yea i know theres a stock one, its a great application for the stock pully to gm stage 2...after that it isnt enough to keep the temps down by itself, which is way i recomended a front mount h/e....running both is whats recomended

and the griffen is suppose to be great inplace of the stocker, and even better when used with a front mount...

 

because my buddy did that and hes always had fitment issues...but then again he didnt get the zzp pullys

 

Agreed.

Although, There is no need for a front mount H/E when you run the Griffin.

 

ok so iv drawn the conclusion that the griffin h/e is bada** lol