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Eaton M62 Oil fill amount Misconception

Old 07-16-2010, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction View Post
sure you can, just don't bust out like you discovered some secret and instantly state that everyone is wrong form what they've been doing just because you are going by a single resource of information that takes into affect, a singular setup. people are spinning these blowers 50% faster than from the factory and that changes alot of dynamics. but instead of you saying "hey check this info out" you busted out just stating everyone is wrong except that one chart.


Originally Posted by TVS_SS View Post
"dead wrong" even funnier than you think.. thanks for that

and it doesnt take 8oz
.. that is too much!!

Please show me your data proving they die between 100-125k without an oil change. They are designed and tested for 150k miles and pass with flying colors.. How much oil do you think they loose on a 150k mile test?

Never enter a battle of witts unarmed.

This site has way to many people that like to spout thier wrong opinions as facts and mislead the unknowing..

Originally Posted by lnf08ecotec View Post
lol, I may be wrong..but I def. don't think I am.....you def. don't need 2 bottles to change ur s/c oil....If you overfill the snout then you will build minimal boost if any at all....the actual spec 2.5 fl oz. or around 75ml....the 2 bottles eveyone writes about is for an m90 on a grand prix........I have used 1 whole bottle of the s/c oil before and couldn't get my car to build any boost under full throttle.....When I switched s/c's under warranty and we drained my old one that's when we found they come with around 75 ml of oil from factory.....


Originally Posted by TVS_SS View Post
you need to fill it with 100ml or 3.4 oz from a completely drained state.. adding 2.5-3 oz would be typical for an oil plug drain because thats what you remove.

You guys are just adding more "windage" frictional losses into your supercharger. It definately wont stop you from making boost.. but it will overheat your oil and push it past the seals

DONT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE TELLING YOU TO ADD MORE THAN THE AMOUNT I SPECIFIED. This is the exact reason i tell people to leave it alone, cause some people get it in their heads that "if some oil is good, more is better" If you add more, your only hurting yourself.

Let me ask this question, what happens if you put 15 Quarts of oil in your cobalt vs. the 6 that it was designed for?
Originally Posted by TVS_SS View Post
it only gets 100ml (3.4oz) of oil from the factory... thats all it needs for 150,000 miles with no oil changes..

DO NOT FILL UP TO THE HOLE (this leads to very bad things)

this type of misinformation is why i tell everyone to leave it alone!!!!!!

If you recovered 3oz, that is exactly correct, you did not loose any oil
Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP View Post
TVS_SS knows what he's talking about people. I'd listen if I were you.
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Originally Posted by NJBLUESS View Post
This cracks me up, show me 1 document from GMs "Service Information" that gives you a service intervale, part # of the proper oil or procedure for changing it. There are none. That oil part# if for the older 3.8l superchargers, the m62 we have is filled with a synthetic. Eaton doesn't even recommend changing it, as well as GM, hmmm. Also to fill it to the proper level you need to remove the SC and lay it flat on the bench, then fill it to the bottom of the hole, this will be around 3oz, just FYI.
Originally Posted by heartmycobalt View Post
I e-mailed eaton supercharger info and they told me 3.4-3.5oz. I am going to stick to this; many of you have put 6 oz. in and maybe its working fine for you and thats great, but the rep told me 3.4oz. so thats what i'll put in.

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Old 07-16-2010, 10:19 PM
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Well I guess that answers my question lol
So 3.4-4 if you just drained it and need to fill it again and 6oz if its completely dry(not a drop of oil in there, say from baking it in the oven for powdercoat or something)
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoTecDriver View Post
So you trust Zzp over the company that manufactures the supercharger? really? come on....



wrong, you guys are dense......



its not installed yet, but i drained out 3oz!!!!!!!!!
Yes, actually I do. Considering they have probably gone through more blower oil swaps than eaton themselves and run them on their personal cars I think they know their stuff .
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nice kill on the geo metro lol
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Originally Posted by cubaniche View Post
Well I guess that answers my question lol
So 3.4-4 if you just drained it and need to fill it again and 6oz if its completely dry(not a drop of oil in there, say from baking it in the oven for powdercoat or something)
I am watching you lol.
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline View Post
Yes, actually I do. Considering they have probably gone through more blower oil swaps than eaton themselves and run them on their personal cars I think they know their stuff .
6oz is at a dry state, as in baked dry as mebtioned above, eaton taken apart dry etc, Im sorry if I came off as rude, but its like everyone wants to start a fight, when all Im trying to do is provide info, if wrong correct me with evidence, not curse at me...this is my 1st and last technical thread for this site.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:50 PM
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i think its kind of funny that every thread ends up with two people calling eachother names, dont get me wrong i love the fact that i can learn and get entertained at the same time
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Lol I wasn't name calling at all you actually provided valid info from the manufacturer but just sayin a company who goes through how many parts says you'll need a 6oz bottle thats who my moneys on.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline View Post
Lol I wasn't name calling at all you actually provided valid info from the manufacturer but just sayin a company who goes through how many parts says you'll need a 6oz bottle thats who my moneys on.
I was just apologizing in general even to that one guy, and I thank you for you civil response.
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Originally Posted by K0ba1t 5s View Post
i think its kind of funny that every thread ends up with two people calling eachother names, dont get me wrong i love the fact that i can learn and get entertained at the same time
thats why I didnt create an account here till 2010, and I have been a balt/g5 owner since 2006....Im going back to reading and watching forget this noise.
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for those that are doubting the source or poster of this information, you have obviously never performed any maintenece or modifications to the m62


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thank you sir^
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i have also replaced all the seal and bearings after a kid in a redline put 8 oz in his ghetto eaton with a 2.5" on it.
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I retract after further researching lol. I guess zzp clears theirs completely out before they put new oil in.
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lol like I said I pulled out 3 oz's with a pump.

and that would make sense if zzp is rebuilding them or painting they would remove every drop.
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline View Post
zzp says you need 6......
ZZP is ******* retarted.

Maybe a complete overhaul.. Just a "flush and fill".. Absolutely not.
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ZZP is ******* retarded? Nah. Leave details out, yeah.
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no more fighting! the answer is in post one /thread
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline View Post
ZZP is ******* retarded? Nah. Leave details out, yeah.
Well, I must say that is a pretty specific detail to leave out.. That's almost as bad as adding 9 quarts of oil to your motor.. Lol, not as bad.. But it is very harmful to the SC. I feel bad for anyone who actually added 6oz to their Eaton on account of ZZP's information.

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no more fighting! the answer is in post one /thread
X2. This should be a sticky!
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maybe edit out a couple "******* retards" and such lmao
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Originally Posted by JapEatr View Post
for those that are doubting the source or poster of this information, you have obviously never performed any maintenece or modifications to the m62
don't think anyone is doubting how much is in there, we're just asking the question, is 6 possibly better than the 3 or whatever?

just saying "but someone said so" without knowing the reasoning behind it, is dumb.
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it makes me wonder if both sprokets are getting lubed with just 3oz in them. since its at a angle? i guess since one sporket is, then other one well to. since they both touch each other it would have to.
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Saving this thred for first S/C oil change lol
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