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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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you need to go back to little boys school and learn how to form a sentance
Well, U should had been more careful of what U say around people. If U want people buy Ur products then how does that make Ur reps look good for Ur business. I apologized if I say things to U but U have no idea of who I am. I am hard of hearing myself n Yeah I know my grammar or English not as good as yours.
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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what you going soft yelcal
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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If only you morons realized how much knowledge mrb had... You'd respect him more. He's a good dude.
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Well, We are all human with a living souls. It ain't worth it to keep doing like this, It's just pointless. You wanna stay mad, I'll respect your decision.
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TStone
If only you morons realized how much knowledge mrb had... You'd respect him more. He's a good dude.
HAD, your right

This guy comes in, say all this **** how cooling mods are useless, and provides zero data. Anyone can talk out of their ass and there is a reason why his pos slow car is broke

Smart ass guy there
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Im sure he could run circles around most of us on here.
he's done nothin but help..he's trying to help new comers EFFECTIVELY mod there cars..with parts that make a difference...i know ive wasted a ton of money on part i didn't need..Im sure most of us have..
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TStone
If only you morons realized how much knowledge mrb had... You'd respect him more. He's a good dude.
troof. but between noobs and trolling and lack of patience older folks have (like me) with the same old/ same old /circle jerk discussions, some threads go to hell. This is an example
cooling mods:
option B #1 IN CAPS.
dual pass
griffin h/e all you need
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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I meant has you asshat. Mrb's car would run circles around you. He knows more than you'll ever know. And you'll prolly never realize that.

I wish there were more people around here that listened to the very knowledgable people that try to help.. Mrb, area, Powell, & many many others
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Well, We are all human with a living souls. It ain't worth it to keep doing like this, It's just pointless. You wanna stay mad, I'll respect your decision.
Im not mad snookums

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HAD, your right

This guy comes in, say all this **** how cooling mods are useless, and provides zero data. Anyone can talk out of their ass and there is a reason why his pos slow car is broke

Smart ass guy there
lmao look mr hard ass i know how and why my car broke and i dont need to post **** for your dumb ass how many different h.e. configs and intake configs have you run ive ran mine stock with a a front mount ive ran no front mount with a dual pass and ive ran dual pass with a front mount and guess what worked best stock with a front mount did it recover faster with a dual pass yea but not so much faster that it was worth cost if your not scca racing you should be more concerned about how to keep the iat2 from rising so fast and keeping(dragracing) it stable when your roll racing you have the airflow over the h.e. for a fast recovery all that is needed for most of the people on the boards is a good efficiant add on
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Don't even feed the trolls. Let them waste their money.
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
you should be more concerned about how to keep the iat2 from rising so fast
This is the key right here. Recovery is nice, needed in some applications, but keeping the temp down, or slowing its rise, we can all benefit from.

Tjolley keeps saying it -- N2O

Meth

More efficient supercharger, more efficient cylinder head (ported exhaust), more efficient cooler in the intake all get my votes for most bang for the buck on IAT2 control.

Then add option b
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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Bam. Plain and simple. In black and white.
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love you mr. b
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
Im not mad snookums



lmao look mr hard ass i know how and why my car broke and i dont need to post **** for your dumb ass how many different h.e. configs and intake configs have you run ive ran mine stock with a a front mount ive ran no front mount with a dual pass and ive ran dual pass with a front mount and guess what worked best stock with a front mount did it recover faster with a dual pass yea but not so much faster that it was worth cost if your not scca racing you should be more concerned about how to keep the iat2 from rising so fast and keeping(dragracing) it stable when your roll racing you have the airflow over the h.e. for a fast recovery all that is needed for most of the people on the boards is a good efficiant add on
Not a Problem then Deena
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
Im not mad snookums



lmao look mr hard ass i know how and why my car broke and i dont need to post **** for your dumb ass how many different h.e. configs and intake configs have you run ive ran mine stock with a a front mount ive ran no front mount with a dual pass and ive ran dual pass with a front mount and guess what worked best stock with a front mount did it recover faster with a dual pass yea but not so much faster that it was worth cost if your not scca racing you should be more concerned about how to keep the iat2 from rising so fast and keeping(dragracing) it stable when your roll racing you have the airflow over the h.e. for a fast recovery all that is needed for most of the people on the boards is a good efficiant add on
Im sorry but so much fail in this, ok u tested all of these things and u said what worked best was stock with a front mount but u contradicted that by saying it did recover faster with dual pass so guess what that means that what worked best was stock, front mount, and dual pass. Also u said the dual pass was not worth the cost? Umm a dual pass is 80 bucks new and u already paid for it so giving the lame excuse it cost too much to be worth it is pointless sonce it was already paid for. U just answered my question cooling mods are worth it! Thanks for telling the truth for once.
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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BOOM!!!! Busted!!!!
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 01:11 AM
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You missed mr b's point when he said it's not worthwhile. He didn't say it made no difference he simply was saying it isn't cost effective for the small change he saw on his vehicle for the type of driving he does. He is telling you if you are worried about drag racing stop worrying about recovery times and concentrate on things to prevent the heat from rising in the first place. Bigger power adders, nitrous, meth, porting and polishing etc are what will help you in a drag.
Read JP's post again. He is looking at it from a racers point of view so he is most concerned with keeping temps stable over a complete race. His suggestions are different frm mr b's because they have different needs. He was there when gm was trying all these things. He is telling you what gm determined was effective after numerous test runs and races.
All of this has been posted 100's of times. The reason that many of the people who are most informed about this platform don't post too often is because they get tired of spoon-feeding the info. If you have some knowledge and read between the lines they are writing there are usually hints that will allow you to figure out the answer yourself. They are teaching you to fish rather than feeding you. Some will learn, others will just swallow up whatever the masses regurgitate.
Just because something is new and improved doesn't mean it's the best. Products are produced because people want them and will buy them not because they are necessary.

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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 01:17 AM
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Every small change for cooling is good.
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sLAsh
You missed mr b's point when he said it's not worthwhile. He didn't say it made no difference he simply was saying it isn't cost effective for the small change he saw on his vehicle for the type of driving he does. He is telling you if you are worried about drag racing stop worrying about recovery times and concentrate on things to prevent the heat from rising in the first place. Bigger power adders, nitrous, meth, porting and polishing etc are what will help you in a drag.
Read JP's post again. He is looking at it from a racers point of view so he is most concerned with keeping temps stable over a complete race. His suggestions are different frm mr b's because they have different needs. He was there when gm was trying all these things. He is telling you what gm determined was effective after numerous test runs and races.
All of this has been posted 100's of times. The reason that many of the people who are most informed about this platform don't post too often is because they get tired of spoon-feeding the info. If you have some knowledge and read between the lines they are writing there are usually hints that will allow you to figure out the answer yourself. They are teaching you to fish rather than feeding you. Some will learn, others will just swallow up whatever the masses regurgitate.
Just because something is new and improved doesn't mean it's the best. Products are produced because people want them and will buy them not because they are necessary.
couldnt have said it better
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sLAsh
You missed mr b's point when he said it's not worthwhile. He didn't say it made no difference he simply was saying it isn't cost effective for the small change he saw on his vehicle for the type of driving he does. He is telling you if you are worried about drag racing stop worrying about recovery times and concentrate on things to prevent the heat from rising in the first place. Bigger power adders, nitrous, meth, porting and polishing etc are what will help you in a drag.
Read JP's post again. He is looking at it from a racers point of view so he is most concerned with keeping temps stable over a complete race. His suggestions are different frm mr b's because they have different needs. He was there when gm was trying all these things. He is telling you what gm determined was effective after numerous test runs and races.
All of this has been posted 100's of times. The reason that many of the people who are most informed about this platform don't post too often is because they get tired of spoon-feeding the info. If you have some knowledge and read between the lines they are writing there are usually hints that will allow you to figure out the answer yourself. They are teaching you to fish rather than feeding you. Some will learn, others will just swallow up whatever the masses regurgitate.
Just because something is new and improved doesn't mean it's the best. Products are produced because people want them and will buy them not because they are necessary.
All of what u just typed is a load of bullshit, let me tell u why, u said mr b was there when gm tested these cars to determine what was best, guess what GM SELLS A DUAL PASS, oh **** say what? Yup thats right gm felt a dual pass was needed with a pulley that is 2.99 or smaller so they sold a dual pass for it so if mr b was there when gm decided that then he wouldnt be telling people that a dual pass is a waste of money, zzp sells them for 80 bucks thats like eatting out twice for most of u im sure. And before some ass hat responds that the gm stg 3 is for off road use only, i know that already gm would never sell someone a kit that comes with nitrous rdy setup and have it street legal.
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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He said jp said that not mr.b
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 03:08 AM
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Went downhill from page one only a few posts in. There is some good info in here if you can sift out all the finger pointing and name calling.
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