This has already been debated on the svt/cobra forums. It's more beneficial to spray the meth AFTER the blower/laminovas.

Guess who discovered this? Joe Kincaid. The guy who sells the killer chiller. There's a reason he put so much effort into cooling the intake charge right before the head, instead of focusing on before the blower.

 

Well, I'm glad it has been discussed over there before. However, I have not ventured over there so I wouldn't know that.

I am well aware of what cooling would be best suited, but to keep my car consistant pull after pull spraying before the blower works best for me. Consistancy is a huge factor because 1 pull is ok, but back to back pulls is definitely going to change some perspectives when that supercharger is screaming hot vs it being consistantly at room temperature under the hood. I'm sure the Killer Chiller works great as well. Combine the two together and I'd bet that would be one hell of "Cool" combo.

 

my blower never gets hot
2.9" now...dropping to a 2.8" shortly

 

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...0&postcount=47

Here's a quick link. There are lots more discussions, just gotta google them. The fact is, the people that claim that it works best "for them" spraying before the blower never have any data to back up their claims. Where as the people that claim that it works best POST blower have actually done the math and done the research and proved the difference.

 

this is only a problem at the track and in the summer just because the car is on or sitting

like last night in the drive thru at burger king 140IAT, 78 degrees out, start driving around it comes down to 110

 

if your iat2 is still at 110 then something is wrong. My differential temps between iat1 and iat2 is about 15-18*, never more. Something about your cooling loop is either backwards, or you should invest in either a single or dual pass. If your ambient is at 78*, you should never cross over 100.

 

Run your fans at 100%.

Open your hood and let the fans run with the car off in between passes. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes tops.

 

You might start to notice heat with the 2.8" more so, but when you get down to the man pulleys the heat comes in to effect a lot more.

 

I've seen unsurpassed sucess with air to air and direct injected meth. No one in the world yet has lower AIT's..... I promiss you and it was fairly cheap! Check out freakta and his post's about it.

 

I'll do some reading when I get back from my mission later on this week. I'm not claiming anything here, I am stating what I have tuned and dialed in personally on a few cars in South Carolina. I have done my fair share of datalogging and tuning in all different weather conditions, and I am not known for having the fastest Cobalt in Charleston for no reason at all.

 

I still wanna race you when I get down there. I think it would be fun!

 

What the Integra or the Cobalt? You'll have to wait until I fix the Cobalt, and I'll only have the M62 with a 2.6" pulley on the Cobalt. I am going broke as we speak though for some reason.

 

I'll race in the winter lol

 

Sounds like a plan. You might have to move down south though. I just checked the other day and the tracks are open until December! Means I have time to get back, fix ****, and tear up the track with the teg!

 

are you talking about cruising or on a pull as well?

 

Guys. Its silly to argue IAT1 and IAT2 temps. If anyone follows them closely you will know that they are consistently inconsistent.

Ambient air temps and humidity greatly affect IAT temps. Unless both those variables are the same throw all your IAT1 vs IAT2 comparisons out the window.

And I agree with Ralli. Spray post SC/Laminova. Don't waist all that energy cooling objects that are going to heat up anyway. Let that cool charge go directly into head.

 

air to air will keep everythinng cold

 

do you have a how to and pics on how to go air to air?

 

You should not make those claims unless you are able to back it up with UNBIAS proof.

 

If you're a broke, deployed servicemember, and you're not married..., that always leads to one thing for a gearhead. You're not fooling me.

What track do you run at down there? I'd be interested before it gets too cold. I stay around the beaufort area, so the drive isn't that bad. Hell, I'd probably stay the night up there before actually going home.

I'm guessing the teggy.

Just cruising...silly wabbit!lol

If he's not driving hard, then there should be no reason for the temps to have that amount of separation. In 90*+ weather, on a second gear pull, I'll see iat2 around 122*, and for a third gear pull, I see about 140*. Usually it'll be a few degrees more going from 4k in second to 7.5k in third.

 

i was just making sure!

 

I think we're all agreed that humidity has a great effect on iat's. It's just up in the air as to where the best point of injection is. And until we can get a real world comparison as to what works best, this will continue. Unfortunately.

I did kind of leave that statement open. But I for one shouldn't be talking about heat. I know what it is to have a fubar h/e coolant loop.

 

Those links ralli also have no "proof"... i mean he goes on to say how it didnt work and how it didnt lower iat2s that much.... but then at the end says..

"So again, if you really want to get the most knock protection from it so you can crank up the boost, the best place to inject the methanol is past the intercooler, like oldbones is doing. Although he doesn’t have any IAT2 numbers yet, I sincerely believe he is going to see decent reductions so he can crank up the boost."

 

Ok. I know a way to clear this up. Let's answer a few questions. For starters, where exactly does the pickup for the iat2 reading come from. Namely where exactly between the maf and the head?

 

Yes, I'm broke. Yes, I have a girlfriend. Yes, I have a mortgage payment and stuff to do around the house when I get back. No, I am not trying to fool you. These are some pics of something that is being made for me.









Dorchester dragway off exit 187 and down the road a ways. It's only and 1/8th but it usually makes for a good time on a Wednesday or Sunday night.

You can race the teggy if you'd like, but I have to fix my boost creep issue first so I can finally tune it!