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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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You damaging your car is a Insurance issue not your warranty.And there may be no e-snitch, compenys have investigators who job it is to find evidence. quick search on google could have turned up your thread .
A PI would be a pretty hardcore cost for a piece of aluminum and some plastic clips .
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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I had a post about my stock intercooler being broken... anyways my car was at the dealership getting alot of stuff warrentied and they said they weren't going to warrenty it due to the bottom piece missing anyways someone on here sent it to them or brought it to there attention i had posted it on here... all i posted is i backed up from a curb a verizon wireless which is a normal sized curb nothing the car doesnt usually clear. anyways the dealership called my dad and said they have proof of me posting stuff online and said it was more then just that so whos the asshat on here that sent it to the dealership and where you at in waco buddy lets meet up

Why did they call your dad lol?
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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because his mom wasn't home.....................duh
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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When did telling the truth become the wrong thing to do!?!? WTF is wrong with people.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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so let me get this right. You think this whole thing is unethical because he was being untruthful with the dealership? Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Dealers are probably one of the most unethical people alive
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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When did telling the truth become the wrong thing to do!?!? WTF is wrong with people.
That is what I am saying.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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If ? you caught that water catcher or any part of the IC on a curb, parking stop, hilly driveway or anything else and broke it that is your fault not GMs. They will be able to tell if it impacted something at the dealer and will deny your warranty claim on that basis. Road hazzards are not part of your warranty coverage. Several on here have hit raccoons and other animals and had to replace their ICs. Man up and buy a new one.

Not many men who own balts to "man up" just some boys who call their daddy at any chance they run into a problem with a dealership LOL DADDY DADDY LOL

This damn site always something isn't it ..
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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so let me get this right. You think this whole thing is unethical because he was being untruthful with the dealership? Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Dealers are probably one of the most unethical people alive
And its not unethical to smash your intercooler into a curb, then go to the dealer and say "i dunno what happened, the car just doesn't feel right. OH! would you look at that! the front radiator thingy is busted. Must be a factory defect"

You're woefully ignorant if you think dealers are here to cheat people.

I'm honestly getting sick of people screwing up their cars and blaming the dealer when they won't cover operator error under warranty.

All you e-thugs and your "snitching".

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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And its not unethical to smash your intercooler into a curb, then go to the dealer and say "i dunno what happened, the car just doesn't feel right. OH! would you look at that! the front radiator thingy is busted. Must be a factory defect"

You're woefully ignorant if you think dealers are here to cheat people.

I'm honestly getting sick of people screwing up their cars and blaming the dealer when they won't cover operator error under warranty.

All you e-thugs and your "snitching".
dealers are the anti-Christ .....Seriously .
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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seriously? You don't think dealers are here to cheat? you must be one of the guys that goes to the dealership and pays the sticker price haha
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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I don't pay sticker price, they're salesmen, that's their job! hahaha

That was an extremely poor example man.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/problems-service-maintenance-69/how-not-have-dealership-woes%85-93488/

Good read (shameless self-plug)

Mamba, careful with which direction you take this. Regardless of what you think of dealers, it is UNETHICAL (and illegal to boot) to defraud.

It's one of those, two wrongs don't make a right situations, assuming the dealership was actually doing something unethical in this situation (of which I see no proof).
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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I didnt know hitting a curb was under the bumber to bumper warranty

Quit trying to screw GM...theyre in enough financial trouble as it is...they dont need to be buying your dumb ass a new intercooler.

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Edubs
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=93488

Good read (shameless self-plug)

Mamba, careful with which direction you take this. Regardless of what you think of dealers, it is UNETHICAL (and illegal to boot) to defraud.

It's one of those, two wrongs don't make a right situations, assuming the dealership was actually doing something unethical in this situation (of which I see no proof).
never said it was ethical to defraud GM. you wanna talk about unethical? how about all the guys with aftermarket tunes that just erase it and then get warranty service with no problem? Or ZOMG trifecta has a stealth tune to defraud GM while still having an unapproved GM tune. It isn't black and white, ethical or unethical.

I personally love GM cars and when i put my aftermarket tune on my car and started modding it i knew what i was doing. Therefore if something breaks that my fault.

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Maybe someone that works at the dealer has a cobalt and frequents the forum?
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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The clip on driver side end of the intercooler water separator broke off of and there were no scratches or dents on the bottom of the separator. The water separator was hanging down but was still functional. I don't miss treat my car and never come close to curbs or wheel stops. I don't know if something may have flew up on the road or what. I didn't feel like fighting with the dealer so I just found one for $50 and saved the hassle and replaced it myself. I am not saying that defrauding the dealer is ok or the right thing do but forums like these should be a safe place to talk about cars and other things with out the worries of getting blamed for something. Dealers are not saints and some and I repeat SOME might be will to come to one of these sites and misconstrue posts or change them all together to their benefit. If the op did in fact bust his IC on a curb or something like then yes maybe he should have maned up and replaced it himself. My personal opinion is that this IC is a horrible design, and the way it is set up is just asking for it.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMamba08
never said it was ethical to defraud GM. you wanna talk about unethical? how about all the guys with aftermarket tunes that just erase it and then get warranty service with no problem? Or ZOMG trifecta has a stealth tune to defraud GM while still having an unapproved GM tune. It isn't black and white, ethical or unethical.
Why are you arguing topics that have nothing to do with this situation?

Regardless, aftermarket tunes are in the same boat with damaging parts and claiming manufacturer defect. I agree nothing is black and white, but there is no need to defend one unethical action and condone another...

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The clip on driver side end of the intercooler water separator broke off of and there were no scratches or dents on the bottom of the separator. The water separator was hanging down but was still functional. I don't miss treat my car and never come close to curbs or wheel stops. I don't know if something may have flew up on the road or what. I didn't feel like fighting with the dealer so I just found one for $50 and saved the hassle and replaced it myself. I am not saying that defrauding the dealer is ok or the right thing do but forums like these should be a safe place to talk about cars and other things with out the worries of getting blamed for something. Dealers are not saints and some and I repeat SOME might be will to come to one of these sites and misconstrue posts or change them all together to their benefit. If the op did in fact bust his IC on a curb or something like then yes maybe he should have maned up and replaced it himself. My personal opinion is that this IC is a horrible design, and the way it is set up is just asking for it.
Nothing on the internet qualifies as "a safe place" if you don't want someone, somewhere to read it. I agree that modifying something written online to gain leverage against someone in a situation like this is straight up wrong, but it's irrelevant at this point to the OP's situation unless there's information we don't know about.

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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Sounds like a lawsuite going to take place between you, the dealer, and the snitch behind it. That is first of all unethical it should be the violation of the Consumer Warranty Act 1975 Magnuson-Moss Act. http://www.jtexconsumerlaw.com/V11N3/JCCL_Magnuson.pdf Plus the dealer is not a fault for the damage you caused for going off-road, which happen to a buddy of mine for doing something retarded. Its in your Car Owners Waranty Manual. So basically its two wrongs, which don't make a right. But, the one at fault is the snitch for the dealer in Waco, TX.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Edubs
Albeit annoying, and none of anyone's business, let's get back to the main issue here.

OP, was warranty work denied because the intercooler was damaged by you and not a GM build quality issue? If so, you have no leg to stand on.

Regarding whomever the e-snitch is, I will guarantee it's a dealer employee. I would find another dealer and pull your posts off the internet that have to do w/ you trying to defraud GM...
well im going to have to say that a intercooler should not break with any slight hit or scrape, get a poll going just to see how many people have boken their intercooler. my opinion GM failed at making a durable intercooler, plastic should have never found its way on to the intercooler.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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well im going to have to say that a intercooler should not break with any slight hit or scrape, get a poll going just to see how many people have boken their intercooler. my opinion GM failed at making a durable intercooler, plastic should have never found its way on to the intercooler.
There you go. This is a logical response to part of the situation. The appropriate way to approach this is to gather a decent size group of the product owners (cobalt community) and poll for issues. If, in fact, it was found that there were numerous failures of this part because of its lack of durability, you may be able to bring it to GM asking for a revised solution and TSB. Unfortunately, that probably wouldn't work as GM isn't exactly swimming in cash right now and I doubt there are many failures aside from people misjudging the height of curbs. My recommendation to anyone unsatisfied with GM's design is to purchase an upgraded component. It WILL NOT void your warranty for anything other than the replaced component or anything you may f*ck up in the process of installation. Refer to my link from earlier in the thread if anyone needs help choosing the appropriate dealer or learning the appropriate way to deal with them...
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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if my intercooler gets destroyed do to curves or bottom out in city traffic. your gurantee I'm not going to replace the plastic intercooler for $400. Either Crazy Steve's, Hahn, Universal, or Synapse will be its predecessor. As long I don't hear "you need a tune for the intercooler", will automatically get bitch slap for no reason. I won't forget the time my buddy had a ghetto idea and used PVC pipe by shopping at Lowe's Hardware Store. It was ghetto, but it helped get his boost back up, except it was dealing with hot air, somehow he got around that. I need to post that pic, you guys will get a kick out of it.

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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OMFG ROFL !!!!!!!!!


Why not just use a garden hose and some duct tape LOL wow !
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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its good for blowing leafs, trust me we tried that before we put the whole thing together. we never had hacksaws for the couplers so we used kitchen knives. yes kitchen knives. that took forever to do. we spent $10-15 all together.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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How exactly can the dealership prove you posted anything on this forum? This is the internet and you can invent your own identity. Anyone can be anyone when it comes to the internet.
exactly, but u gotta see where the dealer is tryin to come from... not lose money from gm for no reason

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no they printed it out at the dealership or someone printed it and brought it to there attention that i hit something and i was trying to fraud them.. and that i was in the WTB/LTB section to get a intercooler (this was posted after they told me they wouldn't warrenty it ofcourse i would do that)...

but i read to my dad what i posted and what i said didnt match up to what they have aka u save the thread to your computer edit it and hit PRINT

anyways they tried to hook me up and i APPRECIATE IT on the labor and parts saying it would be around $5xx todo the intercooler and put the car back together but i told them dont bother ima get a used one do it myself fix my dmg on the car and sell it like i was going todo initially... i got 2 paid off cars so i don't need to deal with a payment or high insurance anymore
yes editing is always bullshit like that, especially if the person was jealous of ur ride and only got a 2.2 or somethin lol but just go to another dealer

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This still doesn't prove that it was legitimately you who posted anything. Go to a different dealer?
agreeed, just try again somewhere else altho they may have put it in a database of ur vin number for showing all work ever performed

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It was more than likely someone who works at the dealer and comes to the site. No one here would have known which dealer he took the car to so he must have just put 2+2 together. If that is the case, then its the OPs fault because he cracked it (during an accident), it wasn't faulty. Which means warranty doesn't cover it, period.
thats more how i was thinkin. someone from the dealer. And fyi, when my warranty was about up i went and powershifted my tranny everyday til it broke and took it in and gots a brand new one. did it a few times with many different parts interior/exterior/etc, never once got questioned and when they said there were signs of power shifting i told them "**** ya i did, now get my car done so i have a damn vehicle for work" and 3 days later had my car back with brand new tranny no questions asked and covered
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Sounds like a lawsuite going to take place between you, the dealer, and the snitch behind it. That is first of all unethical it should be the violation of the Consumer Warranty Act 1975 Magnuson-Moss Act. http://www.jtexconsumerlaw.com/V11N3/JCCL_Magnuson.pdf Plus the dealer is not a fault for the damage you caused for going off-road, which happen to a buddy of mine for doing something retarded. Its in your Car Owners Waranty Manual. So basically its two wrongs, which don't make a right. But, the one at fault is the snitch for the dealer in Waco, TX.
i'v read through about half of that wheres the information that pertains to my situation..

i'v tried to reach my contact up there recently to no avail my car still sits up there disassembled and i took my thread down so further editing could not take place so sad that its come to this... this is the first time iv ever brought my car in for warranty service as well i never said how can i defraud them i just stated i backed up over a curb which ya it was my fault in the end but what a ******* design i'v never had a car i couldn't park in a parking spot
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