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OTTP just came out with a 4th version of their H.E. I'm waiting to here some more information about it before I make a final purchase. OTTP's new version is a radiator style H.E. like ZZP's S3. They dropped the bar and plate design that their 3rd version had.
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I own the OTTP H/E. It gets the job done and is built like a tank, so it can withstand some accidental/unexpected scraping.
The ZZP S3 unit is better by design and will keep your temps cooler, but because of its lighter construction it is more susceptible to being bent/broken by accidental scraping.
They both have their pros and cons but ultimately neither can match a Griffin h/e. The Griffin unit replaces the stocker but is twice the depth so it provides superior cooling with a single unit instead of having to run two h/e in series. It costs ~$700 though. Similar in price to a Hahn I/C for the T/C.
The ZZP S3 unit is better by design and will keep your temps cooler, but because of its lighter construction it is more susceptible to being bent/broken by accidental scraping.
They both have their pros and cons but ultimately neither can match a Griffin h/e. The Griffin unit replaces the stocker but is twice the depth so it provides superior cooling with a single unit instead of having to run two h/e in series. It costs ~$700 though. Similar in price to a Hahn I/C for the T/C.
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If you want to talk 'best'... the Griffin HE from the GA cars is the best... but you will pay for it. And the only way to get it is to call up Griffin and beg to them to build you one.
As far as add-on front mounts go, the ZZP Stage 3 is the best you can get. It uses a real deal water to air core, with light weight end tanks. It is far more efficient at displacing heat from the coolant.
Next in line, you'd have the ZZP Stage 2 / OTTP system, which is pretty much a decent budget core made in China. It's basically a modified air to air core with channel stock end tanks. A fair bit heavier, and less efficient... but gets the job done.
Next is the ZZP Stage 1 / CXRacing / etc systems. They are a real budget core, with a real budget design. Usually a smaller, air to air core with channel stock end tanks. Even less efficient than the other deigns.
As far as add-on front mounts go, the ZZP Stage 3 is the best you can get. It uses a real deal water to air core, with light weight end tanks. It is far more efficient at displacing heat from the coolant.
Next in line, you'd have the ZZP Stage 2 / OTTP system, which is pretty much a decent budget core made in China. It's basically a modified air to air core with channel stock end tanks. A fair bit heavier, and less efficient... but gets the job done.
Next is the ZZP Stage 1 / CXRacing / etc systems. They are a real budget core, with a real budget design. Usually a smaller, air to air core with channel stock end tanks. Even less efficient than the other deigns.
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The one I hear that Griffin makes what part number is it? Would anyone know if not what size is this unit and were should the inlet and outlet be located for easy install. Griffin is down the road from me and my dad is a distributor for them. All cars built at my dads shop has Griffin in them. I think i may be able to get some prices on this h/e from Griffin if I have the right details part number etc.
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You should have your father hand the list to Griffin to show them the interest in their Cobalt H.E., and maybe they will work with us on somthing. If we could get 10 or so people to do this maybe Griffin will build them for us, and lower the cost slightly. I don't mind paying a little more for something that is superior, but it would be nice to pay a little less than the $600-$700 they charge for it.
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The one I hear that Griffin makes what part number is it? Would anyone know if not what size is this unit and were should the inlet and outlet be located for easy install. Griffin is down the road from me and my dad is a distributor for them. All cars built at my dads shop has Griffin in them. I think i may be able to get some prices on this h/e from Griffin if I have the right details part number etc.
Thanks,
Thanks,
so how does the heat exchanger work? when i was lookin at my s3 he i could see threw it, but i never seen any hoses going threw it for the air to cool down the hoses. i thought thats how they worked.
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We should gather a group of people that are interested in the Griffin H.E., and make a group buy list.
You should have your father hand the list to Griffin to show them the interest in their Cobalt H.E., and maybe they will work with us on somthing. If we could get 10 or so people to do this maybe Griffin will build them for us, and lower the cost slightly. I don't mind paying a little more for something that is superior, but it would be nice to pay a little less than the $600-$700 they charge for it.
You should have your father hand the list to Griffin to show them the interest in their Cobalt H.E., and maybe they will work with us on somthing. If we could get 10 or so people to do this maybe Griffin will build them for us, and lower the cost slightly. I don't mind paying a little more for something that is superior, but it would be nice to pay a little less than the $600-$700 they charge for it.
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