ZZP LNF Cam Testing
11-12-2010, 10:14 PM
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Thought ZZP already Did the Cams for the LNF?
I thought ZZP already made Cams for the LNF. Look at Option 2 on the LNF Head....Are those the upgraded Cams for the LNF? Cobalt & Ion ---> ZZ Performance
11-12-2010, 11:01 PM
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Also, are these cams reground or are they new cuts from blanks?
11-13-2010, 12:20 AM
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Here's how good the track was-
YouTube - FWD Pedal-fest
Same car at Norwalk- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eip6fnK4y9A&NR=1
11-13-2010, 12:33 AM
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Ryan ran it today at Milan. (I was running my drag car.) Unfortunately, people kept oiling down the track, and we battled dumb issues.(broke a shifter roll pin, then broke a shift cable connector) Ryan only got one pass in. It was a little faster than my previous best, but nowhere near what this setup is capable of.
Here's how good the track was-
YouTube - FWD Pedal-fest
Same car at Norwalk- YouTube - 1TGT Runs 8.69 at 159.4
Here's how good the track was-
YouTube - FWD Pedal-fest
Same car at Norwalk- YouTube - 1TGT Runs 8.69 at 159.4
11-13-2010, 12:39 AM
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11-13-2010, 08:19 AM
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hey Matt could you tell us if this new cams were made out of a "blank" cam or were they re-grind from our stock? would there be a lower price for those of us who would send our stock cams?
also could you kind of explain how does the secondary fuel rail works? how do you tune it etc?
Thanks!
also could you kind of explain how does the secondary fuel rail works? how do you tune it etc?
Thanks!
11-13-2010, 10:52 AM
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We got to the track at about 3. We were ready to race by 3:30 or so. Ryan went to the staging lanes. There wasn't many cars in the lanes, so I just planned to wait until after his pass to bring the drag car up. Once we got up there, I realized they were only running one lane. Of course someone broke and they shut down for a bit. Then Ryan was a couple cars back and went to move the car forward and there was no shifter- just free movement. We quickly found that the roll pin on the trans had broke. We removed the shift lever and went back to the trailer, but we didn't have a roll pin or a suitable replacement. I ended up taking a rear window screw out of my car. The diameter was pretty small, which made for a lot of slop in the shifter. We put it in , but it didn't work because it was too long and hit part of the trans when shifting. So then we had to cut it shorter with a wire crimper. Then we found that the head of the bolt hit the other shift lever when shifting the other way, so we counter-sunk it with a drill. Then the nut wouldn't go on because the threads were messed up from cutting it. Now we had no choice but to remove the fuse box to get in there better. By the time we got it all together, it was about 5:00. I pulled the drag car in the lanes and Ryan pulled my LNF up behind me. We moved forward a few spots and then someone did a big wheelie and smashed his trans pan. He finished the pass, leaving trans fluid all the way down the track. They spent about 45 minutes cleaning it up. Then they ran about 3 more cars and someone went to the line with a coolant leak. He leaked coolant to about half track and then the line blew off and it dumped all of his coolant on the track. Next they spent another 20 minutes cleaning up the mess, but did an absolutely horrible job of this. I was the 3rd car up after this and you can see what happened above. Ryan ran right after me and spun bad off the line- 1.9 sixty foot. When he shifted to 3rd, the shift cable connector in front of the shifter broke. Luckily, we did have this part with us. Unfortunately, the lanes were closing soon. Ryan replaced the connector and got back in line. I turned the boost down from where we had it on the dyno, and backed first gear down to 80% to make sure he didn't spin again. Apparently the track dried up and quickly got better with all of the huge tired muscle cars that were running. Ryan put down a very smooth 1.68 sixty foot, despite shifting at about 50 feet out! However, having to shift like a grandma due too the massive amount of slop in the shifter, he only managed another 11.62. It was actually a couple thousandths quicker than my best ET and also had the same mph. Having put down a sixty foot .08 better than my 11.625 pass, we should have saw an 11.48 even with the same mph. Quick shifting and the 121 mph that we expected to see would have been good for an 11.45 or better. But then again, racing doesn't usually go that well.
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11-13-2010, 10:54 AM
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hey Matt could you tell us if this new cams were made out of a "blank" cam or were they re-grind from our stock? would there be a lower price for those of us who would send our stock cams?
also could you kind of explain how does the secondary fuel rail works? how do you tune it etc?
Thanks!
also could you kind of explain how does the secondary fuel rail works? how do you tune it etc?
Thanks!
11-13-2010, 11:01 AM
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Here's a run down of our race day-
We got to the track at about 3. We were ready to race by 3:30 or so. Ryan went to the staging lanes. There wasn't many cars in the lanes, so I just planned to wait until after his pass to bring the drag car up. Once we got up there, I realized they were only running one lane. Of course someone broke and they shut down for a bit. Then Ryan was a couple cars back and went to move the car forward and there was no shifter- just free movement. We quickly found that the roll pin on the trans had broke. We removed the shift lever and went back to the trailer, but we didn't have a roll pin or a suitable replacement. I ended up taking a rear window screw out of my car. The diameter was pretty small, which made for a lot of slop in the shifter. We put it in , but it didn't work because it was too long and hit part of the trans when shifting. So then we had to cut it shorter with a wire crimper. Then we found that the head of the bolt hit the other shift lever when shifting the other way, so we counter-sunk it with a drill. Then the nut wouldn't go on because the threads were messed up from cutting it. Now we had no choice but to remove the fuse box to get in there better. By the time we got it all together, it was about 5:00. I pulled the drag car in the lanes and Ryan pulled my LNF up behind me. We moved forward a few spots and then someone did a big wheelie and smashed his trans pan. He finished the pass, leaving trans fluid all the way down the track. They spent about 45 minutes cleaning it up. Then they ran about 3 more cars and someone went to the line with a coolant leak. He leaked coolant to about half track and then the line blew off and it dumped all of his coolant on the track. Next they spent another 20 minutes cleaning up the mess, but did an absolutely horrible job of this. I was the 3rd car up after this and you can see what happened above. Ryan ran right after me and spun bad off the line- 1.9 sixty foot. When he shifted to 3rd, the shift cable connector in front of the shifter broke. Luckily, we did have this part with us. Unfortunately, the lanes were closing soon. Ryan replaced the connector and got back in line. I turned the boost down from where we had it on the dyno, and backed first gear down to 80% to make sure he didn't spin again. Apparently the track dried up and quickly got better with all of the huge tired muscle cars that were running. Ryan put down a very smooth 1.68 sixty foot, despite shifting at about 50 feet out! However, having to shift like a grandma due too the massive amount of slop in the shifter, he only managed another 11.62. It was actually a couple thousandths quicker than my best ET and also had the same mph. Having put down a sixty foot .08 better than my 11.625 pass, we should have saw an 11.48 even with the same mph. Quick shifting and the 121 mph that we expected to see would have been good for an 11.45 or better. But then again, racing doesn't usually go that well.
We got to the track at about 3. We were ready to race by 3:30 or so. Ryan went to the staging lanes. There wasn't many cars in the lanes, so I just planned to wait until after his pass to bring the drag car up. Once we got up there, I realized they were only running one lane. Of course someone broke and they shut down for a bit. Then Ryan was a couple cars back and went to move the car forward and there was no shifter- just free movement. We quickly found that the roll pin on the trans had broke. We removed the shift lever and went back to the trailer, but we didn't have a roll pin or a suitable replacement. I ended up taking a rear window screw out of my car. The diameter was pretty small, which made for a lot of slop in the shifter. We put it in , but it didn't work because it was too long and hit part of the trans when shifting. So then we had to cut it shorter with a wire crimper. Then we found that the head of the bolt hit the other shift lever when shifting the other way, so we counter-sunk it with a drill. Then the nut wouldn't go on because the threads were messed up from cutting it. Now we had no choice but to remove the fuse box to get in there better. By the time we got it all together, it was about 5:00. I pulled the drag car in the lanes and Ryan pulled my LNF up behind me. We moved forward a few spots and then someone did a big wheelie and smashed his trans pan. He finished the pass, leaving trans fluid all the way down the track. They spent about 45 minutes cleaning it up. Then they ran about 3 more cars and someone went to the line with a coolant leak. He leaked coolant to about half track and then the line blew off and it dumped all of his coolant on the track. Next they spent another 20 minutes cleaning up the mess, but did an absolutely horrible job of this. I was the 3rd car up after this and you can see what happened above. Ryan ran right after me and spun bad off the line- 1.9 sixty foot. When he shifted to 3rd, the shift cable connector in front of the shifter broke. Luckily, we did have this part with us. Unfortunately, the lanes were closing soon. Ryan replaced the connector and got back in line. I turned the boost down from where we had it on the dyno, and backed first gear down to 80% to make sure he didn't spin again. Apparently the track dried up and quickly got better with all of the huge tired muscle cars that were running. Ryan put down a very smooth 1.68 sixty foot, despite shifting at about 50 feet out! However, having to shift like a grandma due too the massive amount of slop in the shifter, he only managed another 11.62. It was actually a couple thousandths quicker than my best ET and also had the same mph. Having put down a sixty foot .08 better than my 11.625 pass, we should have saw an 11.48 even with the same mph. Quick shifting and the 121 mph that we expected to see would have been good for an 11.45 or better. But then again, racing doesn't usually go that well.
shift connectors and roll pins seem to always break. you guys should make some nicee zzp ones. Everyone would buy them!
11-15-2010, 10:40 AM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...wnpipe-232710/
Where people go ZZP, the more custom parts we'll be doing for you like what is suggest above about shifter stuff.
11-15-2010, 11:52 AM
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That sucks ZZP guys, I hate when I goto the track to try and accomplish something (especially with the season ending now) and then you get derailed with just nonsense ****
GL on future runs
GL on future runs
11-15-2010, 02:02 PM
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Oh, wait. I went 11.6 at 144 in the drag car.
11-15-2010, 03:03 PM
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backdooring the dog poo out of that thing! lol i've got a buddy who went 11.8@138 in his APS twin C6 coupe on runflats against his brothers GN on DR's that went 12.0@like 119
and yes, make stuff to fix the shift linkage!
and yes, make stuff to fix the shift linkage!
11-15-2010, 04:16 PM
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