government. They SHOULD. They employe more people than GM if you add them all up.

Originally Posted by tlake84
I wrote in asking about he intake w/ the kit, this is the response I recieved from GM Goodwrench today...
That reply stated no MANIFOLD. It' NOT a manifold that's coming with our kit. It will be a modification to the AIR INLET. Big difference. Technically he told you the truth. But he didn't offer any further info. I'm beginning to wonder myself why they are being so secretive.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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I agree, They released information quickly about the previous LNF kits. What do they have planned that is so crazy for the Cobalt? Is it much higher output or are they just behind on it.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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My guess is that they're getting CARB certification for all 09 models and the 08 SS/TC at the same time.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
I'm beginning to wonder myself why they are being so secretive.
It does seem quite odd that they are being THiS secretive over the kit.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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My opinion for it not being released yet isn't because it has more horsepower and emmissions is taking this long.

SAAB is about to be sold back to the Swedish and our transmissions being a SAAB part I highly doubt GM is going to allow the overhead of failing trannys for a 450 dollar upgrade. Some people have cracked the bellhousings on the tranny with stock cars so not only that, but the fact GM is in the ******* right now isn't helping. I understand it is GMPP but they have to listen to the big wigs at corporate just like every one else ..... The kit isn't comming soon ...
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tlake84
I wrote in asking about he intake w/ the kit, this is the response I recieved from GM Goodwrench today...
Originally Posted by Buddhaphish
My opinion for it not being released yet isn't because it has more horsepower and emmissions is taking this long.

SAAB is about to be sold back to the Swedish and our transmissions being a SAAB part I highly doubt GM is going to allow the overhead of failing trannys for a 450 dollar upgrade. Some people have cracked the bellhousings on the tranny with stock cars so not only that, but the fact GM is in the ******* right now isn't helping. I understand it is GMPP but they have to listen to the big wigs at corporate just like every one else ..... The kit isn't comming soon ...
I may be wrong on this but I'm sure I read somewhere that Muncy or Saginaw is building our transmissions under license from SAAB. Being owned by GM may just be a technicallity.

Originally Posted by tlake84
I wrote in asking about he intake w/ the kit, this is the response I recieved from GM Goodwrench today...
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My opinion for it not being released yet isn't because it has more horsepower and emmissions is taking this long.

SAAB is about to be sold back to the Swedish and our transmissions being a SAAB part I highly doubt GM is going to allow the overhead of failing trannys for a 450 dollar upgrade. Some people have cracked the bellhousings on the tranny with stock cars so not only that, but the fact GM is in the ******* right now isn't helping. I understand it is GMPP but they have to listen to the big wigs at corporate just like every one else ..... The kit isn't comming soon ...
I may be wrong on this but I'm sure I read somewhere that Muncy or Saginaw is building our transmissions under license from SAAB. Being owned by GM may just be a technicallity.

Also. I read that GM Performance Parts isn't putting these kits together. GM SERVICE PARTS Operations is. Another technicallity but could make a difference in availability in the future.

I was right! I AM wrong. It IS built in Sweden.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
I may be wrong on this but I'm sure I read somewhere that Muncy or Saginaw is building our transmissions under license from SAAB. Being owned by GM may just be a technicallity.





I may be wrong on this but I'm sure I read somewhere that Muncy or Saginaw is building our transmissions under license from SAAB. Being owned by GM may just be a technicallity.

Also. I read that GM Performance Parts isn't putting these kits together. GM SERVICE PARTS Operations is. Another technicallity but could make a difference in availability in the future.
In that case I would be worried because of what happen to Chrysler. They pissed off some suppliers like "Saginaw, Muncy" only it was a German company called Getrag and they can no longer get trannys for a lot of new Chrysler models ... I am sure it had to do with the " Licensing " issue and business wen't sour after Chrysler tried to buy back the license and get them made somewhere else for cheaper but Getrag shut the door and won't sell them the licenses. I have no idea what kind of relationship GM has with SAAB but I am sure that the Corporate Henchman at SAAB grand fathered in some things that will allow them to keep the technologies they already own.
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