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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Automatic on a SS/SC?

I am not too knowledgable about the engine workings of cars so i thought id ask- I was wondering if you could get a SS/SC with an automatic transmition.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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no... not from factory
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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I posted this in the general section a min ago, my bad. I reposted it in the apropriat section.
I am not too knowledgable about the engine workings of cars so i thought id ask- I was wondering if you could get a SS/SC with an automatic transmition.

I think you can get a 2.4L SS in an auto
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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I'm glad it can't be equipped with an auto.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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........an automatic sports car? I hope they don't ruin the SS S/C with an auto gear box or silly flapper paddles.... like they did the Evo
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Flappers suck. Auto trannies suck.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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Flappers suck. Auto trannies suck.
you asked dude.... you obviously liked the idea.... and flappers dont suck, im pretty sure a ferrari would smoke the **** out of an ss, and so would a bmw m3........ no clutch pedals means no lag time between gears, when you can shift in .3 seconds, you let me know
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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you asked dude.... you obviously liked the idea.... and flappers dont suck, im pretty sure a ferrari would smoke the **** out of an ss, and so would a bmw m3........ no clutch pedals means no lag time between gears, when you can shift in .3 seconds, you let me know

An SMG is a lot different then the pos automatics the big 3 use.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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I'm glad it can't be equipped with an auto.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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gm offers it in a 5spd , cause the auto would be faster


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its because they dont want to use the 4t65e in it
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by italstalnprd86
you asked dude.... you obviously liked the idea.... and flappers dont suck, im pretty sure a ferrari would smoke the **** out of an ss, and so would a bmw m3........ no clutch pedals means no lag time between gears, when you can shift in .3 seconds, you let me know
You fool, Nate didn't ask.

Wow I didn't know that a flapper paddle transmission is going to make your car as fast as a Ferrari. Let me the first to say I'm going to build a flapping 4t65 for the SS then! Look out Enzo, flapping Cobalt is comin' for ya!

And flappers belong in the 40's
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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I got a auto base cobalt... well because the manual they had at the dealer was "YELLOW" .. but that's not the point. the point is that i don't car if my cars a auto, manual , tiptronic, smg, i really don't care. if i bought and like it then so what. what people think. And i defintley for sure know there are some auto's that can beat manuals anyday.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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And i defintley for sure know there are some auto's that can beat manuals anyday.
Sure a properly setup automatic can. But what happens when you put one in an, oooohhh, let’s say.... RX8. Significantly slower eh? Because there's more driveline loss. And it’s not like it takes much to drive a race automatic - push up for gear up, pull down for gear down. Some you just put your foot down and keep the wheel straight. But where’s the fun in that? People don’t buy sports cars to drive in a straight line, in the words of the Cobalt brochure,
“COBALT SS SUPERCHARGED COUPE.
THE STRRAIGHT AND NARROW IS HIGHLY OVERTATED
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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I got a auto base cobalt... well because the manual they had at the dealer was "YELLOW" .. but that's not the point. the point is that i don't car if my cars a auto, manual , tiptronic, smg, i really don't care. if i bought and like it then so what. what people think. And i defintley for sure know there are some auto's that can beat manuals anyday.

And some manual's can beat auto's. You like your auto? Good. We like our manual tranny's.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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And some manual's can beat auto's. You like your auto? Good. We like our manual tranny's.
Tru.. yes. your right and vamp your 100% correct to the rx-8 to me was a dissapointment in both transmissions. yes i like my auto and i like manuals to because my friend has a 97' acura cl and i drive his car some times and he drives mine. I know we got our own opinons but we don't have to bash auto that hard.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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You fool, Nate didn't ask.

Wow I didn't know that a flapper paddle transmission is going to make your car as fast as a Ferrari. Let me the first to say I'm going to build a flapping 4t65 for the SS then! Look out Enzo, flapping Cobalt is comin' for ya!

And flappers belong in the 40's
never said the ss was going to beat a ferrari, just saying the car itself would be faster, especially with an smg. and that 500hp phase 5, with a little more work, probably could outrun an enzo in a drag.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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I think you should be able to get an automatic in whatever engine. Just offer the option. If you don't like an auto---just get the 5 speed. And BTW---I love manuals but love CHOICE even more.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Great, its the old auto vs. manual argument again. So what if GM did offer the SS/SC with an auto as an option? You don't have to buy it that way. I can tell you if they did, I would have bought it.
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I love manuals but love CHOICE even more.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by italstalnprd86
you asked dude.... you obviously liked the idea.... and flappers dont suck, im pretty sure a ferrari would smoke the **** out of an ss, and so would a bmw m3........ no clutch pedals means no lag time between gears, when you can shift in .3 seconds, you let me know
I don' think you understand what you are talking about. There is a huge difference between and automatic with paddle shifts and a Sequential Manual, like those used in Ferraris.

Automatics with manual control are hardly more than a gimmick. They may be more entertaining to drive than a regular auto, but they offer no performance gain in any respect. All "manu-matics" consist of is a standard automatic with some added software to allow the driver to tell the trans when to upshift and downshift, and half the time it overrides your selection anyway.

True Sequential Manuals, like those on a Ferrari, are not "automatics" by any means. They have real gearboxes and a real clutch, and both are operated by servos controlled by the PCM. Shift times are so quick because the computer can operate the clutch and change gears almost instantaneously, much faster than any human can. Some have an "auto" mode, but all it really does is allow for the computer to decide when to change gears instead of the driver.

As for the SS S/C having an automatic, that would be a complete waste of a vehicle. A performance oriented vehicle such as the SS S/C should only come in manual, its just the nature of the car. It would be pointless for GM to waste R&D money on fitting the car with an auto, only to end up with a slower, more expensive, less fuel efficient, heavier, and overall just worse car in general.
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Originally Posted by wesmanw02
As for the SS S/C having an automatic, that would be a complete waste of a vehicle. A performance oriented vehicle such as the SS S/C should only come in manual, its just the nature of the car. It would be pointless for GM to waste R&D money on fitting the car with an auto, only to end up with a slower, more expensive, less fuel efficient, heavier, and overall just worse car in general.
That my friends, is the truth spelled out in sentences.
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