2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

To Go 2.6" Pulley Or Not?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 08:39 PM
  #51  
bboyfreeflow's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-08-08
Posts: 711
Likes: 0
From: Boston
a 2.6 is over spinning/working the supercharger..but give or take it is what it is.. as a member on here posted... he was replacing his blower every 30,000 miles with a 2.5 or 2.6 cuz ur over spinning the blower.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 08:47 PM
  #52  
ecot3c inside's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: 03-31-10
Posts: 4,212
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted by bboyfreeflow
a 2.6 is over spinning/working the supercharger..but give or take it is what it is.. as a member on here posted... he was replacing his blower every 30,000 miles with a 2.5 or 2.6 cuz ur over spinning the blower.
your wrong.. obviously you have to taper down the rev limiter, your not over spinning it, but rather getting it to where you want it to be FASTER.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 09:59 PM
  #53  
ebristol's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 04-15-07
Posts: 5,457
Likes: 3
From: WI
The M62 reaches Peak efficiency at 14,000 rpms. Max efficiency is 16,000. Too far past that and it is getting over spun and is producing more heat and causing more parasitic hp loss then extra power.

The size of the sc pulley determine where in the RPM range the blower hits those efficiency points.



Most people say go with a 2.8" because it will hit 16,000 blower RPMs just after 7k. A 2.6" pulley hits 16,000 blower RPMs at 6500 engine rpms. An M62 will still make HP past 16,000 but not very efficiently.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 10:17 PM
  #54  
Erick161's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-14-09
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 0
From: New Port Richey, Florida
Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Ya I was really surprised it doesn't slip. But from what I read it seemed to be a 50/50 chance of it slipping. You slip with a 2.8"? That doesn't seem right, even with humidity.
Yeah, well i get a screeching belt sound sometimes around 6500-7000rpm...ONLY when its humid/been raining out...At least thats all i noticed. But yeah, its a real GM stage 2 belt from CED.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 12:42 AM
  #55  
G11's Avatar
G11
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: 12-21-09
Posts: 1,950
Likes: 0
From: Kaysville UT
Originally Posted by Erick161
I see you have a TVS...are we talking about that or the M62?
i had a 2.6 on my m62 too that is what i was refering too lol but good eye!
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 12:47 AM
  #56  
Cefaln452's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 05-20-08
Posts: 5,601
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati
you have to make sure your tune is on point, other wise the motor will say **** you and blow #1 and #4 ringlands.... ask me how I know.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 12:54 AM
  #57  
Erick161's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-14-09
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 0
From: New Port Richey, Florida
Originally Posted by Cefaln452
you have to make sure your tune is on point, other wise the motor will say **** you and blow #1 and #4 ringlands.... ask me how I know.
Yeah, well i def dont have a tuner that i personally can trust...just one that has been recommended to me.

Originally Posted by G11
i had a 2.6 on my m62 too that is what i was refering too lol but good eye!
haha thanks. Figured that was the case, but just wanted to check!
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 10:12 AM
  #58  
bboyfreeflow's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-08-08
Posts: 711
Likes: 0
From: Boston
okay... anything below 2.7 ur over spinning the blower dude. jsut be realistic.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 10:49 AM
  #59  
ebristol's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 04-15-07
Posts: 5,457
Likes: 3
From: WI
Originally Posted by bboyfreeflow
okay... anything below 2.7 ur over spinning the blower dude. jsut be realistic.
That plain statement is not necessarily true.

You could run a 2.6" pulley and never "over spin" the blower if you shift at 6500. Just because your rev limiter is set at 7,000rpms does not mean you have to wait that long to ****.

You guys really need to get your sh*t straight. Stop regurgitating what you have heard other people regurgitate and take the time to understand what you are talking about it.

Technically, you can "over spin" the M62 on a 2.9" if you decided to rev out to 7300rpms.

We have already established that the LSJ makes Peak HP around 6500rpms. The only reason to rev past that would be to start at a higher RPM in the next gear. Anything after 6500rpms and the power is falling off.

Do you guys not understand what I am talking about?
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 11:45 AM
  #60  
Bluelightning's Avatar
Thread Starter
Got Bewst?
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: 03-16-10
Posts: 10,948
Likes: 33
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
So ebristol going to the track would you recommend shifting at 6500 rpm?
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 11:56 AM
  #61  
Staged07SS's Avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: 12-30-07
Posts: 14,079
Likes: 197
From: NEPA
Originally Posted by ebristol
That plain statement is not necessarily true.

You could run a 2.6" pulley and never "over spin" the blower if you shift at 6500. Just because your rev limiter is set at 7,000rpms does not mean you have to wait that long to ****.

You guys really need to get your sh*t straight. Stop regurgitating what you have heard other people regurgitate and take the time to understand what you are talking about it.

Technically, you can "over spin" the M62 on a 2.9" if you decided to rev out to 7300rpms.

We have already established that the LSJ makes Peak HP around 6500rpms. The only reason to rev past that would be to start at a higher RPM in the next gear. Anything after 6500rpms and the power is falling off.

Do you guys not understand what I am talking about?
Listen to this guy.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 12:09 PM
  #62  
Bika's Avatar
Fail Less.
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 12-08-05
Posts: 5,677
Likes: 1
From: Brookfield
Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
You have to grind the oversize tensioner pulley to fit but if it's not slipping then don't worry. I ran a 2.6 with no other mods than 60's for over a year no problem.
Proof that pulleys dont chunk engines. It's all about the t00n

And heres some advice. When you have a knowledgable veteran posting dyno sheets and trying to drop some knowledge, listen
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 12:20 PM
  #63  
Chevycobaltss3's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: 10-24-08
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 1
From: Vine Grove Kentucky
I ran a 2.6 and 60s and a h.e for one year as well no issues........ I dont recommend that but it was a testing stage lol
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 01:26 PM
  #64  
WickedSS2005's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-02-05
Posts: 8,725
Likes: 2
From: West Carrollton (Dayton), OH
For the record, my ZZP 2.6 pulley on the M62 didn't need grinding when I had that pulley
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 01:36 PM
  #65  
Erick161's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-14-09
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 0
From: New Port Richey, Florida
Originally Posted by ebristol
That plain statement is not necessarily true.

You could run a 2.6" pulley and never "over spin" the blower if you shift at 6500. Just because your rev limiter is set at 7,000rpms does not mean you have to wait that long to ****.

You guys really need to get your sh*t straight. Stop regurgitating what you have heard other people regurgitate and take the time to understand what you are talking about it.

Technically, you can "over spin" the M62 on a 2.9" if you decided to rev out to 7300rpms.

We have already established that the LSJ makes Peak HP around 6500rpms. The only reason to rev past that would be to start at a higher RPM in the next gear. Anything after 6500rpms and the power is falling off.

Do you guys not understand what I am talking about?
I used to be one of those "people". My friend still regurgitates it to me when i tell him im planning on pullying down some more. After doing more research, i have to agree with you (obviously). I think most people were just going under the idea you'd still be shifting at 7000-7400rpm, in which case...yeah...overspinning it.

However, by shifting where the stock limiter is, you're fine. Obviously need the supporting mods (meth seems to be a consistent item, or E85 for you lucky *****!).
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 01:48 PM
  #66  
Staged07SS's Avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: 12-30-07
Posts: 14,079
Likes: 197
From: NEPA
Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
For the record, my ZZP 2.6 pulley on the M62 didn't need grinding when I had that pulley
I hear that the ZZP 2.6" pulley clears the snout.

I'm glad you have confirmed it.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 01:51 PM
  #67  
WickedSS2005's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-02-05
Posts: 8,725
Likes: 2
From: West Carrollton (Dayton), OH
Originally Posted by bboyfreeflow
okay... anything below 2.7 ur over spinning the blower dude. jsut be realistic.
Over spinning at 7k+. How long are you holding the motor at 7k+ and how often do you go 7k+??? Hmm?? I was about to make a post stating the same thing as Ebristol. He knows this from learning from us veterans that learned from eachother. He is a valuable member and YOU need to listen to what he has posted as I back it up from personal knowledge and experience. Too many of the members that have joined in the last 4 years (since the LNF basically) are just spitting up misinformation. Do some thinking. And while your at it, answer my first question about how long/often you at at 7k+RPM..... It DOESN'T MATTER. The TUNE does....

This is why I don't frequent this forum as much as I used to. No one listens to someone who actually knows wtf they are saying......



Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I hear that the ZZP 2.6" pulley clears the snout.

I'm glad you have confirmed it.
No problem man. Honestly, if you have any questions, look me up on FB and get my cell off that

WickedSS2005


Originally Posted by Bika
Proof that pulleys dont chunk engines. It's all about the t00n

And heres some advice. When you have a knowledgable veteran posting dyno sheets and trying to drop some knowledge, listen
Amen to that

Originally Posted by Bluelightning
So ebristol going to the track would you recommend shifting at 6500 rpm?
Personally, I did my best runs shifting just shy of 7k, drops me back to a better RPM at the next gear
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 01:59 PM
  #68  
Staged07SS's Avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: 12-30-07
Posts: 14,079
Likes: 197
From: NEPA
Originally Posted by WickedSS2005

No problem man. Honestly, if you have any questions, look me up on FB and get my cell off that

WickedSS2005
I appreciate it man. Will do.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 04:01 PM
  #69  
BLue NoTe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 06-12-10
Posts: 793
Likes: 0
From: Little Rock, AR
(Slight jack warning) So the stock crank pulley is 6.3"? I picked up a CA overdrive used a few months ago, would a 2.7 on one of those act as a 2.6?
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 07:13 PM
  #70  
WickedSS2005's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 07-02-05
Posts: 8,725
Likes: 2
From: West Carrollton (Dayton), OH
Hypothetically, yes
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 07:39 PM
  #71  
Nighthawk243's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-20-07
Posts: 2,961
Likes: 1
From: Pittsburgh, Pistolvania
Originally Posted by tylerjclance
Germans won't touch my car..
I found one place that will do it but they want 120 euro, which is like... 160 dollars.. to bolt it up
Probably because the number of Cobalts in German are probably easily counted on one hand.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 07:54 PM
  #72  
IonNinja's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-29-05
Posts: 7,915
Likes: 0
From: AZ
So whats better...running a 2.6 @ 6500 or a 2.8 @ 7000 powerwise? Is it just a difference in low end torque?
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 08:05 PM
  #73  
lightningbalt's Avatar
New Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 12-21-09
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Arizona, Peoria
sub. cause i have a 2.6 sitting in my room
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 08:08 PM
  #74  
100% METH's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 01-02-10
Posts: 3,944
Likes: 15
From: Los Angeles
Oy.....:Facepalm:

There needs to be stickies on some of the information posted here.

I was always under the impression that our crank pulley is 6.5".
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 11:50 PM
  #75  
Bluelightning's Avatar
Thread Starter
Got Bewst?
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: 03-16-10
Posts: 10,948
Likes: 33
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Originally Posted by lightningbalt
sub. cause i have a 2.6 sitting in my room
Bolt it up. You will love it! If you have meth or running E that is. When I bolted up my long tube and 2.5" catback I noticed a drop in low end torque. Well the 2.6" brought it right back up and more. I love 2nd gear. It pulls hard

Last edited by Bluelightning; Aug 11, 2011 at 11:57 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:30 AM.