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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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ZZP LNF Cam Testing

I installed a set of prototype ZZP cams in my motor a couple days ago. Yesterday and today, I got a chance to dyno test them. Here are the results so far-

On gas with stock cams, peak whp was 332.
On gas with ZZP cams, peak whp was 362.

However, boost was a little higher on the cammed test. I thought we had a maxed turbo test on gas with stock cams, but there weren't any tests with the same test procedure. Maxing the turbo on the stock cams should have put it somewhere around 336-340 whp.

Next, I switched back to E85:

On E85 with stock cams, peak whp was 359.
On E85 with ZZP cams, peak whp was 381.

I altererd the test a little by shortening the test and running a more agressive tune, but there was very little gain. Peak whp was 383.

Here are a couple dyno sheets:

ZZP cams, gas vs. E85. Notice the 428 ft lbs(sae corrected). Uncorrected torque was over 435!


Highest whp pull


I'd post more, but I have to get my drag car(Grand Prix) ready to race tomorrow.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Nice I cant wait for these to come out. Any word on the RPD gauge pod?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Looking good. Ready to see them with big turbo and maybe videos? Then I will be ready for a set lol.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Sweet!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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what are we looking at as far as duration and lift.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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do a how to cam install, i'm sure this will help you sell more cam because not eveyone knows or are confidence to do cam swap.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Crazyness.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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This might give us 2.4 guys some hope as well. I think one of the lnf cams is interchangeable with the le5. So Im in for updates on this! But good results guys and was the cam change radical enough to be heard through the exhaust?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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WOW Nice gains! I think lift is what ZZP messed with the most as duration probably would not gain us as much since the LNF can phase the cams anyways, so dunno if duration would gain us much...???
Bigger turbo and higher lift cams is a great combo man. This is great
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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duration is just as important, under boost you want the intake valve open as long as you can, even when the piston is starting to come back up.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by army_greywolf
duration is just as important, under boost you want the intake valve open as long as you can, even when the piston is starting to come back up.
I guess. Just figured that lift is more important since you can get more air from the turbo in there in the same amount time rather than mess with duration as much on the LNF. Duration has a bigger effect on an N/A car I think. I dont know much about the dynamics... lol... so dont pay any attention to me. Just thinking out loud
Very cool nonetheless! These with the BNR upgraded turbo = WIN
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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innnteresting .. gets my nooddle ticking
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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for the amount im sure the cams will cost i dont think 20whp gain is worth it. but lets see the end result
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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this is sick Matt I will want some!!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Yea but the sound and the gain on a big turbo will prolly be significant.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Yea but the sound and the gain on a big turbo will prolly be significant.
hell yea! or they could make another staged cam for there bigger turbos
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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interesting!!!!! more info please
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fakameanrepresent
do a how to cam install, i'm sure this will help you sell more cam because not eveyone knows or are confidence to do cam swap.
That's a good idea. It's actually pretty easy and only takes a couple hours. You just need to be careful with the cam timing.

Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
This might give us 2.4 guys some hope as well. I think one of the lnf cams is interchangeable with the le5. So Im in for updates on this! But good results guys and was the cam change radical enough to be heard through the exhaust?
We should be releasing 2.4 cams as well.

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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wow ZZP is at it again awesome work guys!!!!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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for the amount im sure the cams will cost i dont think 20whp gain is worth it. but lets see the end result
Pricing should be reasonable. These will easily outperform a K04 compressor wheel upgrade dollar for dollar. Plus, they will still be useful if you decide to upgrade to a bigger turbo.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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whats the possible release date?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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hey matt should these be forsale by spring?

how are these going to be in a DD car? how is the cold start?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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These cams are not huge by any means. They are about 8-10 degrees longer duration than stock IIRC. Lift is increased by ~.018". The tops of the lobes are a bit wider, keeping the valves vear max lift longer, which is where the majority of the gains come from.
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