victory_red_SS

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I have chosen to add a dry sump to my project. To minimize the time needed to produce this for my car I am wondering if anyone knows of a company that has already made a dry sump kit for the LSJ?
I have found that ARE makes something for the Ecotec and it looks like they used a dry sump on the Time Attack Cobalt but the more options I have should speed the process up.
Thanks in advance.

Johnboy12358

Ok, noob warning....
Dry Sump?

CTORANGESC

Its an external oiling system.

Johnboy12358

ahh ok, thanks

Tomtwtwtw

Helps prevent the engine from being starved of oil during extreme lateral g's...

Johnboy12358

ahh i see

c24na

Also keeps oil from splashing on the crank and slowing the rotation, which = more free up hp.

nate

ItalianJoe1

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Question for you-

Are you gonna use an engine driven system, like the new Z06, or a standalone Accu-sump style one?? My dad used to build a race car for SCCA racing, and it had a separate dry sump with its own pump. Nothing like flipping a switch and having like 80psi before even cranking the engine.

ImaginaryForce

Sweetness + More Horsepower = Dry Sump

victory_red_SS

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Yes

And Yes
I believe the plan is to use a pulley driven pump that is run off the accessories not the engine. The decision was just made today so we will have a concrete answer sometime next week.

ReggaeRampage

I was thinking the same thing.

ItalianJoe1

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Ok, i was just wondering. I know a lot of new performance cars with dry-sumps are using a pump set up like a power-steering pump, belt driven off of the crank, so it works like a normal pump with only some of the advantages mentioned above, also with remote resivors and oil coolers. The original dry-sump systems were also designed for less wear, by allowing you to start the engine with oil pressure, and to remote mount the pump and resivior, like in the trunk or something, for weight, temperature and space reasons. Kepp us informed.

Tung

hey rod is your car going to be at DTP this june?

victory_red_SS

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No
The dry sump is going to add some time to the project so I am thinking I should have it back say 2009. Actually I am setting an unmovable completion date of Aug 15th, 2007.

victory_red_SS

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Well I lucked out, finally. I talked to ARE and they have a complete dry sump kit that "is" the same type as those uedd on the Corvette. The only thing required will be the lines.
The downside is that it's pulley is mounted where the A\C is. We are going to investigate an alternative way to have air conditioning but I may end up sacrificing it, which I really don't want to do.

g5mike

Oh ok! this is nothing like dry socket.

SuperEco06

Now after reading this I have been researching dry sump setups. Is Accusump a true dry sump system? If not is it as good as, or is it kinda in between wet and dry sump?

EmperorJJ1

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sry for the thread jack but do you have a thread about your RWD conversion... im hoping theres a kit

TurboTechRacing

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I did this back in the day on my Cavalier with the 2.4L LD9 engine, i used the complete Moroso setup, stage 3 pump, 1.5 gal oil tank, etc. Worked very well, I did have to make a custom bracket to mount the pump where the A/C pump went, and then i took the crank pull and added a hub to it, that mounted the drive gear pulley on it. Cost about $2000-$3000 to do, but in an all out drag car it is a must. Car rev faster, made more power, more constant oil pressure.

If you have any questions we can help you out, just let us know.

victory_red_SS

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The expense of doing this will likely change your mind on RWD, but if not I am sure the companies doing this would provide the information on what all was done. As for a kit, I don't see enough demand to make one of those.
I will keep that in mind. The downside with the ARE kit made for the Time Attack Cobalt is GM didn't want A/C and thats where the pulley was postioned. Because I plan on driving on the street still, I really want A/C.

06blackg85ss

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yeah I was gonna tell you that, but saw the thread too late.. lol I was researching it for my car, and since I don't have a/c anymore..... it shouldn't be an issue. But now just gotta get some cash together and finish the motor, than I"ll think about going drysump. but from what I researched ARE has the best setup out for the ecotecs.

victory_red_SS

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When I talked to ARE the fellow said GM sent them not one but 2 LSJ's to design the dry sump kit. The engines are still sitting there. Must be nice.
As for the A/C we are looking at making a setup similar to the design of the supercooler being designed for my engine. Hopefully we get to have some type of A/C as there was also an issue of the T56 transmission sitting where part of the A/C unit normally is.