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Old 02-12-2009, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tennpenn83
you're right, except the 1/4 line should be going to the top of the coolant reservoir/ice box
no, you run it into the BOTTOM of the ice box. That way when air comes out, liquid can filter back in.

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Hey Ralli this is your buddy Qwik. You ALWAYS neeed a bleeder line. It has nothing to do with the inlet/ outlet on the bottom, or on the moon. The bleeder gets the air out on a continuous basis, even if you run your single pass without a bleeder line you are missing out. Just sayin'

And i have no idea if you made your single pass right internally we never discussed that, all I know is your IAT numbers show it worked...
there is no way to run one from the cxracing h/e. And it isn't designed as poorly as the stock h/e. The only way to run a bleeder line on it, would be to drill and tap a nipple into the top.

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Ralli that diagram of the cores and hosing look good to you too?
Old 02-12-2009, 01:01 PM
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yea. you are making the 2 inner cores your inlet right?
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:03 PM
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yup, yer good.
Old 02-12-2009, 01:05 PM
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alright ralli thanks for everything hopefully get this **** in this weekend looks like it's gonna get cold here again but w/e **** it. get it setup and some pics of your tank up for you here and on rlf
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Ralli, there is a nipple on the CXR h/e. Do I need to run a bleeder hose to the tank?
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that nipple doesn't do anything unless the cap is released. So I would say no.
Old 02-12-2009, 10:20 PM
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Ok heres the deal, someone on RLF suggested that pumping coolant into the reservoir isn't the way to go, but to rather pump out of it and have the laminovas push into it.
Which leads me to what i hope to be my final predicament, What are your guys thoughts on these 2 setups.



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Originally Posted by ralliartist
no, you run it into the BOTTOM of the ice box. That way when air comes out, liquid can filter back in.
i will have to disagree. the location for the 1/4 line is on the top of pretty much any coolant reservoir, not the bottom. even so with the redline tank included in the option b kit

the air needs to go from the top of the heat exchanger to the top of the reservoir. also, the .040" orifice (if you use it) should go in the 1/4 hose at the bottom of the 1/4 hose line, closest to the heat exchanger. that .040" orifice is there so that fluid does not enter the 1/4 line in any way
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any thoughts on the 2 setups??
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Originally Posted by daythecountrydied21
any thoughts on the 2 setups??
honestly, neither of the last two are ones i would consider.

regardless of what anyone says.. you want to coolest possible liquid going through the intake manifold. in my opinion, how i would do it, route your hoses this way:

pump
heat exchanger
second heat exchanger (if you have it)
ice box
intake manifold
pump

if you do it this way, you'll be perfectly fine

dont' forget which way the pump flows!!
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what way does the pump flow? everyone seemed to be saying it doesn't matter?
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Originally Posted by daythecountrydied21
what way does the pump flow? everyone seemed to be saying it doesn't matter?
it matters. its marked. comon...there is a frickin' arrow out is the hose end perpendicular to the pump, in is the center hose.

All you folks here, its fun to try to help, some of us make a living working on cars, so its frustrating as hell when there are 20 trillion posts on how to do this and that, and some of you want to tell us how to do things, and YA CANT EVEN LOOK AT THE DARN PUMP!

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Originally Posted by qwikredline
it matters. its marked. comon...there is a frickin' arrow out is the hose end perpendicular to the pump, in is the center hose.

All you folks here, its fun to try to help, some of us make a living working on cars, so its frustrating as hell when there are 20 trillion posts on how to do this and that, and some of you want to tell us how to do things, and YA CANT EVEN LOOK AT THE DARN PUMP!

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Lol john I would've looked and seen that and asked eventually, but common consensus on here seemed to be saying the the pump would flow either way...Did seem weird to me but I figured hey w/e sure.

While you're in here, do you have any thoughts on the last 2 diagrams posted as which would be the better? Guess I'll get under my car when i get home and see what way the coolants flowing so I can possibly adjust.
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is this what you're saying tenn?

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Originally Posted by daythecountrydied21
Lol john I would've looked and seen that and asked eventually, but common consensus on here seemed to be saying the the pump would flow either way...Did seem weird to me but I figured hey w/e sure.

While you're in here, do you have any thoughts on the last 2 diagrams posted as which would be the better? Guess I'll get under my car when i get home and see what way the coolants flowing so I can possibly adjust.
meh. common consensus around here dont do much for me. do the best you can tennpenn is doing fine for you and he has the patience. as for me i am out of it today...

by the way if the frickin' pump would work backwards there would have never been a TSB for the Redlines that were wired backwards. Flow is 5 gph correct direction. wrong direction is 3 gph or less.

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Originally Posted by qwikredline
meh. common consensus around here dont do much for me. do the best you can tennpenn is doing fine for you and he has the patience. as for me i am out of it today...

by the way if the frickin' pump would work backwards there would have never been a TSB for the Redlines that were wired backwards. Flow is 5 gph correct direction. wrong direction is 3 gph or less.
I thought that was the reasoning behind the pumps being dead. Like I said people were saying it would work so I trusted it lol. Gotta have to look into things myself AND ask from now on.. haha.
From what you're saying I assume that tennpenn is correct in his telling me what flow path to have?
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Originally Posted by daythecountrydied21
is this what you're saying tenn?

do your setup exactly like this. if you add another heat exchanger, put it after the stock one and before the ice box. you've got the right idea.

and i'm not known for patience, qwik...
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Mounted my tank using zip ties cause the bracket in the pics is hard as hell to mount with, do you guys think it's a good spot and will hold up, and the zip ties not melt or something?
There is a bit of play in the tanks movement but I'll be drilling a hole in one of those circles on the bracket which should all but eliminate it, and move it more flush to the side of the bay also. Any thoughts/suggestions?





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Were you able to put any sealant on the inside of those fittings?
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what do you mean?
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The fittings on the bottom of the tank, where the hoses would run to...

if you werent able to get any adhesive sealant on the inside of the tank, where the fittings are.. your going to have leaks.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
The fittings on the bottom of the tank, where the hoses would run to...

if you werent able to get any adhesive sealant on the inside of the tank, where the fittings are.. your going to have leaks.
I think there is sealant where the bolt like threaded in, ralli made it for me but yeah i think so.
If i plug the ports and put some water in it and see if it leaks it would be a good test right?
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Originally Posted by daythecountrydied21
I think there is sealant where the bolt like threaded in, ralli made it for me but yeah i think so.
If i plug the ports and put some water in it and see if it leaks it would be a good test right?
That is one way but the system will be pressurized may conclude something different when it has pressure in the systems.


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