Bad-Mab Header hath arrived!
Joined: 12-30-07
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From: NEPA
Good! Common grounds FTW!
I do not want to make enemies. I come here to extend my knowledge and try to help where I can. It is always good to be aware of all options, right? There are things I have purchased that, had I known about a different product that suited my needs better, I would have bought.
You seem to be a nice guy, and with that I will get out of this thread and sorry if I caused, er.. Disturbance. For lack of a better word.
I do not want to make enemies. I come here to extend my knowledge and try to help where I can. It is always good to be aware of all options, right? There are things I have purchased that, had I known about a different product that suited my needs better, I would have bought.You seem to be a nice guy, and with that I will get out of this thread and sorry if I caused, er.. Disturbance. For lack of a better word.
I don't like starting **** either. I try to keep the nonsense on this site to minimum
Yeah, I think I'll trust ZZP, seeing as how all of their parts are made in-house. They have a dyno, and they hold the record for the worlds fastest Cobalt(s). Not to mention they probably single-handed have the most parts for the Cobalt. 
Your statement was very, er, how do I put this.. Idiotic. ZZP does their homework before they make parts. Much more credibility than Bad-Mab.
It's okay, when someone actually cares enough to dyno their LT, half of this thread will sell their manifold to get a real header.
My $0.02

No, but after reading 5 pages, they like to bash LT setups because they can't afford them, then their reasoning is because their is no "proof". Then when someone comes in here and says something about their budgeting they get mad.
I'm going to keep my mouth shut after because I would rather have a LT any day, and I could care less what they run really.
Your statement was very, er, how do I put this.. Idiotic. ZZP does their homework before they make parts. Much more credibility than Bad-Mab.
It's okay, when someone actually cares enough to dyno their LT, half of this thread will sell their manifold to get a real header.
My $0.02
No, but after reading 5 pages, they like to bash LT setups because they can't afford them, then their reasoning is because their is no "proof". Then when someone comes in here and says something about their budgeting they get mad.
I'm going to keep my mouth shut after because I would rather have a LT any day, and I could care less what they run really.

we dont bash the lt. some of us just cant justify spending 500 dollars on a header. i love my badmab. im a poor college student. i would get ott lt before i got zzps though
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There is enough proof in this thread that the header and the seller are a great product. If you want to speak of the ZZP LTH or the OTTP LTH open up a thread containing proof that it gains power.
There is enough proof in this thread that the header and the seller are a great product. If you want to speak of the ZZP LTH or the OTTP LTH open up a thread containing proof that it gains power.
I personally could not justify spending 300 plus more for a header that i had no info on. I would also assume it would provide better gains but nothing has been proven yet. I know its a quality piece but the cost per hp for the gains are just not worth it.
oh to ever says zzp has the fastest cobalts thats completely untrue.... they have the fastest lnf at the moment yes.....but there has been a few lsj cars faster that make 1k hp plus.....but enough of getting off topic
none the less im surprised brad hasent gotten in here to chime in on this yet...or maybe i missed it. chances are they are sought out over seas. i cant see everything being that different if it was made by one guy nor would i be happy with that product. problem with the china made crap is all that stuff is made in probablly 8 different factorys across china and by a bunch of different people that have better skill and some have worse skill. so im sure it works and im sure its not a bad product BUT if this was an intake manifold i would never put that on my car.
none the less im surprised brad hasent gotten in here to chime in on this yet...or maybe i missed it. chances are they are sought out over seas. i cant see everything being that different if it was made by one guy nor would i be happy with that product. problem with the china made crap is all that stuff is made in probablly 8 different factorys across china and by a bunch of different people that have better skill and some have worse skill. so im sure it works and im sure its not a bad product BUT if this was an intake manifold i would never put that on my car.
Yo 07MetallicSC, those are some good torque numbers from a s/c'ed setup! Thank you for posting a dyno sheet, aka "hard evidence." There's no room to argue with a dyno sheet lol. You've def got me sold on the Bad-Mab header, and for the price, how can you beat that?!?!?!? haha Thank you for all the valuable info in this thread, and nice hp/tq. numbers!! 

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